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  • Could have worked out worse for him on his debut. 7-137 at the age of 18.

    It is totally inevitable that things will go badly wrong for him from time to time. But for now he looks like a real find and congratulations to the management for taking a chance with him. If you listened to Nasser after the last Test he wouldn't have played him here but this was exactly the right time to do so with nothing to lose. 
  • edited December 2022
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Leuth said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    A lot has been made about Bazball with the bat but this will be the 19th consecutive innings we will have taken all 10 wickets.  Its not really a bowling attack for the ages either is it?
    Anderson, Robinson and Wood are generational bowlers
    Potts, Jacks and Overton aren't..

    Broad got a hatful in the summer as well mind.

    Robinson isn't a generational bowler, arguably wouldn't get in England's best team.
    This was a decent post until the edit...Robinson is an absolute gun, first-choice quick now. Closest thing to McGrath we've had in ages
  • We are trying to win in inside 20 overs

    21-0 off 2
  • Duckett is honestly playing it like a T20
  • Leuth said:
    Duckett is honestly playing it like a T20
    He's not the only one!

    34-0 off 3 

    Crawley 19* (11)
    Duckett 15* (7)
  • Is this reckless, adventurous or taking the mick ??

     Remember, its Test cricket and there are still TWO full days left. No rain around and the boat's not leaving in 2 hours either. 
  • I think Stokes and Baz have dared them to finish it off tonight. Almost humorously, like 'go on, bet you can't'
  • Is this reckless, adventurous or taking the mick ??

     Remember, its Test cricket and there are still TWO full days left. No rain around and the boat's not leaving in 2 hours either. 

    It's designed to put pressure on the opposition and make them change their field. They cannot attack while we are plundering boundaries and have had to change from close fielders and catchers to sweepers so there will be more gaps now for the ones and twos. 
  • edited December 2022
    Leuth said:
    Ahmed is gonna be a gem. Just important not to rush him 
    Didn't rush him enough today!
    I think Stokes held him back because he knows Ahmed leaks runs & didnt want the top order taking advantage & getting a big lead. 

    Once we had control the lower order basically tried to hit him over the top & got caught with top edges & mis-timed shots.
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  • Is this reckless, adventurous or taking the mick ??

     Remember, its Test cricket and there are still TWO full days left. No rain around and the boat's not leaving in 2 hours either. 

    It's designed to put pressure on the opposition and make them change their field. They cannot attack while we are plundering boundaries and have had to change from close fielders and catchers to sweepers so there will be more gaps now for the ones and twos. 
    Good thinking. 
  • Leuth said:
    I think Stokes and Baz have dared them to finish it off tonight. Almost humorously, like 'go on, bet you can't'
    And if anyone likes a bet it's McCullum. He has his own racehorse syndicate with, at the last count, 18 horses in his stable
  • If we needed just 10 or 15 runs to win tonight & the meter readings are the same as previous days do you think the umpires will take them off ?

    What about the extra 30 mins to win a match/ finish an innings  ? 
  • Leuth said:
    I think Stokes and Baz have dared them to finish it off tonight. Almost humorously, like 'go on, bet you can't'
    And if anyone likes a bet it's McCullum. He has his own racehorse syndicate with, at the last count, 18 horses in his stable
    Yeah there's probably money on this
  • If we needed just 10 or 15 runs to win tonight & the meter readings are the same as previous days do you think the umpires will take them off ?

    What about the extra 30 mins to win a match/ finish an innings  ? 
    Depends how much Pakistan want the game to finish today - if they carry on with the spinners the Umpires will be less reluctant to take them off for bad light
  • And to think we still have Brook & Stokes to come if we really wanted to finish it off quickly. 
  • How often do we get a PP as good as 58-0 in T20?
  • If we needed just 10 or 15 runs to win tonight & the meter readings are the same as previous days do you think the umpires will take them off ?

    What about the extra 30 mins to win a match/ finish an innings  ? 
    Thanks Nass.
  • Leuth said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Leuth said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    A lot has been made about Bazball with the bat but this will be the 19th consecutive innings we will have taken all 10 wickets.  Its not really a bowling attack for the ages either is it?
    Anderson, Robinson and Wood are generational bowlers
    Potts, Jacks and Overton aren't..

    Broad got a hatful in the summer as well mind.

    Robinson isn't a generational bowler, arguably wouldn't get in England's best team.
    This was a decent post until the edit...Robinson is an absolute gun, first-choice quick now. Closest thing to McGrath we've had in ages
    All things being equal, which admittedly they never are, you would be foolish to leave out Anderson or Broad.  Which people have amlnd been made to look foolish.  Add in Wood and dare I say Archer.  If Stokes can bowl you might only need 3 of the above.

    Robinson is a very good bowler but certainly not generational.
  • Leuth said:
    Leuth said:
    I think Stokes and Baz have dared them to finish it off tonight. Almost humorously, like 'go on, bet you can't'
    And if anyone likes a bet it's McCullum. He has his own racehorse syndicate with, at the last count, 18 horses in his stable
    Yeah there's probably money on this
    or at the very least, waiter duties at the team dinner
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  • edited December 2022
    I can't help thinking that the one bloke who hasn't, perhaps, had the true recognition he deserves is Duckett. He now has in the series 304 runs at an average of 60.80 and that hasn't been as a result of one big innings. The Ashes will be the next Test but when was the last time that we had someone who looked as comfortable as he has opening? 
  • I can't help thinking that the one bloke who hasn't, perhaps, had the true recognition he deserves it Duckett. He now has in the series 304 runs at an average of 60.80 and that hasn't been as a result of one big innings. The Ashes will be the next Test but when was the last time that we had someone who looked as comfortable as he has opening? 
    He's been great. Will definitely get the whole Ashes series unless Starc and chums expose a weakness against high pace
  • Leuth said:
    Just flashed up the bowling scorecard. Almost literally a three-man attack. Will it be enough?
    No.
  • Leuth said:
    I can't help thinking that the one bloke who hasn't, perhaps, had the true recognition he deserves it Duckett. He now has in the series 304 runs at an average of 60.80 and that hasn't been as a result of one big innings. The Ashes will be the next Test but when was the last time that we had someone who looked as comfortable as he has opening? 
    He's been great. Will definitely get the whole Ashes series unless Starc and chums expose a weakness against high pace
    Good point Atherton has just made about seeing him against NZ in the interim 
  • Athers pointing out that NZ is actually the next Test, and that a swerve to Jennings or Bairstow is still possible if their pacers trouble him
  • After you Claude
  • Don't think this will finish tonight unless the umpires grant the extra half hour. 
  • The one thing that England are doing in playing the way they do now is adding to the argument that Test matches should be of four day duration although we might only need three here
  • Could have worked out worse for him on his debut. 7-137 at the age of 18.

    It is totally inevitable that things will go badly wrong for him from time to time. But for now he looks like a real find and congratulations to the management for taking a chance with him. If you listened to Nasser after the last Test he wouldn't have played him here but this was exactly the right time to do so with nothing to lose. 
    Amazing debut.
  • Leuth said:
    Athers pointing out that NZ is actually the next Test, and that a swerve to Jennings or Bairstow is still possible if their pacers trouble him
    I think Jennings would only play in the sub continent.  Averages over 40, against less than 20 elsewhere.  Pope to open and YJB back is probably the next cab off the rank.
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