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  • MrOneLung said:
    Give it Stokes/Broad 
    I would be tempted to ask Broad to fill the role for the next two to three years. If he can’t play every Test, he should be travelling and play captain/coach from the pavilion.

    Pick someone to be his vice who will fill in when he can’t play and eventually take the role full time in a couple of years.


    Might be unconventional but I don’t trust them throwing it immediately to a Stokes or Bairstow. Could Foakes be future captain material from behind the stumps?

    I've been disappointed with Foakes in this series with bat and ball. He deserves a run but if he doesn't improve in both disciplines then he will be under pressure. The other aspect is that it is incredibly hard to keep and captain in Test cricket. You are, potentially, having to concentrate for 500 balls plus and six hours in a day and gee up your team that there us little enough respite let alone make vital decisions that influence the game. The biggest example of that is Tim Paine ridiculously wasting a review that cost them the Ashes.
    This series was foakes first cricket since his injury that ruled him out of most of last season. It'll take him a while to get back to his best as it did Stokes after his break from cricket. He deserves a home summer to try and cement his spot. Agree he need to do better. If he doesn't then Billings has to come in.
  • MrOneLung said:
    Give it Stokes/Broad 
    I would be tempted to ask Broad to fill the role for the next two to three years. If he can’t play every Test, he should be travelling and play captain/coach from the pavilion.

    Pick someone to be his vice who will fill in when he can’t play and eventually take the role full time in a couple of years.


    Might be unconventional but I don’t trust them throwing it immediately to a Stokes or Bairstow. Could Foakes be future captain material from behind the stumps?

    I've been disappointed with Foakes in this series with bat and ball. He deserves a run but if he doesn't improve in both disciplines then he will be under pressure. The other aspect is that it is incredibly hard to keep and captain in Test cricket. You are, potentially, having to concentrate for 500 balls plus and six hours in a day and gee up your team that there us little enough respite let alone make vital decisions that influence the game. The biggest example of that is Tim Paine ridiculously wasting a review that cost them the Ashes.
    This series was foakes first cricket since his injury that ruled him out of most of last season. It'll take him a while to get back to his best as it did Stokes after his break from cricket. He deserves a home summer to try and cement his spot. Agree he need to do better. If he doesn't then Billings has to come in.
    Or give Bairstow the gloves back, and play an all rounder at 7 like Sam Curran

    Indeed if Stokes was to become captain, it's possible that he'd bowl less, so we might need another bowler
  • Below is an indication of how the CC calendar has changed.

    For the purpose of comparison, this season's fixtures start on 7th April and end on 29th September as opposed to those of 1972 of 10th May and 4th September respectively (they were also of 3 day duration).

    So that's, effectively, 8 weeks at either end of the season and some 8 CC games that batsmen now have to face bowlers in conditions that suit seamers best. And the equivalent number of matches that aren't played in the middle of summer when spinners should have pitches that would help them to hone their game.

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  • Tom Haines really deserves a call up for me. Been great for Sussex for a couple of seasons now. Bowls a bit too if needed. 
  • MrOneLung said:
    Give it Stokes/Broad 
    I would be tempted to ask Broad to fill the role for the next two to three years. If he can’t play every Test, he should be travelling and play captain/coach from the pavilion.

    Pick someone to be his vice who will fill in when he can’t play and eventually take the role full time in a couple of years.


    Might be unconventional but I don’t trust them throwing it immediately to a Stokes or Bairstow. Could Foakes be future captain material from behind the stumps?

    I've been disappointed with Foakes in this series with bat and ball. He deserves a run but if he doesn't improve in both disciplines then he will be under pressure. The other aspect is that it is incredibly hard to keep and captain in Test cricket. You are, potentially, having to concentrate for 500 balls plus and six hours in a day and gee up your team that there us little enough respite let alone make vital decisions that influence the game. The biggest example of that is Tim Paine ridiculously wasting a review that cost them the Ashes.
    This series was foakes first cricket since his injury that ruled him out of most of last season. It'll take him a while to get back to his best as it did Stokes after his break from cricket. He deserves a home summer to try and cement his spot. Agree he need to do better. If he doesn't then Billings has to come in.
    Or give Bairstow the gloves back, and play an all rounder at 7 like Sam Curran

    Indeed if Stokes was to become captain, it's possible that he'd bowl less, so we might need another bowler
    Curran is not good enough to bat 7 , nor is he a test match bowler.  
  • Below is an indication of how the CC calendar has changed.

    For the purpose of comparison, this season's fixtures start on 7th April and end on 29th September as opposed to those of 1972 of 10th May and 4th September respectively (they were also of 3 day duration).

    So that's, effectively, 8 weeks at either end of the season and some 8 CC games that batsmen now have to face bowlers in conditions that suit seamers best. And the equivalent number of matches that aren't played in the middle of summer when spinners should have pitches that would help them to hone their game.

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    12 home games, played at 6 different grounds, and only 4 at Canterbury

    By contrast most of the away fixtures are at the main county ground
  • And prior to this games were played at Blackheath, Gravesend and Gillingham too
  • Back to my old bugbear.......over rates & time lost in the day.

    SA v Bangladesh. 1st day of the 1st Test. Only managed 76.5 overs before bad light stopped play, even though the sun was shining at the time. Problem is not only did they lose 13 overs ( I'm assuming that they will not be made up as they weren't lost due to rain) but now that is the standard for the rest of the Test. As soon as the light meter gets to that same reading then the players will be off.

    I just wonder how many overs will be lost in the whole test now.......40 ? 50 ? 60 ? At least it looks like at least a session, probably nearer 2. 


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  • As it starts at 2am, I 'll given the first innings a miss. And most of the second innings too!
  • Is there a mens odi or t20 Aries against w indies?
  • edited April 2022
    Is there a mens odi or t20 Aries against w indies?
    Think so. My bold prediction is that Holder gets hit for loads of sixes by Moeen in one game but takes four in four in another 
  • Is there a mens odi or t20 Aries against w indies?
    A T20 series in January 2022 if you have a Tardis  ;)
  • Is there a mens odi or t20 Aries against w indies?
    That's pretty specific of the West Indies to limit their opposition to players born between 20 March and 21 April. 
  • Why is Harrison negotiating something that will affect cricket in this country for a decade from 2024 when he is leaving some two years before it comes into effect? Here is the full article in question:

    The ECB is in advanced negotiations for a bumper broadcast deal that means the bulk of international and domestic cricket will remain on Sky Sports until at least 2034.

    Tom Harrison, the chief executive, is expected to leave the governing body within the next few months and is understood to be keen to seal a ten-year deal with Sky Sports, which will begin when the present deal runs out in 2024.

    The deal is designed to protect the broadcasting future of the Hundred, something Harrison believes is part of his legacy, and give some long-term financial security to the ECB at a time when the future value of international bi-lateral cricket is uncertain.

    The present deal, which was signed in 2017 and is worth about £220 million a year, is the ECB’s largest source of revenue. It is not expected that the negotiations will lead to any significant increase to that amount but it will be a significant result for the ECB if they can secure a long-term ten year deal.

    As with the present deal, Sky will share rights to some matches with the BBC, which has the rights to broadcast live four international T20 matches (two men’s and two women’s) and ten matches across the men’s and women’s Hundred, including the finals. It is expected that will stay broadly the same when the new deal is signed, although there is the possibility that the ECB will ask Sky to allow the BBC to broadcast more of the Hundred.

    The one stumbling block for Harrison in these negotiations is that he cannot finalise a new deal until all the counties have agreed to give the ECB and Sky media rights to their grounds and there are on-going discussions with the county chief executives about this.

    Each of the first-class counties own the rights to anything broadcast in their own grounds and their own players who are not centrally contracted by the ECB and will not hand over those rights until they are comfortable with what they will receive in return.

    They will also want to ensure that they can continue to broadcast live streams of any domestic championship, 50 over cup or T20 Blast matches that are not being shown on Sky and have the ability to sign deals with other outlets such as Facebook or YouTube for those matches.


  • How long ago was there more cricket on free-to-air TV in this country than there will be this year? 2005? 
  • Chizz said:
    How long ago was there more cricket on free-to-air TV in this country than there will be this year? 2005? 

    yeah, cant wait for the home Ashes to be free to air again.

    not read the above, but presume it mentions test match cricket being back on terrestrial TV like it was in 2005

  • MrOneLung said:
    Chizz said:
    How long ago was there more cricket on free-to-air TV in this country than there will be this year? 2005? 

    yeah, cant wait for the home Ashes to be free to air again.

    not read the above, but presume it mentions test match cricket being back on terrestrial TV like it was in 2005

    I think 2005 was the last time the phrase "terrestrial tv" was used
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  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61007258

    England vice-captain Ben Stokes says he cannot make any plans for the summer until he has undergone a scan to assess the extent of a knee problem.
    The Durham all-rounder struggled with the issue during England's recent series defeat against West Indies.
    The County Championship starts on Thursday, while England's first Test of the summer against New Zealand is scheduled for the start of June.
    "At the moment, no training until I get these scans," said Stokes.
    Speaking on the Round the Wicket podcast, Stokes added: "Then we find out what is going on, then hopefully can make a plan from there on."
  • Away from England, as if his bowling and captaincy wasn't enough, Pat Cummins has just hit a 14 ball 50 in the IPL, the fastest ever by an Aussie! 

    https://www.cricket.com.au/news/match-report/pat-cummins-kolkata-knight-riders-mumbai-indians-ipl-indian-premier-league-fastest-fifty/2022-04-07
  • Away from England, as if his bowling and captaincy wasn't enough, Pat Cummins has just hit a 14 ball 50 in the IPL, the fastest ever by an Aussie! 

    https://www.cricket.com.au/news/match-report/pat-cummins-kolkata-knight-riders-mumbai-indians-ipl-indian-premier-league-fastest-fifty/2022-04-07
    Watched it live. He equalled the IPL record in doing so and ended up 56 not out off 15 balls. When Cummins came in, KKR were in a spot of trouble at 101-5 off 13.1 and still needing 61 off less than 7 overs. They won with 4 overs to spare and the final over bowled by fellow Aussie, Daniel Sams, went for 35!
  • Shows the shite state that cricket is in that Surrey with 2 of the best young spinners in the country (Virdi and Moriarty) name neither of them in the squad for the championship opener despite both of them being fit and available. Instead opting for 4 seamers plus the allround seam of Ryan Patel and the part time spin of Will Jacks. I know its April but its bad for cricket. how the hell are we expecting to produce top level spinners if the conditions give you a disadvantage if you actually play one let alone 2.
  • Shows the shite state that cricket is in that Surrey with 2 of the best young spinners in the country (Virdi and Moriarty) name neither of them in the squad for the championship opener despite both of them being fit and available. Instead opting for 4 seamers plus the allround seam of Ryan Patel and the part time spin of Will Jacks. I know its April but its bad for cricket. how the hell are we expecting to produce top level spinners if the conditions give you a disadvantage if you actually play one let alone 2.
    That's what happens when you play on the 7th April!

    Rain in the air AND a howling wind, so horrible for the spinners
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    Shows the shite state that cricket is in that Surrey with 2 of the best young spinners in the country (Virdi and Moriarty) name neither of them in the squad for the championship opener despite both of them being fit and available. Instead opting for 4 seamers plus the allround seam of Ryan Patel and the part time spin of Will Jacks. I know its April but its bad for cricket. how the hell are we expecting to produce top level spinners if the conditions give you a disadvantage if you actually play one let alone 2.
    That's what happens when you play on the 7th April!

    Rain in the air AND a howling wind, so horrible for the spinners
    Agree, there is no way you could play one. Its a joke that its so obvious we dont even put one in the squad. Cricket is dead.
  • Shows the shite state that cricket is in that Surrey with 2 of the best young spinners in the country (Virdi and Moriarty) name neither of them in the squad for the championship opener despite both of them being fit and available. Instead opting for 4 seamers plus the allround seam of Ryan Patel and the part time spin of Will Jacks. I know its April but its bad for cricket. how the hell are we expecting to produce top level spinners if the conditions give you a disadvantage if you actually play one let alone 2.
    Its totally ridiculous isn't it ...this is no time to play cricket..nobody gets anything from it all ( apart from broken fingers) ...and I beg the question are there any spectators? 
  • Haines already has a fifty, and while it's a Div 2 fifty, it's against Notts. You can't tell me Lees is a better player than him
  • Sussex also fielding a 17 y/o spinner, so not sure what Surrey's excuse is. (Notts' young spinner already bowling too) 
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