I mean it's far from a given that Derby WON'T still go under. Things are going (relatively) well on that front for them currently but the EFL have bent over backwards to give them extra chances - we can't assume we'd have been given the same.
Plus Derby have the advantage of an owner who is not an incorrigible, stubborn idiot with unrealistic expectations of value that would skew the entire process.
Each to their own. I personally think that like Derby now we wouldn’t have gone under. Obviously it would have been a torrid time for the club … but that wasn’t the question.
As I’ve repeated I’m not a fan of the personality but I genuinely hope he makes a HUGE success of us - I just don’t think he will.
Derby are on life support. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do go under. Not the best of clubs to make a comparison with imo.
Your opinion that he won’t make a huge success of running us so far is valid. I think we have to give him and Jackson this summer to sort it out. This season was only TS’ first full season in running us. Questions remain over his refusal to hire a full time CEO, but if we have a good summer in the transfer market, then maybe we can be challenging. It’s a big ask currently though
The reason we are doomed is not that TS is an idiot (he clearly isn't) or malicious (he seems very decent) or that he is running another business in the USA (not impossible) or that he knows little about professional football (he can get decent advice).
In my view, the problem looks like ( I have no inside information) that he is micro-managing the football side together with his son and they are not qualified to do so which is damaging performances and frustrating everyone else at the club.
Why is the owner interviewed after the Fraser signing to tell us how he was target and how has the right attributes etc ? - surely this should be the manager of the first team? Why did we sign big Ronnie Schwartz? Why is the owner commenting on the intensity levels of training at Sparrows Lane? Why is he even at Sparrows Lane on a regular basis? Why did he fall out with Nigel Adkins who was so nice?
I am just hoping the persistence with 3-5-2 is entirely Jackson's personal obsession and he is not being directed from above.
The reason we are doomed is not that TS is an idiot (he clearly isn't) or malicious (he seems very decent) or that he is running another business in the USA (not impossible) or that he knows little about professional football (he can get decent advice).
In my view, the problem looks like ( I have no inside information) that he is micro-managing the football side together with his son and they are not qualified to do so which is damaging performances and frustrating everyone else at the club.
Why is the owner interviewed after the Fraser signing to tell us how he was target and how has the right attributes etc ? - surely this should be the manager of the first team? Why did we sign big Ronnie Schwartz? Why is the owner commenting on the intensity levels of training at Sparrows Lane? Why is he even at Sparrows Lane on a regular basis? Why did he fall out with Nigel Adkins who was so nice?
I am just hoping the persistence with 3-5-2 is entirely Jackson's personal obsession and he is not being directed from above.
Jackson said himself in a post match interview recently, that he could change formation but he doesn't want to lose all the work they've put in already to the 3-5-2.
Thomas saved the club. Thomas has made a right mess of this season. Thomas is saying things that suggest he might do the same next season - like employing his totally inexperienced son as part of the recruitment team. Thomas is a decent human. Thomas needs some CEO football experience to help run the club.
All these statements are true, imo.
As has increasingly been the case in life in general lately, questioning something is greeted with calls of lunacy, to get back in your box. ‘You’ve never run a football club, so shut up’.
This idea that the fans should keep quiet and carry on because they haven’t pumped £millions in is bullshit. Thomas is fronting up and that should be applauded. But he’s also got broad enough shoulders to take some criticism for what has been an abject season.
Yes there wouldn’t be any negativity if we were top….because he would’ve got the infrastructure right!
It is perfectly acceptable and indeed healthy to question things. We don’t seem to do that enough in all walks of life anymore. Instead sleep walking into ‘Keep your head down and move on’.
I wish Thomas all the best. But he can take the rough with the smooth.
Each to their own. I personally think that like Derby now we wouldn’t have gone under. Obviously it would have been a torrid time for the club … but that wasn’t the question.
As I’ve repeated I’m not a fan of the personality but I genuinely hope he makes a HUGE success of us - I just don’t think he will.
I think you must have told us approaching 100 times. I think everyone must know your views.
I was responding to comment I was tagged in
Because you gave someone's opinion that Sandgaard is a good thing a shitty LOL. You're entitled to express your opinion as much as you want but let's not pretend.
The reason we are doomed is not that TS is an idiot (he clearly isn't) or malicious (he seems very decent) or that he is running another business in the USA (not impossible) or that he knows little about professional football (he can get decent advice).
In my view, the problem looks like ( I have no inside information) that he is micro-managing the football side together with his son and they are not qualified to do so which is damaging performances and frustrating everyone else at the club.
Why is the owner interviewed after the Fraser signing to tell us how he was target and how has the right attributes etc ? - surely this should be the manager of the first team? Why did we sign big Ronnie Schwartz? Why is the owner commenting on the intensity levels of training at Sparrows Lane? Why is he even at Sparrows Lane on a regular basis? Why did he fall out with Nigel Adkins who was so nice?
I am just hoping the persistence with 3-5-2 is entirely Jackson's personal obsession and he is not being directed from above.
We are not doomed and he is not micro managing the football side. Like any decent owner he has a genuine interest in what is going on and how his money is being spent. His son is highly qualified in the role he is undertaking.
He makes himself available to fans and reporters which is highly desirable in an owner IMO. Unfortunately for you this means he is asked questions and he answers them. He is often at Sparrows Lane as getting Cat1 is key to the future of our club. He fell out with Adkins because he kept losing. Adkins was frustrated with TS because we did not recruit quick enough. TS has since got rid of the ‘football expert’ he appointed to oversee this.
Your comment about formation is very disrespectful of JJ and I am quite shocked you think so poorly of him.
This idea that the fans should keep quiet and carry on because they haven’t pumped £millions in is bullshit. Thomas is fronting up and that should be applauded. But he’s also got broad enough shoulders to take some criticism for what has been an abject season.
I don't think anyone expects the fans to `keep quiet' but do we really need to see the SAME posters posting the SAME criticisms EVERY SINGLE DAY? I mean come on for christs sake. Theres enough shit happening in the world atm yet we've got a group of around 10-15 people on here that really do seem to love the sound of their own moaning voices...round and round and round they go. Its depressing, puts others off posting, and is detrimental to the forum as a whole. I think a growing number of us are getting sick to the back teeth of it tbh.
Each to their own. I personally think that like Derby now we wouldn’t have gone under. Obviously it would have been a torrid time for the club … but that wasn’t the question.
As I’ve repeated I’m not a fan of the personality but I genuinely hope he makes a HUGE success of us - I just don’t think he will.
This idea that the fans should keep quiet and carry on because they haven’t pumped £millions in is bullshit. Thomas is fronting up and that should be applauded. But he’s also got broad enough shoulders to take some criticism for what has been an abject season.
I don't think anyone expects the fans to `keep quiet' but do we really need to see the SAME posters posting the SAME criticisms EVERY SINGLE DAY? I mean come on for christs sake. Theres enough shit happening in the world atm yet we've got a group of around 10-15 people on here that really do seem to love the sound of their own moaning voices...round and round and round they go. Its depressing, puts others off posting, and is detrimental to the forum as a whole. I think a growing number of us are getting sick to the back teeth of it tbh.
I think your issue is with the internet. And I agree. But this is a forum about Charlton and this is a thread within that forum about TS’s recent musings about the club. It’s pretty understandable that you’re going to find critique (and support, I should add) on here. And I’d seriously question the motivation of anyone who is ‘put off posting’ an opinion because of a few moaners.
This idea that the fans should keep quiet and carry on because they haven’t pumped £millions in is bullshit. Thomas is fronting up and that should be applauded. But he’s also got broad enough shoulders to take some criticism for what has been an abject season.
I don't think anyone expects the fans to `keep quiet' but do we really need to see the SAME posters posting the SAME criticisms EVERY SINGLE DAY? I mean come on for christs sake. Theres enough shit happening in the world atm yet we've got a group of around 10-15 people on here that really do seem to love the sound of their own moaning voices...round and round and round they go. Its depressing, puts others off posting, and is detrimental to the forum as a whole. I think a growing number of us are getting sick to the back teeth of it tbh.
I think your issue is with the internet. And I agree. But this is a forum about Charlton and this is a thread within that forum about TS’s recent musings about the club. It’s pretty understandable that you’re going to find critique (and support, I should add) on here. And I’d seriously question the motivation of anyone who is ‘put off posting’ an opinion because of a few moaners.
And you've totally ignored my point about the SAME moaning from the SAME people EVERY SINGLE DAY.
Redrobo - you say that TS's son is highly qualified for his job at CAFC - why from what I have read he played for Enfield for a short time, got bored and went to work for TS
Each to their own. I personally think that like Derby now we wouldn’t have gone under. Obviously it would have been a torrid time for the club … but that wasn’t the question.
As I’ve repeated I’m not a fan of the personality but I genuinely hope he makes a HUGE success of us - I just don’t think he will.
I think you must have told us approaching 100 times. I think everyone must know your views.
Did I mention what I think about Albie Morgan?,,,,,, oh no! Wrong thread. I’ll leave it there!😂. All joking apart, TS has shown nothing but good will, leave the bloke to do what he’s trying to achieve, if it doesn’t work out, hey presto!!! We have another thread. Our biggest problems are on the pitch IMO.
The reason we are doomed is not that TS is an idiot (he clearly isn't) or malicious (he seems very decent) or that he is running another business in the USA (not impossible) or that he knows little about professional football (he can get decent advice).
In my view, the problem looks like ( I have no inside information) that he is micro-managing the football side together with his son and they are not qualified to do so which is damaging performances and frustrating everyone else at the club.
Why is the owner interviewed after the Fraser signing to tell us how he was target and how has the right attributes etc ? - surely this should be the manager of the first team? Why did we sign big Ronnie Schwartz? Why is the owner commenting on the intensity levels of training at Sparrows Lane? Why is he even at Sparrows Lane on a regular basis? Why did he fall out with Nigel Adkins who was so nice?
I am just hoping the persistence with 3-5-2 is entirely Jackson's personal obsession and he is not being directed from above.
We are not doomed and he is not micro managing the football side. Like any decent owner he has a genuine interest in what is going on and how his money is being spent. His son is highly qualified in the role he is undertaking.
He makes himself available to fans and reporters which is highly desirable in an owner IMO. Unfortunately for you this means he is asked questions and he answers them. He is often at Sparrows Lane as getting Cat1 is key to the future of our club. He fell out with Adkins because he kept losing. Adkins was frustrated with TS because we did not recruit quick enough. TS has since got rid of the ‘football expert’ he appointed to oversee this.
Your comment about formation is very disrespectful of JJ and I am quite shocked you think so poorly of him.
Sorry you took my speculation to heart and as I explained in my post I have no objection to TS per se and certainly not to him answering questions. Why should I?
My impression is he really enjoys the attention of being in the media spotlight.
You may have more information about his son's professional qualifications and inside information to disprove my micro management theory. If so, please enlighten us. Is MS just a data analyst or is he his father's 'eyes and ears in the club' too? These are two very different roles and may be mutually incompatible.
If Thomas Driesen was installed as a club spy for Roland when Powell was in charge, people would have been rightly furious.
No offence or disrespect intended to you or Jackson. I was really enthusiastic when he was appointed and had faith in him as a manager but something is clearly dysfunctional given the budget we have.
I would be delighted to know the truth, or even hear a better theory, to explain our continual abject performances, Jackson's personality change and the inexplicable insistence on repeating the same failed approach every match.
This idea that the fans should keep quiet and carry on because they haven’t pumped £millions in is bullshit. Thomas is fronting up and that should be applauded. But he’s also got broad enough shoulders to take some criticism for what has been an abject season.
I don't think anyone expects the fans to `keep quiet' but do we really need to see the SAME posters posting the SAME criticisms EVERY SINGLE DAY? I mean come on for christs sake. Theres enough shit happening in the world atm yet we've got a group of around 10-15 people on here that really do seem to love the sound of their own moaning voices...round and round and round they go. Its depressing, puts others off posting, and is detrimental to the forum as a whole. I think a growing number of us are getting sick to the back teeth of it tbh.
I think your issue is with the internet. And I agree. But this is a forum about Charlton and this is a thread within that forum about TS’s recent musings about the club. It’s pretty understandable that you’re going to find critique (and support, I should add) on here. And I’d seriously question the motivation of anyone who is ‘put off posting’ an opinion because of a few moaners.
And you've totally ignored my point about the SAME moaning from the SAME people EVERY SINGLE DAY.
In the spirit of fairness that should surely be the same DISCUSSION from the same people every day. I get that you are fed up with the arguments on loop but BOTH sides are going over old ground here.
Each to their own. I personally think that like Derby now we wouldn’t have gone under. Obviously it would have been a torrid time for the club … but that wasn’t the question.
As I’ve repeated I’m not a fan of the personality but I genuinely hope he makes a HUGE success of us - I just don’t think he will.
I think you must have told us approaching 100 times. I think everyone must know your views.
I was responding to comment I was tagged in
Because you gave someone's opinion that Sandgaard is a good thing a shitty LOL. You're entitled to express your opinion as much as you want but let's not pretend.
I really wish there was a shitty LOL button, I can never tell if I’ve been really funny or someone doesn’t like my comment. I think I’m just funny and have a great sense of humour!!!, must put that on my plenty of fish bio!!.😜
Each to their own. I personally think that like Derby now we wouldn’t have gone under. Obviously it would have been a torrid time for the club … but that wasn’t the question.
As I’ve repeated I’m not a fan of the personality but I genuinely hope he makes a HUGE success of us - I just don’t think he will.
I think you must have told us approaching 100 times. I think everyone must know your views.
I was responding to comment I was tagged in
Because you gave someone's opinion that Sandgaard is a good thing a shitty LOL. You're entitled to express your opinion as much as you want but let's not pretend.
I really wish there was a shitty LOL button, I can never tell if I’ve been really funny or someone doesn’t like my comment. I think I’m just funny and have a great sense of humour!!!, must put that on my plenty of fish bio!!.😜
You're right, there should be branching paths on the LOL button for 'I think this is genuinely funny', 'I disagree, am not capable of properly explaining why but want you to know anyway' and 'I wish I could both Like and LOL this'. It's a complicated thing LOLing.
This idea that the fans should keep quiet and carry on because they haven’t pumped £millions in is bullshit. Thomas is fronting up and that should be applauded. But he’s also got broad enough shoulders to take some criticism for what has been an abject season.
I don't think anyone expects the fans to `keep quiet' but do we really need to see the SAME posters posting the SAME criticisms EVERY SINGLE DAY? I mean come on for christs sake. Theres enough shit happening in the world atm yet we've got a group of around 10-15 people on here that really do seem to love the sound of their own moaning voices...round and round and round they go. Its depressing, puts others off posting, and is detrimental to the forum as a whole. I think a growing number of us are getting sick to the back teeth of it tbh.
Absolutely, think exactly the same and those 10-15 people are the ones banging on that we hear too much from TS.
The reason we are doomed is not that TS is an idiot (he clearly isn't) or malicious (he seems very decent) or that he is running another business in the USA (not impossible) or that he knows little about professional football (he can get decent advice).
In my view, the problem looks like ( I have no inside information) that he is micro-managing the football side together with his son and they are not qualified to do so which is damaging performances and frustrating everyone else at the club.
Why is the owner interviewed after the Fraser signing to tell us how he was target and how has the right attributes etc ? - surely this should be the manager of the first team? Why did we sign big Ronnie Schwartz? Why is the owner commenting on the intensity levels of training at Sparrows Lane? Why is he even at Sparrows Lane on a regular basis? Why did he fall out with Nigel Adkins who was so nice?
I am just hoping the persistence with 3-5-2 is entirely Jackson's personal obsession and he is not being directed from above.
Jackson said himself in a post match interview recently, that he could change formation but he doesn't want to lose all the work they've put in already to the 3-5-2.
Well he would say that wouldn't he, he is not going to say "I wish I could switch to 4-4-2 but the owner and his son wont let me".
The interview with Radio London last Wednesday and the meeting with the trust the following night summed him up in a nutshell.
Good intentions but is stubborn and will do what he wants regardless of what other people think. That may be his downfall
Kind of where I am. But hoping that by either realising he's gonna lose a shit load of money, or just by being happy to admit he's wrong, he'll change.
I do think he's a bit like RD as far that is conserned tbh
The reason we are doomed is not that TS is an idiot (he clearly isn't) or malicious (he seems very decent) or that he is running another business in the USA (not impossible) or that he knows little about professional football (he can get decent advice).
In my view, the problem looks like ( I have no inside information) that he is micro-managing the football side together with his son and they are not qualified to do so which is damaging performances and frustrating everyone else at the club.
Why is the owner interviewed after the Fraser signing to tell us how he was target and how has the right attributes etc ? - surely this should be the manager of the first team? Why did we sign big Ronnie Schwartz? Why is the owner commenting on the intensity levels of training at Sparrows Lane? Why is he even at Sparrows Lane on a regular basis? Why did he fall out with Nigel Adkins who was so nice?
I am just hoping the persistence with 3-5-2 is entirely Jackson's personal obsession and he is not being directed from above.
Jackson said himself in a post match interview recently, that he could change formation but he doesn't want to lose all the work they've put in already to the 3-5-2.
Well he would say that wouldn't he, he is not going to say "I wish I could switch to 4-4-2 but the owner and his son wont let me".
He's not going to say that because it's obviously not true.
The reason we are doomed is not that TS is an idiot (he clearly isn't) or malicious (he seems very decent) or that he is running another business in the USA (not impossible) or that he knows little about professional football (he can get decent advice).
In my view, the problem looks like ( I have no inside information) that he is micro-managing the football side together with his son and they are not qualified to do so which is damaging performances and frustrating everyone else at the club.
Why is the owner interviewed after the Fraser signing to tell us how he was target and how has the right attributes etc ? - surely this should be the manager of the first team? Why did we sign big Ronnie Schwartz? Why is the owner commenting on the intensity levels of training at Sparrows Lane? Why is he even at Sparrows Lane on a regular basis? Why did he fall out with Nigel Adkins who was so nice?
I am just hoping the persistence with 3-5-2 is entirely Jackson's personal obsession and he is not being directed from above.
Jackson said himself in a post match interview recently, that he could change formation but he doesn't want to lose all the work they've put in already to the 3-5-2.
Well he would say that wouldn't he, he is not going to say "I wish I could switch to 4-4-2 but the owner and his son wont let me".
He's not going to say that because it's obviously not true.
Yes I agree with you. I don’t believe for a second this formation has come down from the top. You might be able to question the Sandgaard’s credentials on the recruiting front but there is no reason to believe they are actively picking the team / formation.
This is Jackson’s long term plan, based on the research he will have done about what makes EFL football teams successful in 2022. He’s put all his chips down and finding out which players are suited to the way he wants to take this club forward. Some are showing they want it and others haven’t.
The interview with Radio London last Wednesday and the meeting with the trust the following night summed him up in a nutshell.
Good intentions but is stubborn and will do what he wants regardless of what other people think. That may be his downfall
Kind of where I am. But hoping that by either realising he's gonna lose a shit load of money, or just by being happy to admit he's wrong, he'll change.
I do think he's a bit like RD as far that is concerned tbh
RD was here for how long? 6 years or so was it? He was stubborn for sure, but he never cared for the club. I think that's the difference. Despite their similarity in having stubborn sides, I believe Sandgaard has bought his toy and he loves it. He loves the excitement and celebrity it has given him as well as re-igniting his passion in a project. Roland never had an affinity for us.
I think TS has shown he's learnt a bit already (importance of fan engagement), but it's undeniable that he needs to learn faster (CEO, proper scouting network, sign early to sign cheaper).
So long as we see more of the learning and some level of progression, I'll be happy.
Someone who has made many mistakes and learned from them has more experience and knowledge than someone who has never made a mistake.
I'll be honest here, I won't pretend that I KNOW that Sandgaard will do well here, but have a good feeling and know I could be wrong. There are some though that are adamant already that they KNOW that he won't turn it all around and some of those seem genuinely invested in the hope he'll fail - which I'll never get.
The reason we are doomed is not that TS is an idiot (he clearly isn't) or malicious (he seems very decent) or that he is running another business in the USA (not impossible) or that he knows little about professional football (he can get decent advice).
In my view, the problem looks like ( I have no inside information) that he is micro-managing the football side together with his son and they are not qualified to do so which is damaging performances and frustrating everyone else at the club.
Why is the owner interviewed after the Fraser signing to tell us how he was target and how has the right attributes etc ? - surely this should be the manager of the first team? Why did we sign big Ronnie Schwartz? Why is the owner commenting on the intensity levels of training at Sparrows Lane? Why is he even at Sparrows Lane on a regular basis? Why did he fall out with Nigel Adkins who was so nice?
I am just hoping the persistence with 3-5-2 is entirely Jackson's personal obsession and he is not being directed from above.
Jackson said himself in a post match interview recently, that he could change formation but he doesn't want to lose all the work they've put in already to the 3-5-2.
Well he would say that wouldn't he, he is not going to say "I wish I could switch to 4-4-2 but the owner and his son wont let me".
He's not going to say that because it's obviously not true.
I am not saying it is but for a football man like JJ who is no mug to continue with a system that is clearly not working something seems strange.
As for what managers say in interviews, they answer in keeping with their employment so no criticism or negativity is ever reported as they want to keep their jobs.
The reason we are doomed is not that TS is an idiot (he clearly isn't) or malicious (he seems very decent) or that he is running another business in the USA (not impossible) or that he knows little about professional football (he can get decent advice).
In my view, the problem looks like ( I have no inside information) that he is micro-managing the football side together with his son and they are not qualified to do so which is damaging performances and frustrating everyone else at the club.
Why is the owner interviewed after the Fraser signing to tell us how he was target and how has the right attributes etc ? - surely this should be the manager of the first team? Why did we sign big Ronnie Schwartz? Why is the owner commenting on the intensity levels of training at Sparrows Lane? Why is he even at Sparrows Lane on a regular basis? Why did he fall out with Nigel Adkins who was so nice?
I am just hoping the persistence with 3-5-2 is entirely Jackson's personal obsession and he is not being directed from above.
Jackson said himself in a post match interview recently, that he could change formation but he doesn't want to lose all the work they've put in already to the 3-5-2.
Well he would say that wouldn't he, he is not going to say "I wish I could switch to 4-4-2 but the owner and his son wont let me".
He's not going to say that because it's obviously not true.
I am not saying it is but for a football man like JJ who is no mug to continue with a system that is clearly not working something seems strange.
As for what managers say in interviews, they answer in keeping with their employment so no criticism or negativity is ever reported as they want to keep their jobs.
He did go for a 4-4-2 diamond a couple of times after making subs, but soon returned to his favoured 3-5-2
The reason we are doomed is not that TS is an idiot (he clearly isn't) or malicious (he seems very decent) or that he is running another business in the USA (not impossible) or that he knows little about professional football (he can get decent advice).
In my view, the problem looks like ( I have no inside information) that he is micro-managing the football side together with his son and they are not qualified to do so which is damaging performances and frustrating everyone else at the club.
Why is the owner interviewed after the Fraser signing to tell us how he was target and how has the right attributes etc ? - surely this should be the manager of the first team? Why did we sign big Ronnie Schwartz? Why is the owner commenting on the intensity levels of training at Sparrows Lane? Why is he even at Sparrows Lane on a regular basis? Why did he fall out with Nigel Adkins who was so nice?
I am just hoping the persistence with 3-5-2 is entirely Jackson's personal obsession and he is not being directed from above.
Jackson said himself in a post match interview recently, that he could change formation but he doesn't want to lose all the work they've put in already to the 3-5-2.
Well he would say that wouldn't he, he is not going to say "I wish I could switch to 4-4-2 but the owner and his son wont let me".
He's not going to say that because it's obviously not true.
Yes I agree with you. I don’t believe for a second this formation has come down from the top. You might be able to question the Sandgaard’s credentials on the recruiting front but there is no reason to believe they are actively picking the team / formation.
This is Jackson’s long term plan, based on the research he will have done about what makes EFL football teams successful in 2022. He’s put all his chips down and finding out which players are suited to the way he wants to take this club forward. Some are showing they want it and others haven’t.
Which clubs use 352 successfully in the EFL?
When this came up about 433 (or versions of) I am sure 8 of the last 9 clubs promoted from this divison played 433.
The reason we are doomed is not that TS is an idiot (he clearly isn't) or malicious (he seems very decent) or that he is running another business in the USA (not impossible) or that he knows little about professional football (he can get decent advice).
In my view, the problem looks like ( I have no inside information) that he is micro-managing the football side together with his son and they are not qualified to do so which is damaging performances and frustrating everyone else at the club.
Why is the owner interviewed after the Fraser signing to tell us how he was target and how has the right attributes etc ? - surely this should be the manager of the first team? Why did we sign big Ronnie Schwartz? Why is the owner commenting on the intensity levels of training at Sparrows Lane? Why is he even at Sparrows Lane on a regular basis? Why did he fall out with Nigel Adkins who was so nice?
I am just hoping the persistence with 3-5-2 is entirely Jackson's personal obsession and he is not being directed from above.
Jackson said himself in a post match interview recently, that he could change formation but he doesn't want to lose all the work they've put in already to the 3-5-2.
Well he would say that wouldn't he, he is not going to say "I wish I could switch to 4-4-2 but the owner and his son wont let me".
He's not going to say that because it's obviously not true.
Yes I agree with you. I don’t believe for a second this formation has come down from the top. You might be able to question the Sandgaard’s credentials on the recruiting front but there is no reason to believe they are actively picking the team / formation.
This is Jackson’s long term plan, based on the research he will have done about what makes EFL football teams successful in 2022. He’s put all his chips down and finding out which players are suited to the way he wants to take this club forward. Some are showing they want it and others haven’t.
Which clubs use 352 successfully in the EFL?
When this came up about 433 (or versions of) I am sure 8 of the last 9 clubs promoted from this divison played 433.
Sky Sports shows MK Dons and Rotherham have used a 3 at the back formation recently. Believe it’s their regular formation but might be wrong.
The reason we are doomed is not that TS is an idiot (he clearly isn't) or malicious (he seems very decent) or that he is running another business in the USA (not impossible) or that he knows little about professional football (he can get decent advice).
In my view, the problem looks like ( I have no inside information) that he is micro-managing the football side together with his son and they are not qualified to do so which is damaging performances and frustrating everyone else at the club.
Why is the owner interviewed after the Fraser signing to tell us how he was target and how has the right attributes etc ? - surely this should be the manager of the first team? Why did we sign big Ronnie Schwartz? Why is the owner commenting on the intensity levels of training at Sparrows Lane? Why is he even at Sparrows Lane on a regular basis? Why did he fall out with Nigel Adkins who was so nice?
I am just hoping the persistence with 3-5-2 is entirely Jackson's personal obsession and he is not being directed from above.
Jackson said himself in a post match interview recently, that he could change formation but he doesn't want to lose all the work they've put in already to the 3-5-2.
Well he would say that wouldn't he, he is not going to say "I wish I could switch to 4-4-2 but the owner and his son wont let me".
He's not going to say that because it's obviously not true.
I am not saying it is but for a football man like JJ who is no mug to continue with a system that is clearly not working something seems strange.
As for what managers say in interviews, they answer in keeping with their employment so no criticism or negativity is ever reported as they want to keep their jobs.
I can say with some authority that the 352 hasn't been mandated from above.
The reason we are doomed is not that TS is an idiot (he clearly isn't) or malicious (he seems very decent) or that he is running another business in the USA (not impossible) or that he knows little about professional football (he can get decent advice).
In my view, the problem looks like ( I have no inside information) that he is micro-managing the football side together with his son and they are not qualified to do so which is damaging performances and frustrating everyone else at the club.
Why is the owner interviewed after the Fraser signing to tell us how he was target and how has the right attributes etc ? - surely this should be the manager of the first team? Why did we sign big Ronnie Schwartz? Why is the owner commenting on the intensity levels of training at Sparrows Lane? Why is he even at Sparrows Lane on a regular basis? Why did he fall out with Nigel Adkins who was so nice?
I am just hoping the persistence with 3-5-2 is entirely Jackson's personal obsession and he is not being directed from above.
Jackson said himself in a post match interview recently, that he could change formation but he doesn't want to lose all the work they've put in already to the 3-5-2.
Well he would say that wouldn't he, he is not going to say "I wish I could switch to 4-4-2 but the owner and his son wont let me".
People said this about Adkins and 4-2-3-1 - even though he did change formation a few times. They said Ged Roddy was forcing him to play it? Then Jacko takes over, says he has own style, that he likes to play with two up front and 3-5-2 is the best way of doing that in the modern game, but because we're shit, it's being forced him? Don't buy it, personally. Just the Hose of Frustration spraying around.
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Plus Derby have the advantage of an owner who is not an incorrigible, stubborn idiot with unrealistic expectations of value that would skew the entire process.
In my view, the problem looks like ( I have no inside information) that he is micro-managing the football side together with his son and they are not qualified to do so which is damaging performances and frustrating everyone else at the club.
Why is the owner interviewed after the Fraser signing to tell us how he was target and how has the right attributes etc ? - surely this should be the manager of the first team?
Why did we sign big Ronnie Schwartz?
Why is the owner commenting on the intensity levels of training at Sparrows Lane?
Why is he even at Sparrows Lane on a regular basis?
Why did he fall out with Nigel Adkins who was so nice?
I am just hoping the persistence with 3-5-2 is entirely Jackson's personal obsession and he is not being directed from above.
Good intentions but is stubborn and will do what he wants regardless of what other people think. That may be his downfall
Thomas has made a right mess of this season.
Thomas is saying things that suggest he might do the same next season - like employing his totally inexperienced son as part of the recruitment team.
Thomas is a decent human.
Thomas needs some CEO football experience to help run the club.
All these statements are true, imo.
This idea that the fans should keep quiet and carry on because they haven’t pumped £millions in is bullshit. Thomas is fronting up and that should be applauded. But he’s also got broad enough shoulders to take some criticism for what has been an abject season.
Yes there wouldn’t be any negativity if we were top….because he would’ve got the infrastructure right!
He makes himself available to fans and reporters which is highly desirable in an owner IMO. Unfortunately for you this means he is asked questions and he answers them.
He is often at Sparrows Lane as getting Cat1 is key to the future of our club.
He fell out with Adkins because he kept losing. Adkins was frustrated with TS because we did not recruit quick enough. TS has since got rid of the ‘football expert’ he appointed to oversee this.
Your comment about formation is very disrespectful of JJ and I am quite shocked you think so poorly of him.
We were an absolute mess.
from what I have read he played for Enfield for a short time, got bored and went to work for TS
My impression is he really enjoys the attention of being in the media spotlight.
You may have more information about his son's professional qualifications and inside information to disprove my micro management theory. If so, please enlighten us. Is MS just a data analyst or is he his father's 'eyes and ears in the club' too? These are two very different roles and may be mutually incompatible.
If Thomas Driesen was installed as a club spy for Roland when Powell was in charge, people would have been rightly furious.
No offence or disrespect intended to you or Jackson. I was really enthusiastic when he was appointed and had faith in him as a manager but something is clearly dysfunctional given the budget we have.
I would be delighted to know the truth, or even hear a better theory, to explain our continual abject performances, Jackson's personality change and the inexplicable insistence on repeating the same failed approach every match.
I do think he's a bit like RD as far that is conserned tbh
I think TS has shown he's learnt a bit already (importance of fan engagement), but it's undeniable that he needs to learn faster (CEO, proper scouting network, sign early to sign cheaper).
So long as we see more of the learning and some level of progression, I'll be happy.
Someone who has made many mistakes and learned from them has more experience and knowledge than someone who has never made a mistake.
I'll be honest here, I won't pretend that I KNOW that Sandgaard will do well here, but have a good feeling and know I could be wrong. There are some though that are adamant already that they KNOW that he won't turn it all around and some of those seem genuinely invested in the hope he'll fail - which I'll never get.
As for what managers say in interviews, they answer in keeping with their employment so no criticism or negativity is ever reported as they want to keep their jobs.
When this came up about 433 (or versions of) I am sure 8 of the last 9 clubs promoted from this divison played 433.