Henry and JRS would know about each other due to development football.
Not counting Ness (harshly criticised anyway) but Leaburn, Morgan, Henry and Clayden all played a part last night. Steve Avory was there and must’ve been pleased.
I predict there are other decent players who will emerge pretty soon.
What they will lack is experience of grown men playing professional football, but are already very experienced in football as a sport if that makes sense.
Albie Morgan was an eye catching player coming through and playing with and against his peers, he is still very young but his professional experience has added value.
We have others who can grow into the professional game similarly.
I don't think the criticism of Ness was harsh. He was torn to pieces at right back and also decided to try and become Madjid bougherra with an ill advised dribble out of defence. I am not writing him off by any means and hope to see a lot more of him at CB, but it is completely fair to say he wasn't good yesterday even if you can also lay the blame at Garner for throwing him to the wolves out of position.
With Egbo injured I think seeing if Ness is ready/able to provide cover at RB is actually fairly reasonable by the manager.
Sadly it seems the answer is "probably not" but at least we know and if necessary can potentially act in the window.
Thought Sessegnon was a right back so he could cover that position if necessary and bring Clayden in on the left?
I was thinking that. Not ideal, but in an emergency, Clayden at LB probably would be a better option than Ness at RB, seeing that he's older and made a decent impression in that position yesterday
Henry and JRS would know about each other due to development football.
Not counting Ness (harshly criticised anyway) but Leaburn, Morgan, Henry and Clayden all played a part last night. Steve Avory was there and must’ve been pleased.
I predict there are other decent players who will emerge pretty soon.
What they will lack is experience of grown men playing professional football, but are already very experienced in football as a sport if that makes sense.
Albie Morgan was an eye catching player coming through and playing with and against his peers, he is still very young but his professional experience has added value.
We have others who can grow into the professional game similarly.
I don't think the criticism of Ness was harsh. He was torn to pieces at right back and also decided to try and become Madjid bougherra with an ill advised dribble out of defence. I am not writing him off by any means and hope to see a lot more of him at CB, but it is completely fair to say he wasn't good yesterday even if you can also lay the blame at Garner for throwing him to the wolves out of position.
With Egbo injured I think seeing if Ness is ready/able to provide cover at RB is actually fairly reasonable by the manager.
Sadly it seems the answer is "probably not" but at least we know and if necessary can potentially act in the window.
Thought Sessegnon was a right back so he could cover that position if necessary and bring Clayden in on the left?
I was thinking that. Not ideal, but in an emergency, Clayden at LB probably would be a better option than Ness at RB, seeing that he's older and made a decent impression in that position yesterday
That has to be the plan. I always thought we'd have one RB, one LB plus Sessegnon to cover both, like what City did last season and are likely to do this season. We've got enough in quantity now, although Clayden being the back up LB will no doubt divide opinion.
Henry and JRS would know about each other due to development football.
Not counting Ness (harshly criticised anyway) but Leaburn, Morgan, Henry and Clayden all played a part last night. Steve Avory was there and must’ve been pleased.
I predict there are other decent players who will emerge pretty soon.
What they will lack is experience of grown men playing professional football, but are already very experienced in football as a sport if that makes sense.
Albie Morgan was an eye catching player coming through and playing with and against his peers, he is still very young but his professional experience has added value.
We have others who can grow into the professional game similarly.
I don't think the criticism of Ness was harsh. He was torn to pieces at right back and also decided to try and become Madjid bougherra with an ill advised dribble out of defence. I am not writing him off by any means and hope to see a lot more of him at CB, but it is completely fair to say he wasn't good yesterday even if you can also lay the blame at Garner for throwing him to the wolves out of position.
With Egbo injured I think seeing if Ness is ready/able to provide cover at RB is actually fairly reasonable by the manager.
Sadly it seems the answer is "probably not" but at least we know and if necessary can potentially act in the window.
Thought Sessegnon was a right back so he could cover that position if necessary and bring Clayden in on the left?
I was thinking that. Not ideal, but in an emergency, Clayden at LB probably would be a better option than Ness at RB, seeing that he's older and made a decent impression in that position yesterday
That has to be the plan. I always thought we'd have one RB, one LB plus Sessegnon to cover both, like what City did last season and are likely to do this season. We've got enough in quantity now, although Clayden being the back up LB will no doubt divide opinion.
Henry and JRS would know about each other due to development football.
Not counting Ness (harshly criticised anyway) but Leaburn, Morgan, Henry and Clayden all played a part last night. Steve Avory was there and must’ve been pleased.
I predict there are other decent players who will emerge pretty soon.
What they will lack is experience of grown men playing professional football, but are already very experienced in football as a sport if that makes sense.
Albie Morgan was an eye catching player coming through and playing with and against his peers, he is still very young but his professional experience has added value.
We have others who can grow into the professional game similarly.
I don't think the criticism of Ness was harsh. He was torn to pieces at right back and also decided to try and become Madjid bougherra with an ill advised dribble out of defence. I am not writing him off by any means and hope to see a lot more of him at CB, but it is completely fair to say he wasn't good yesterday even if you can also lay the blame at Garner for throwing him to the wolves out of position.
With Egbo injured I think seeing if Ness is ready/able to provide cover at RB is actually fairly reasonable by the manager.
Sadly it seems the answer is "probably not" but at least we know and if necessary can potentially act in the window.
Thought Sessegnon was a right back so he could cover that position if necessary and bring Clayden in on the left?
I was thinking that. Not ideal, but in an emergency, Clayden at LB probably would be a better option than Ness at RB, seeing that he's older and made a decent impression in that position yesterday
That has to be the plan. I always thought we'd have one RB, one LB plus Sessegnon to cover both, like what City did last season and are likely to do this season. We've got enough in quantity now, although Clayden being the back up LB will no doubt divide opinion.
Clare will be first choice right back.
With the way he's started the season I would have to agree
Four points and a win in the League Cup... took us five games to achieve that last season, whilst we didnt advance in the League Cup, with the defeat coming against a side that got relegation from the same Division as us.
Would like to think we've already made a bit of progress 12-months on.
Henry and JRS would know about each other due to development football.
Not counting Ness (harshly criticised anyway) but Leaburn, Morgan, Henry and Clayden all played a part last night. Steve Avory was there and must’ve been pleased.
I predict there are other decent players who will emerge pretty soon.
What they will lack is experience of grown men playing professional football, but are already very experienced in football as a sport if that makes sense.
Albie Morgan was an eye catching player coming through and playing with and against his peers, he is still very young but his professional experience has added value.
We have others who can grow into the professional game similarly.
I don't think the criticism of Ness was harsh. He was torn to pieces at right back and also decided to try and become Madjid bougherra with an ill advised dribble out of defence. I am not writing him off by any means and hope to see a lot more of him at CB, but it is completely fair to say he wasn't good yesterday even if you can also lay the blame at Garner for throwing him to the wolves out of position.
With Egbo injured I think seeing if Ness is ready/able to provide cover at RB is actually fairly reasonable by the manager.
Sadly it seems the answer is "probably not" but at least we know and if necessary can potentially act in the window.
Thought Sessegnon was a right back so he could cover that position if necessary and bring Clayden in on the left?
I was thinking that. Not ideal, but in an emergency, Clayden at LB probably would be a better option than Ness at RB, seeing that he's older and made a decent impression in that position yesterday
That has to be the plan. I always thought we'd have one RB, one LB plus Sessegnon to cover both, like what City did last season and are likely to do this season. We've got enough in quantity now, although Clayden being the back up LB will no doubt divide opinion.
Clare will be first choice right back.
Yeah maybe. Although I still think the initial thinking would have been Egbo, Sessegnon and a new LB/Clayden with Clare as a utility man. Clare's performances at RB could mean Garner is happy with the three seniors, after all we did see Egbo at LB for a friendly or two.
Get the Palace boy and a CB in pronto ideally, move one or two on (McG, Gilbert, JFC as possibles). Wait towards end of window and see if there are a couple of decent players come up as loan or sale players at bargains as clubs need to move on for one reason or another - likes of Stockton may fall into that category.
If anything we seem slightly over stocked with RBs when compared to our LB options
In hindsight, signing an out and out LB over Sessegnon would have made more sense. Depends on whether Garner thinks Egbo can do a job at LB, if he does we'll probably stick with the 3 we've got and have Clayden as 4th choice. If not, he's got a decision to make, would he be content if Sessegnon gets injured and we have to use Clayden for 10-15 games.
The left-footed defender able to play LCB or LB makes sense on paper, but I don't really think that sort of player exists. You might get a LB capable of playing CB in a 3, or a CB capable of being a defensive LB, but how do you get a O'Connell and Sessegnon as one player?
If anything we seem slightly over stocked with RBs when compared to our LB options
In hindsight, signing an out and out LB over Sessegnon would have made more sense. Depends on whether Garner thinks Egbo can do a job at LB, if he does we'll probably stick with the 3 we've got and have Clayden as 4th choice. If not, he's got a decision to make, would he be content if Sessegnon gets injured and we have to use Clayden for 10-15 games.
The left-footed defender able to play LCB or LB makes sense on paper, but I don't really think that sort of player exists. You might get a LB capable of playing CB in a 3, or a CB capable of being a defensive LB, but how do you get a O'Connell and Sessegnon as one player?
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Egbo play at LB. We've already seen that Garner is quite happy having a LB who cuts in and contributes to the midfield shape. We all thought Egbo was there out of necessity in pre-season but it could well be that he was put there because we like a right footed LB cutting in
If anything we seem slightly over stocked with RBs when compared to our LB options
In hindsight, signing an out and out LB over Sessegnon would have made more sense. Depends on whether Garner thinks Egbo can do a job at LB, if he does we'll probably stick with the 3 we've got and have Clayden as 4th choice. If not, he's got a decision to make, would he be content if Sessegnon gets injured and we have to use Clayden for 10-15 games.
The left-footed defender able to play LCB or LB makes sense on paper, but I don't really think that sort of player exists. You might get a LB capable of playing CB in a 3, or a CB capable of being a defensive LB, but how do you get a O'Connell and Sessegnon as one player?
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Egbo play at LB. We've already seen that Garner is quite happy having a LB who cuts in and contributes to the midfield shape. We all thought Egbo was there out of necessity in pre-season but it could well be that he was put there because we like a right footed LB cutting in
The difference this makes to last season could be very important. For all the stick Jackson gets/got about square pegs/round holes (a lot of it self inflicted admittedly) he was forced to use the players he had rather than ones he might actually have wanted. Even Adkins to a lesser extent seems to have been told what players he had and then had to work out a system to use them, instead of choosing a system and getting the players to fit.
This isn't to say that both didn't have problems and issues apart from this but it does look like lessons might just have been learned, and at least Garner's getting the chance to succeed or fail on his own terms.
If anything we seem slightly over stocked with RBs when compared to our LB options
In hindsight, signing an out and out LB over Sessegnon would have made more sense. Depends on whether Garner thinks Egbo can do a job at LB, if he does we'll probably stick with the 3 we've got and have Clayden as 4th choice. If not, he's got a decision to make, would he be content if Sessegnon gets injured and we have to use Clayden for 10-15 games.
The left-footed defender able to play LCB or LB makes sense on paper, but I don't really think that sort of player exists. You might get a LB capable of playing CB in a 3, or a CB capable of being a defensive LB, but how do you get a O'Connell and Sessegnon as one player?
It seems a bit odd if we end up with 3 options at LB in Sessegnon, Clayden and Egbo, all being of the "can do a job" variety.
And it looks a bit inconsistent to have a right footed LB cutting inside, but not have the same on the right seeing that all our RB options are right footers, Egbo, Clare and Sessegnon plus Ness who's been tried there.
If anything we seem slightly over stocked with RBs when compared to our LB options
In hindsight, signing an out and out LB over Sessegnon would have made more sense. Depends on whether Garner thinks Egbo can do a job at LB, if he does we'll probably stick with the 3 we've got and have Clayden as 4th choice. If not, he's got a decision to make, would he be content if Sessegnon gets injured and we have to use Clayden for 10-15 games.
The left-footed defender able to play LCB or LB makes sense on paper, but I don't really think that sort of player exists. You might get a LB capable of playing CB in a 3, or a CB capable of being a defensive LB, but how do you get a O'Connell and Sessegnon as one player?
It seems a bit odd if we end up with 3 options at LB in Sessegnon, Clayden and Egbo, all being of the "can do a job" variety.
And it looks a bit inconsistent to have a right footed LB cutting inside, but not have the same on the right seeing that all our RB options are right footers, Egbo, Clare and Sessegnon plus Ness who's been tried there.
Agreed. Personally I'd prefer Clayden went out on loan and we brought in a left-footed LB. But with Clare, Sessegnon and Egbo I can easily see Garner being comfortable with them three fighting it out. If funds are tight it's going to be down the list
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With the way he's started the season I would have to agree
Would like to think we've already made a bit of progress 12-months on.
The left-footed defender able to play LCB or LB makes sense on paper, but I don't really think that sort of player exists. You might get a LB capable of playing CB in a 3, or a CB capable of being a defensive LB, but how do you get a O'Connell and Sessegnon as one player?
This isn't to say that both didn't have problems and issues apart from this but it does look like lessons might just have been learned, and at least Garner's getting the chance to succeed or fail on his own terms.
And it looks a bit inconsistent to have a right footed LB cutting inside, but not have the same on the right seeing that all our RB options are right footers, Egbo, Clare and Sessegnon plus Ness who's been tried there.