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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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"small nippy strikers" are unlikely to fit into the system to be honest (as a lone striker). I think our best bet is bringing someone in who can play anyway across the front line.charltonbob said:
We have the front wide players sorted (it seems) midfield seems done & we still need a decent nippy striker who fits into our "new" formation. It would be a nonsense if we were just going to make do with square pegs in round holes at the back &/or untested youngsters for cover at CB. Hopefully we're still working on this.cafcfan1990 said:
Fair and it’s possible. Although I think it’s more likely he’s being played there out of necessity. Not a position I’d necessarily panic and rule the season over but ideally I’d bring another in.Scoham said:
Have commented on this before but maybe he is and he’s finally found his best position? He has the pace we want in that position and isn’t good enough to challenge for a place in the front three.cafcfan1990 said:
Completely agree about Inniss being one of three, huge risk. Feel LB could still be strengthened though, whilst you’re right it is easier for a young LB to come in, Clayden isn’t a LB.Scoham said:Gallen says one or two more could come in and one or two could go. I hope it’s a striker and a centre back (ideally left sided) we’re after. I have more confidence in Clayden stepping up than Ness, it’s easier for a young full back to come in and I don’t like the idea of Inniss being one of only three senior CBs.1 -
Those 2 will be able to play out wide when needed with injuries, rotation etc.ElliotCAFC said:
Can’t see us having Stockley, Simpson, Aneke, and Leaburn fighting for one spot.Chunes said:Tyreece Simpson would be the icing on the cake and I think he'd end up being our first choice striker. He's strong, quick, he can hold it up and take players on and he can lay chances on for others as well as finish. Good all-round, mobile player which is what we need up top.1 -
Barton has been there 18 months. He signed the guy last summer, gave him a new 2 year deal just a couple of months ago and even played him in their first league game of this season.Dizzle said:Barton in the press slagging off that Trevor Clarke lad again 😬
https://extra.ie/2022/08/09/sport/soccernews/joey-barton-trevor-clarke
How on earth do you see the guy day in day out for an entire year, decide he's worth a new deal and then just a few weeks later, decide he is hopeless and you don't trust him? Very strange.4 -
Because Barton is an arseholeChris_from_Sidcup said:
Barton has been there 18 months. He signed the guy last summer, gave him a new 2 year deal just a couple of months ago and even played him in their first league game of this season.Dizzle said:Barton in the press slagging off that Trevor Clarke lad again 😬
https://extra.ie/2022/08/09/sport/soccernews/joey-barton-trevor-clarke
How on earth do you see the guy day in day out for an entire year, decide he's worth a new deal and then just a few weeks later, decide he is hopeless and you don't trust him? Very strange.14 -
Perhaps with hindsight.ElliotCAFC said:
Which is why it was naive to resign Aneke. I just can’t see us paying Stockley, Simpson and Aneke when only one will play at a time.sam3110 said:
Aneke will be permacrocked and Leaburn will be used wide as much as through the middleElliotCAFC said:
Can’t see us having Stockley, Simpson, Aneke, and Leaburn fighting for one spot.Chunes said:Tyreece Simpson would be the icing on the cake and I think he'd end up being our first choice striker. He's strong, quick, he can hold it up and take players on and he can lay chances on for others as well as finish. Good all-round, mobile player which is what we need up top.I think we’re done for strikers.
Aneke was signed to play in 3-5-2 system. That's now changed. It seems we're not going to play that way this season.
And obviously his role was to be impact sub, a game changer, scoring late goals.
Maybe he still will do that.
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Plus 5 subs permitted. That's going to make the bench players even more valuable.Blucher said:I’m worried about Stockley’s back problem, which can’t help with his mobility (not that mobility is really his bag). Chuks is best deployed from the bench and we don’t want to stunt Miles Leaburn’s development by overplaying him.Given the doubts about the fitness of our two main strikers, I really do think we need another in before the window closes. It’s a long, tough season and we can’t afford to be caught short handed like last season.
We need to ensure we have our strongest starting XI; and our strongest finishing XI.
We still can't be certain Stockley is fully recovered - or even playing with the injury and could break down again.
Even if he's fit enough, he shouldn't be overplayed if there's any lingering doubts.
And yes, Leaburn is still only 18. He's showing great promise but of course he's not yet the finished article.
We're meant to be developing him rather than expecting a ready made player. We need to build his confidence and experience gradually.
In the long run, that's best for the player and his impact upon the team.
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To be fair this is the twat who assaulted a team mate during training, and stubbed a cigar out on the eye of a Youth Team player - He's done a decentish job in the lower reaches of the EFL as a Manager. but still find it ironic how he bemoans player behaviour like this, which you cant even begin to compare.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Barton has been there 18 months. He signed the guy last summer, gave him a new 2 year deal just a couple of months ago and even played him in their first league game of this season.Dizzle said:Barton in the press slagging off that Trevor Clarke lad again 😬
https://extra.ie/2022/08/09/sport/soccernews/joey-barton-trevor-clarke
How on earth do you see the guy day in day out for an entire year, decide he's worth a new deal and then just a few weeks later, decide he is hopeless and you don't trust him? Very strange.
I wonder if he's been told as much by any players he's fallen out with2 -
Is Aneke even considered for the starting spot? And looking at how he was used in pre-season by Garner and how we set up second half vs derby and against QPR in more of a 4-2-3-1, Garner might be planning on using Aneke behind one of the strikers more than as the 1 up frontElliotCAFC said:
Can’t see us having Stockley, Simpson, Aneke, and Leaburn fighting for one spot.Chunes said:Tyreece Simpson would be the icing on the cake and I think he'd end up being our first choice striker. He's strong, quick, he can hold it up and take players on and he can lay chances on for others as well as finish. Good all-round, mobile player which is what we need up top.0 -
a mobile centre forward is the priority now - offloading any of jfc, gilbey, kirk or dj - morgan probably isn't costing much so may as well keep hold - centre back and lb also in ideally but i'm talking about a centre forward to upgrade our best 110
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I agree 100% that if we do not sign anyone else, he can’t be relied upon to be that support act to Stockley. I feel we need someone else. And I think Garner does too.Smithy said:
I am a big fan of him as a player and there's no doubt he can have a huge impact when he's fit. My point is he is probably a high earner and we paid a fee for him, so with our current forward options I don't think we'll get anyone else in. I'd love to be wrong though.RC_CAFC said:
Don’t see it like that. If fit, there is no better substitute than Aneke in this league. He is also someone you can bring on to support another striker.Smithy said:I just don’t see us signing Simpson. It would effectively mean Aneke doesn’t get in the squad when he’s fit and that would mean accepting it was a terrible idea to sign him (which it clearly was)
He just bullies tired defences. Signing another striker does not make him redundant.But if we do sign someone else and he is only really used off the bench, I think he could be a really important part of the season. His injuries happen when he’s played from the start too often. When he’s only come on and made impacts from the bench, his injury track record for us has been ok.0 - Sponsored links:
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Well whilst i'm sure Clarke isn't exactly a top level player, there must be more to it. They must've had a row and this is Barton's way of dealing with him.ForeverAddickted said:
To be fair this is the twat who assaulted a team mate during training, and stubbed a cigar out on the eye of a Youth Team player - He's done a decentish job in the lower reaches of the EFL as a Manager. but still find it ironic how he bemoans player behaviour like this, which you cant even begin to compare.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Barton has been there 18 months. He signed the guy last summer, gave him a new 2 year deal just a couple of months ago and even played him in their first league game of this season.Dizzle said:Barton in the press slagging off that Trevor Clarke lad again 😬
https://extra.ie/2022/08/09/sport/soccernews/joey-barton-trevor-clarke
How on earth do you see the guy day in day out for an entire year, decide he's worth a new deal and then just a few weeks later, decide he is hopeless and you don't trust him? Very strange.
I wonder if he's been told as much by any players he's fallen out with
Because you can't have the player for a year, give him a new deal in June and then suddenly in August decide he's shit.1 -
I don’t think he was signed for any one formation or manager. I wouldn’t say it’s a case of hindsight, you don’t have to be a soothsayer to predict he will spend the majority of his time in the treatment room.Oggy Red said:
Perhaps with hindsight.ElliotCAFC said:
Which is why it was naive to resign Aneke. I just can’t see us paying Stockley, Simpson and Aneke when only one will play at a time.sam3110 said:
Aneke will be permacrocked and Leaburn will be used wide as much as through the middleElliotCAFC said:
Can’t see us having Stockley, Simpson, Aneke, and Leaburn fighting for one spot.Chunes said:Tyreece Simpson would be the icing on the cake and I think he'd end up being our first choice striker. He's strong, quick, he can hold it up and take players on and he can lay chances on for others as well as finish. Good all-round, mobile player which is what we need up top.I think we’re done for strikers.
Aneke was signed to play in 3-5-2 system. That's now changed. It seems we're not going to play that way this season.
And obviously his role was to be impact sub, a game changer, scoring late goals.
Maybe he still will do that.0 -
NabySarr said:
Is Aneke even considered for the starting spot? And looking at how he was used in pre-season by Garner and how we set up second half vs derby and against QPR in more of a 4-2-3-1, Garner might be planning on using Aneke behind one of the strikers more than as the 1 up frontElliotCAFC said:
Can’t see us having Stockley, Simpson, Aneke, and Leaburn fighting for one spot.Chunes said:Tyreece Simpson would be the icing on the cake and I think he'd end up being our first choice striker. He's strong, quick, he can hold it up and take players on and he can lay chances on for others as well as finish. Good all-round, mobile player which is what we need up top.I just don’t see room for another striker, especially considering how important it is to Ben Garner having two wingers and midfielders on the bench.Assuming we start with the same team, we’d have to somehow fit Aneke, Simpson, JRS, Leaburn, DJ, Mcgrandles, and Payne on the bench. That’s before we add any defenders and a keeper.1 -
That's a rather nice problem to have, isn't it? Fierce competition. Imagine having to bust a gut just to make the bench. Pushes everyone's levels up. Great options for rotation as well.ElliotCAFC said:NabySarr said:
Is Aneke even considered for the starting spot? And looking at how he was used in pre-season by Garner and how we set up second half vs derby and against QPR in more of a 4-2-3-1, Garner might be planning on using Aneke behind one of the strikers more than as the 1 up frontElliotCAFC said:
Can’t see us having Stockley, Simpson, Aneke, and Leaburn fighting for one spot.Chunes said:Tyreece Simpson would be the icing on the cake and I think he'd end up being our first choice striker. He's strong, quick, he can hold it up and take players on and he can lay chances on for others as well as finish. Good all-round, mobile player which is what we need up top.I just don’t see room for another striker, especially considering how important it is to Ben Garner having two wingers and midfielders on the bench.Assuming we start with the same team, we’d have to somehow fit Aneke, Simpson, JRS, Leaburn, DJ, Mcgrandles, and Payne on the bench. That’s before we add any defenders and a keeper.
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Well yes it's a problem if everyone is fit, but that's going to be a rarity i'm sure.ElliotCAFC said:NabySarr said:
Is Aneke even considered for the starting spot? And looking at how he was used in pre-season by Garner and how we set up second half vs derby and against QPR in more of a 4-2-3-1, Garner might be planning on using Aneke behind one of the strikers more than as the 1 up frontElliotCAFC said:
Can’t see us having Stockley, Simpson, Aneke, and Leaburn fighting for one spot.Chunes said:Tyreece Simpson would be the icing on the cake and I think he'd end up being our first choice striker. He's strong, quick, he can hold it up and take players on and he can lay chances on for others as well as finish. Good all-round, mobile player which is what we need up top.I just don’t see room for another striker, especially considering how important it is to Ben Garner having two wingers and midfielders on the bench.Assuming we start with the same team, we’d have to somehow fit Aneke, Simpson, JRS, Leaburn, DJ, Mcgrandles, and Payne on the bench. That’s before we add any defenders and a keeper.
If Aneke and Simpson were on the bench, Leaburn wouldn't be in the squad.
Bench would probably be something like Macgillivray, Lavelle, McGrandles, Morgan, DJ, Simpson, Aneke.0 -
I think finding a back up striker may be difficult, I’d like someone like Niasse on a 1 year deal but can’t see anything like that happening in the short term.Squad overall looks healthy and very competitive to me. If we can get some more defensive bodies in I’d say we’re in business.4
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DefoStrikerFirmani said:
You must be ITK.sillav nitram said:
Yes, there’s rumours that this thread talks a load of ol’ bollox!Mendonca In Asdas said:I've had to skip 6 pages, any genuine rumours at the moment?0 -
Judas returning?sillav nitram said:
DefoStrikerFirmani said:
You must be ITK.sillav nitram said:
Yes, there’s rumours that this thread talks a load of ol’ bollox!Mendonca In Asdas said:I've had to skip 6 pages, any genuine rumours at the moment?1 -
Don’t see why we need new defenders.
Garner obviously thinks they’re overrated based on the goals Swindon shipped last year 😂 Attack is his best form of defence!!
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Yeah it’s a great problem, I don’t remember us going into a season so spoilt for choice up top.Chunes said:
That's a rather nice problem to have, isn't it? Fierce competition. Imagine having to bust a gut just to make the bench. Pushes everyone's levels up. Great options for rotation as well.ElliotCAFC said:NabySarr said:
Is Aneke even considered for the starting spot? And looking at how he was used in pre-season by Garner and how we set up second half vs derby and against QPR in more of a 4-2-3-1, Garner might be planning on using Aneke behind one of the strikers more than as the 1 up frontElliotCAFC said:
Can’t see us having Stockley, Simpson, Aneke, and Leaburn fighting for one spot.Chunes said:Tyreece Simpson would be the icing on the cake and I think he'd end up being our first choice striker. He's strong, quick, he can hold it up and take players on and he can lay chances on for others as well as finish. Good all-round, mobile player which is what we need up top.I just don’t see room for another striker, especially considering how important it is to Ben Garner having two wingers and midfielders on the bench.Assuming we start with the same team, we’d have to somehow fit Aneke, Simpson, JRS, Leaburn, DJ, Mcgrandles, and Payne on the bench. That’s before we add any defenders and a keeper.While I does drive competitiveness, I can also get peoples knickers in a twist.0 - Sponsored links:
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I cant see how they will attract a decent striker into the building if they aren't playing most weeks, and i cant see us paying top dollar for a backup.2
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But that's with no injuries, suspensions, loss of form or any other factors, and I reckon we won't have many weeks where everyone is fit and able to be selected. It would be foolhardy to say that's it, and then Stockley aggravates his back, Leaburn is out of form and Aneke is still not fully fit, suddenly you have to try and play with a winger as the striker, or start a game with Kanu up front alone. If you have the squad space and the budget, you should make sure you cover the gapsElliotCAFC said:NabySarr said:
Is Aneke even considered for the starting spot? And looking at how he was used in pre-season by Garner and how we set up second half vs derby and against QPR in more of a 4-2-3-1, Garner might be planning on using Aneke behind one of the strikers more than as the 1 up frontElliotCAFC said:
Can’t see us having Stockley, Simpson, Aneke, and Leaburn fighting for one spot.Chunes said:Tyreece Simpson would be the icing on the cake and I think he'd end up being our first choice striker. He's strong, quick, he can hold it up and take players on and he can lay chances on for others as well as finish. Good all-round, mobile player which is what we need up top.I just don’t see room for another striker, especially considering how important it is to Ben Garner having two wingers and midfielders on the bench.Assuming we start with the same team, we’d have to somehow fit Aneke, Simpson, JRS, Leaburn, DJ, Mcgrandles, and Payne on the bench. That’s before we add any defenders and a keeper.0 -
Some players that arrive at a club know they are first and foremost squad players and others arrive even without guarantees of starting with the confidence that make them think they are un droppable. Any striker with goals in his past locker will undoubtedly be thinking that.0
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I guess that’s a good thing?ForeverAddickted said:
Wont be surprised if any other signings come out of the blueMendonca In Asdas said:I've had to skip 6 pages, any genuine rumours at the moment?
Realistically, its only Payne | Rak-Sakyi out of the seven incomings that we ever knew about before they happened.
The transfer rumours thread are a thing of the past! 👀1 -
A decent striker will look at Stockley, with his back problems last season and without the sort of goal record which makes him undroppable, and Aneke who only seems suited to being a supersub, and fancy their chances.billysboots said:I cant see how they will attract a decent striker into the building if they aren't playing most weeks, and i cant see us paying top dollar for a backup.11 -
Footballers are weirdly confident people. Steve Sidwell truly thought he'd break through at Chelsea, Jenkinson thought he had a chance at Arsenal. Apart from maybe 38 year old goalkeepers every player who goes to a new club reckons they'll break into the team.killerandflash said:
A decent striker will look at Stockley, with his back problems last season and without the sort of goal record which makes him undroppable, and Aneke who only seems suited to being a supersub, and fancy their chances.billysboots said:I cant see how they will attract a decent striker into the building if they aren't playing most weeks, and i cant see us paying top dollar for a backup.
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A decent striker will look at Stockley and think “you should be in midfield mate”.killerandflash said:
A decent striker will look at Stockley, with his back problems last season and without the sort of goal record which makes him undroppable, and Aneke who only seems suited to being a supersub, and fancy their chances.billysboots said:I cant see how they will attract a decent striker into the building if they aren't playing most weeks, and i cant see us paying top dollar for a backup.0 -
Or they just say that because there's plenty of dosh on the table.Garrymanilow said:
Footballers are weirdly confident people. Steve Sidwell truly thought he'd break through at Chelsea, Jenkinson thought he had a chance at Arsenal. Apart from maybe 38 year old goalkeepers every player who goes to a new club reckons they'll break into the team.killerandflash said:
A decent striker will look at Stockley, with his back problems last season and without the sort of goal record which makes him undroppable, and Aneke who only seems suited to being a supersub, and fancy their chances.billysboots said:I cant see how they will attract a decent striker into the building if they aren't playing most weeks, and i cant see us paying top dollar for a backup.0 -
It's pretty obvious he was signed to augment the gameplan in a twin striker formation. Jacko was wedded to 3-5-2.ElliotCAFC said:
I don’t think he was signed for any one formation or manager. I wouldn’t say it’s a case of hindsight, you don’t have to be a soothsayer to predict he will spend the majority of his time in the treatment room.Oggy Red said:
Perhaps with hindsight.ElliotCAFC said:
Which is why it was naive to resign Aneke. I just can’t see us paying Stockley, Simpson and Aneke when only one will play at a time.sam3110 said:
Aneke will be permacrocked and Leaburn will be used wide as much as through the middleElliotCAFC said:
Can’t see us having Stockley, Simpson, Aneke, and Leaburn fighting for one spot.Chunes said:Tyreece Simpson would be the icing on the cake and I think he'd end up being our first choice striker. He's strong, quick, he can hold it up and take players on and he can lay chances on for others as well as finish. Good all-round, mobile player which is what we need up top.I think we’re done for strikers.
Aneke was signed to play in 3-5-2 system. That's now changed. It seems we're not going to play that way this season.
And obviously his role was to be impact sub, a game changer, scoring late goals.
Maybe he still will do that.
Despite his injury record, he was brought back in because of his outstanding goal scoring return the previous season, in a team playing most matches with 2 central strikers: scoring 15 goals + 2 assissts in 11 starts, 27 sub appearances, (total 38 games).
This season the formation and set up is completely different, with just one central striker.
That wouldn't have been foreseen by Jacko and Gallen last January. And based on the previous seasons appearance record, they wouldn't have anticipated that Aneke would miss so many of the remaining games, even if soothsayers know better.
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And this is why transfers are never solely down to the manager any more0
