He'll get 20plus goals for us and we are currently about that number short within the squad. It is a no brainer for me.
What makes you think that until the last two seasons, a player who had never scored over 5 goals in a season, and only over 15 once will score 20 plus goals for us?
The fact that he looked the best striker at The Valley last season, scored 20+ goals, including at least 2 from the half way line.
I mean if the best striker of the season at the valley last year is someone who scored one goal and didn’t get a look in during the second half, then we should have nothing to worry about at all this season
He'll get 20plus goals for us and we are currently about that number short within the squad. It is a no brainer for me.
What makes you think that until the last two seasons, a player who had never scored over 5 goals in a season, and only over 15 once will score 20 plus goals for us?
The fact that he looked the best striker at The Valley last season, scored 20+ goals, including at least 2 from the half way line.
I mean if the best striker of the season at the valley last year is someone who scored one goal and didn’t get a look in during the second half, then we should have nothing to worry about at all this season
Which strikers do you think were better and will sign for us?
Jury is out for me on Stockton, only really done any good for 1 season, but his off the ball movement is good. I'm wondering whether, the plan is to get a young PL striker (not a winger cum striker ala JRS) or indeed Tyreece Simpson is the final piece of the striker conundrum?
Some of us have watched him play a few times. Maybe that is it.
That’s almost as ambiguous an answer you gave to why you thought Wollacott was not very good, ‘I’ve seen things’, after basing it all on one mistake he made in a half of a pre season friendly.
If all the rumours are true and Stockton is off to Fleetwood, then again I think that says it all about how other teams rate his quality and the risk he represents.
Some of us have watched him play a few times. Maybe that is it.
That’s almost as ambiguous an answer you gave to why you thought Wollacott was not very good, ‘I’ve seen things’, after basing it all on one mistake he made in a half of a pre season friendly.
If all the rumours are true and Stockton is off to Fleetwood, then again I think that says it all about how other teams rate his quality and the risk he represents.
I have changed my mind about Wollacott and was always open to it. He was shit against Kilmanock but it was the first game I had seen him.
Stockton’s record before last season doesn’t suggest he’s a goalscorer. But so many seem to be sold based on one hot season
Yes, but it was the most recent season, be more worried if his hot season was five years agon and he only scored 5.goals in each of those years.
It’s the best player in a shit World Cup team signing, he’s got double figures twice in his career, including seasons in League 2 and the National League. I want to be convinced, just don’t buy it, and I would have guessed a NW championship club would be sniffing around, and they haven’t
He'll get 20plus goals for us and we are currently about that number short within the squad. It is a no brainer for me.
What makes you think that until the last two seasons, a player who had never scored over 5 goals in a season, and only over 15 once will score 20 plus goals for us?
The fact that he looked the best striker at The Valley last season, scored 20+ goals, including at least 2 from the half way line.
I mean if the best striker of the season at the valley last year is someone who scored one goal and didn’t get a look in during the second half, then we should have nothing to worry about at all this season
Which strikers do you think were better and will sign for us?
I don’t know. I’m not a scout. I think most strikers at league one level are going to be inconsistent and represent a risk.
If I’m the owner, of a loss making business, I’m sure as hell not spending my money on a 28 year old who for all intense purposes has had one good season, and who flops, you’ve got no chance of making any of your money back.
Id much rather be spending that on someone younger who can develop, and if they do have a poor season for you (*cough* Kirk *cough*), there’s a chance you can recoup some of your outlay.
If I was taking a risk on a hot season last year, it’s McKirdy, knows the manager, has a decent pedigree from Villa, and can finish. If he flops, you might get your money back
The other thing I feel itchy on Stockton, is he’s never really played outside the North West, and your expecting him to settle in London. Gets all a bit Andy Gray for me
If I was taking a risk on a hot season last year, it’s McKirdy, knows the manager, has a decent pedigree from Villa, and can finish. If he flops, you might get your money back
This with knobs on. Would suit the system far better too. I’m far from convinced by Stockton and do worry in him being a one season wonder especially as he’s spent so long in the lower leagues. I’d rather take a punt on McKirdy if Garner wanted him for the reasons above unless we can get someone better.
If I was taking a risk on a hot season last year, it’s McKirdy, knows the manager, has a decent pedigree from Villa, and can finish. If he flops, you might get your money back
This with knobs on. Would suit the system far better too. I’m far from convinced by Stockton and do worry in him being a one season wonder especially as he’s spent so long in the lower leagues. I’d rather take a punt on McKirdy if Garner wanted him for the reasons above unless we can get someone better.
The issue with McKirdy is he’s more of a wide player, it wouldn’t really solve the issue of Stockley not suiting the system.
Tyreece Simpson is the one I have my eye on. Problem is, I think Ipswich won’t want to let him go to a team in their league.
I can only go by what I’ve read and from the highlights from the Swindon games I have seen. So for all I know he could be Davison level (which is not an insult btw).
But for me he offers far less of a risk both in terms of ability and financial then Stockton would.
McKirdy had his "breakthrough" season in L2, there's no guarantee he can step up and be as dangerous. That makes him MORE of a risk than Stockton, who not only did it in L1, he did it in a poor L1 team.
The other thing I feel itchy on Stockton, is he’s never really played outside the North West, and your expecting him to settle in London. Gets all a bit Andy Gray for me
If I was taking a risk on a hot season last year, it’s McKirdy, knows the manager, has a decent pedigree from Villa, and can finish. If he flops, you might get your money back
This with knobs on. Would suit the system far better too. I’m far from convinced by Stockton and do worry in him being a one season wonder especially as he’s spent so long in the lower leagues. I’d rather take a punt on McKirdy if Garner wanted him for the reasons above unless we can get someone better.
The issue with McKirdy is he’s more of a wide player, it wouldn’t really solve the issue of Stockley not suiting the system.
I’d really like McKirdy but like @Callumcafc I’d like Tyreece Simpson too. I’d see Simpson as the priority but both would improve us.
Stockton for me. As people mentioned he was a terror at the Valley last season and could really add something to this team.
Technically good, last couple of seasons he has had a decent goal scoring record in this league in an average team..the way we are playing and how we are set up, he could do really well.
He'll get 20plus goals for us and we are currently about that number short within the squad. It is a no brainer for me.
What makes you think that until the last two seasons, a player who had never scored over 5 goals in a season, and only over 15 once will score 20 plus goals for us?
The fact that he looked the best striker at The Valley last season, scored 20+ goals, including at least 2 from the half way line.
I mean if the best striker of the season at the valley last year is someone who scored one goal and didn’t get a look in during the second half, then we should have nothing to worry about at all this season
Which strikers do you think were better and will sign for us?
I don’t know. I’m not a scout. I think most strikers at league one level are going to be inconsistent and represent a risk.
If I’m the owner, of a loss making business, I’m sure as hell not spending my money on a 28 year old who for all intense purposes has had one good season, and who flops, you’ve got no chance of making any of your money back.
Id much rather be spending that on someone younger who can develop, and if they do have a poor season for you (*cough* Kirk *cough*), there’s a chance you can recoup some of your outlay.
Are you willing to take the risk on Stockton?
Definitely, there's no guarantees but if he's available for £250K I'd take the gamble without doubt. I do watch all the highlights every week and all the live games.
If I was taking a risk on a hot season last year, it’s McKirdy, knows the manager, has a decent pedigree from Villa, and can finish. If he flops, you might get your money back
If I was taking a risk on a hot season last year, it’s McKirdy, knows the manager, has a decent pedigree from Villa, and can finish. If he flops, you might get your money back
It's too easy to disregard Pratley's presence and leadership qualities. When the ball playing snowflakes go missing, or when some oaf scores an own goal in the first few minutes of a play off final, you need someone with balls to step up to the plate. And fwiw he was a tidy footballer at his best.
If Rotherham are interested, I would imagine he would go there. It would be a no-brainier for the lad. They are a championship side who despatched Reading 4-0 today, he could stay in the north of the country, and no doubt Rotherham could and would beat us on a salary package. It’s difficult to come up with any pros why he might come to us, sadly only cons.
Our football this year may be much easier on the eye, but the sad truth is that there are several other teams who are superior to us in most of the departments that matter.
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I'm wondering whether, the plan is to get a young PL striker (not a winger cum striker ala JRS) or indeed Tyreece Simpson is the final piece of the striker conundrum?
If all the rumours are true and Stockton is off to Fleetwood, then again I think that says it all about how other teams rate his quality and the risk he represents.
If I’m the owner, of a loss making business, I’m sure as hell not spending my money on a 28 year old who for all intense purposes has had one good season, and who flops, you’ve got no chance of making any of your money back.
Id much rather be spending that on someone younger who can develop, and if they do have a poor season for you (*cough* Kirk *cough*), there’s a chance you can recoup some of your outlay.
Are you willing to take the risk on Stockton?
But for me he offers far less of a risk both in terms of ability and financial then Stockton would.
Technically good, last couple of seasons he has had a decent goal scoring record in this league in an average team..the way we are playing and how we are set up, he could do really well.
I do watch all the highlights every week and all the live games.
It’s difficult to come up with any pros why he might come to us, sadly only cons.