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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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    When Airman ‘likes’ that post it scares me , we’ve got another nutbag , let’s hope he’s more useful than that goalkeeping coach  from Swindon’s nutsack .
    Is it possible to see who liked a post when using a smartphone?
    Yes, You have to switch to desktop site to do that. 
  • 3 other Swindon players who look the business .. Goalkeeper Ward .. A big, commanding presence .. Right Back Odimayo, assured and good on the ball as well as a decent defender .. and the old man Baudry in central defence, a player I have admired for  a long time since his Orient days .. 34 is nowadays no age for a  fit and capable no 5/6
    AND Swindon have a youngster with the most glorious name after Luke Waterfall .. George Cowmeadow .. now there's a no bullshit name  :)
    So those 3 look the business along with McKirdy, Payne, Egbo, and Reed who i've seen people say we should be after.

    Seriously? This is Swindon, a side who finished 6th in league 2. These players surely are not actually that good at all.
    To draw a comparison, and i stand to be corrected,here, but i think Mansfield Town,just nicked the play offs at 7th under Nigel Clough- George Lapslie, loaned,first, then bought from us ,is a key player
  • Jac_52 said:
    I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.

    The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.

    I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.

    Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
     MS certainly tried at least once last season.

    I'm glad the word tried is in there and I pray there won't be a repeat of this. Are you able to share any more about what happened here as that is massively concerning unless maybe he was trying to get Washington to shoot with 10% more intensity in which case fair play.
  • DA9 said:
    Just been told that TS is definitely over next week with “other shareholders”
    Read into that what you will.
    Rayleen.
  • Jac_52 said:
    I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.

    The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.

    I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.

    Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
     MS certainly tried at least once last season.
    There we go .  Not in the least bit surprised about this.  Any chance of the VoTV coming back for one last issue ?
  • RedChaser said:
    RedChaser said:
    I don’t think Cawley would have tweeted if he was wide of the mark, either TS is lying until it’s official or we have got someone better then Garner which has caused the delay, I don’t really mind either outcome but I expect it to be the first 
    If Cawley is correct, replace liar for bull*******.
    Oi, it’s well past your bedtime 😉.
    Not past closing time Uncle.
    Enjoy but you do know it’s not Friday 🤪.
    Sadly, but it's Friday today.  Hooray.
  • Jac_52 said:
    Jac_52 said:
    I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.

    The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.

    I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.

    Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
     MS certainly tried at least once last season.

    I'm glad the word tried is in there and I pray there won't be a repeat of this. Are you able to share any more about what happened here as that is massively concerning unless maybe he was trying to get Washington to shoot with 10% more intensity in which case fair play.
    But it remains deeply worrying. 
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  • Surely say it publicly and/or avoid chatting to fans about it then. Just a thought.
  • The club just wanted to keep it under wraps till TS comes over next Wed /Thurs out of respect to Swindon and Garner who has yet to leave the club … 
  • Cawley has been clearly told a deal has been agreed, but that's if Charlton go down the Garner route.. I think TS wants 2 or 3 options agreed before picking.. Clearly that could piss people off! 

    I think we will hear a lot more today, potenially announcement, if not early next week! That's my hunch!
  • edited May 2022
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Cawley has been clearly told a deal has been agreed, but that's if Charlton go down the Garner route.. I think TS wants 2 or 3 options agreed before picking.. Clearly that could piss people off! 

    I think we will hear a lot more today, potenially announcement, if not early next week! That's my hunch!
    I think Garner is a backup option ready to sign off on, if Beale joins QPR, which looks likely. Leak to Cawley has come from Swindon/Beale side.

    This scenario means both Cawley and Sandgaard are both speaking the truth. No great conspiracy.
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    Cawley has been clearly told a deal has been agreed, but that's if Charlton go down the Garner route.. I think TS wants 2 or 3 options agreed before picking.. Clearly that could piss people off! 

    I think we will hear a lot more today, potenially announcement, if not early next week! That's my hunch!
    It would be amusing if Garner told us to stuff it .  
  • wmcf123 said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Cawley has been clearly told a deal has been agreed, but that's if Charlton go down the Garner route.. I think TS wants 2 or 3 options agreed before picking.. Clearly that could piss people off! 

    I think we will hear a lot more today, potenially announcement, if not early next week! That's my hunch!
    It would be amusing if Garner told us to stuff it .  
    I suppose it would be amusing if you hated the club.
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    Cawley has been clearly told a deal has been agreed, but that's if Charlton go down the Garner route.. I think TS wants 2 or 3 options agreed before picking.. Clearly that could piss people off! 

    I think we will hear a lot more today, potenially announcement, if not early next week! That's my hunch!
    I think Garner is a backup option ready to sign off on, if Beale joins QPR, which looks likely. Leak to Cawley has come from Swindon/Beale side.

    This scenario means both Cawley and Sandgaard are both speaking the truth. No great conspiracy.
    One is saying it’s a done deal with everything agreed, the other is saying it isn’t, both can’t be true. 
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  • The club just wanted to keep it under wraps till TS comes over next Wed /Thurs out of respect to Swindon and Garner who has yet to leave the club … 
    He’ll leave Swindon when he’s announced as Charlton manager. He won’t leave Swindon first. It’ll all be announced as one. 
  • League 2 managers get paid an average £80,000 per year. I doubt Swindon were paying much more than the average to their manager. Garner had a contract until June 2024. I don’t see TS haggling over what can’t be much more than £160,000 in compensation if he is sure he is the right man for the job.
    If Cawley is to be believed then two of Garners coaching staff are coming with him. That’s two lots more of compensation to factor in. Not as much as Garners would be but combined I would think it doubles the amount.
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