Surely say it publicly and/or avoid chatting to fans about it then. Just a thought.
All he's been saying over LinkedIn repeatedly is that they are still interviewing, hardly leaking info is it? And in this case, he said the reports of Garner being a done deal are incorrect, which is a fair enough denial if he's still hoping on Beale/A.N.Other.
If Beale is first choice, it's prudent to wait until it's confirmed he's going to QPR before switching to second choice Garner, wouldn't you say?
Cawley has been clearly told a deal has been agreed, but that's if Charlton go down the Garner route.. I think TS wants 2 or 3 options agreed before picking.. Clearly that could piss people off!
I think we will hear a lot more today, potenially announcement, if not early next week! That's my hunch!
It would be amusing if Garner told us to stuff it .
I suppose it would be amusing if you hated the club.
Cawley has been clearly told a deal has been agreed, but that's if Charlton go down the Garner route.. I think TS wants 2 or 3 options agreed before picking.. Clearly that could piss people off!
I think we will hear a lot more today, potenially announcement, if not early next week! That's my hunch!
I think Garner is a backup option ready to sign off on, if Beale joins QPR, which looks likely. Leak to Cawley has come from Swindon/Beale side.
This scenario means both Cawley and Sandgaard are both speaking the truth. No great conspiracy.
One is saying it’s a done deal with everything agreed, the other is saying it isn’t, both can’t be true.
I don’t think Cawley would have tweeted if he was wide of the mark, either TS is lying until it’s official or we have got someone better then Garner which has caused the delay, I don’t really mind either outcome but I expect it to be the first
TS not lying just cooling the talk before it’s signed and sealed … he being honourable to both Swindon and Garner
I am a big supporter of TS and been vocal about it, but if he has outright denied that Garner is our man and he becomes our manager then he has lied whichever way you wanna paint it.
The honourable thing to do would be to stay quiet until things official and not have a jolly chin wag with supporters on social media, no disrespect to the supporters who message him but it’s quite peculiar that he would share our important business like that with fans, as much as I like how vocal he is about us..
If it’s true that he was being bugged on LinkedIn about the appointment then he’d have been better off just not replying.
But he wouldn’t want to confirm the appointment on social media to someone he doesn’t know, so fobbed him off saying interviews were ongoing.
It’s more likely that they’re still negotiating terms I think?
The professional thing to do is not engage in that type of conversation if you’re an owner. Can’t stress I’ve really supported him but if we end up appointing Garner as expected, as Cawley is credible, I will be for the first time slightly concerned about our owner. I really don’t like the way his messages come across. You either tell the truth or don’t reply, simple
I agree he shouldn’t engage in this situation, but I can’t really get het up because he told a fan the process was still ongoing. Doesn’t bother me at all really.
League 2 managers get paid an average £80,000 per year. I doubt Swindon were paying much more than the average to their manager. Garner had a contract until June 2024. I don’t see TS haggling over what can’t be much more than £160,000 in compensation if he is sure he is the right man for the job.
If Cawley is to be believed then two of Garners coaching staff are coming with him. That’s two lots more of compensation to factor in. Not as much as Garners would be but combined I would think it doubles the amount.
I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.
The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.
I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.
Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
MS certainly tried at least once last season.
Really? That's astonishing. I can't imagine that it's within his remit given his job title. A Catherine Tate Nan quote springs to mind, "What a f***ing liberty!"
Are you able to provide more context, timing and details, or is that something you're making known elsewhere?
As an aside, each time we were told what "a good weeks training" the players had before a game last season, I seem to recall that we weren't that good in the games that followed, but that might be my selective memory playing tricks on me.
The club just wanted to keep it under wraps till TS comes over next Wed /Thurs out of respect to Swindon and Garner who has yet to leave the club …
And if thats true, that just makes Sandgaard look even more the naive/arrogant tit he can be.
How does he expect to keep a news story under wraps for a week just so he can be here for the big annoucement, the amount of parties that´ll be invovled and all have to agree to keep it hush hush, so what, we were expecting Swindon to not start talking to other mangers while waiting for flight 101 from colorado? Or are Swindon asking clubs they may be approaching to keep hush hush about it, and in turn, those clubs seeking other mangers asking their target clubs to keep it quiet.
Always feel the need for a cold shower after replying to a colin post SHUDDER
I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.
The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.
I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.
Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
MS certainly tried at least once last season.
This needs context.
If he was at the training ground and saw a lacklustre group of players who were not putting a shift in then he’s more than got a right to ask for more surely?
If he was there to effectively ask JJ to try something different in training then that wouldn’t be on.
For most clubs,the season is over and I should imagine their forums are pretty quiet,never ever the case with us,always ownerships,managers etc to discuss before we know it the new season will be here.
There’s tons of negative stuff on Twitter, but unless it’s from someone genuinely well connected I don’t see the point of posting it on here.
I wish people would chill out a bit. Seems to me that the three main names being mentioned as potential new manager would all be decent fits for us on the face of it. If it’s Garner, great, let’s get behind him and start looking forward to next season.
In case you're not aware Luke Rooney is Mason Burstow's mentor/agent.
Luke Rooney is a 31 year old journeyman footballer who has been named as Glebe's (Chislehurst) new manager in the "Kent League" I saw him play for Erith & Belvedere in a 5-3 defeat to Glebe last season at Welling United's ground in a mid week fixture
Luke Rooney knows Ben Garner and the two coaches and I'm pleased he is redressing the balance of the typical negative reaction of many Cafc fans/critics on social media.
Tutt-Tutt and Swisdom know how the football grapevine works.
My son spoke to a senior player last night. Players know it’s Garner, and have done for the past week. The feeling among the players towards the appointment is positive. I’m surprised, only reporting what I’ve been told.
I don't believe it is true as much as personally I would love it. I think the bloke has unfinished business here. But despite all the spins it is surely going to be Garner and we need to get behind him.
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If Beale is first choice, it's prudent to wait until it's confirmed he's going to QPR before switching to second choice Garner, wouldn't you say?
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Secondly, anyone want to tell him that Jackson's win rate after being named permanent manager was even less......37%.
Swindon advertiser are not denying it.
Are you able to provide more context, timing and details, or is that something you're making known elsewhere?
As an aside, each time we were told what "a good weeks training" the players had before a game last season, I seem to recall that we weren't that good in the games that followed, but that might be my selective memory playing tricks on me.
And if thats true, that just makes Sandgaard look even more the naive/arrogant tit he can be.
How does he expect to keep a news story under wraps for a week just so he can be here for the big annoucement, the amount of parties that´ll be invovled and all have to agree to keep it hush hush, so what, we were expecting Swindon to not start talking to other mangers while waiting for flight 101 from colorado? Or are Swindon asking clubs they may be approaching to keep hush hush about it, and in turn, those clubs seeking other mangers asking their target clubs to keep it quiet.
Always feel the need for a cold shower after replying to a colin post SHUDDER
If he was at the training ground and saw a lacklustre group of players who were not putting a shift in then he’s more than got a right to ask for more surely?
Context please.
Luke Rooney is a 31 year old journeyman footballer who has been named as Glebe's (Chislehurst) new manager in the "Kent League"
I saw him play for Erith & Belvedere in a 5-3 defeat to Glebe last season at Welling United's ground in a mid week fixture
Luke Rooney knows Ben Garner and the two coaches and I'm pleased he is redressing the balance of the typical negative reaction of many Cafc fans/critics on social media.
Tutt-Tutt and Swisdom know how the football grapevine works.