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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • Redhenry said:
    Doubt Garner will sign any of those.. IMHO

    I doubt he has much say
  • Redhenry said:
    Doubt Garner will sign any of those.. IMHO

    Garner might not but does that mean that Thomas/Martin won't?
    Then we’re doomed. If TS is requiring that the club play a brand of football that is attractive and attacking then you have to recognise that having chosen the man to deliver just that you need to allow him to deliver it on his terms. Certainly provide suggestions and options from all means available but presenting a manager with a player that doesn’t fit the playing profile will just waste you money.
  • edited June 2022
    wmcf123 said:
    I wonder why some people trusting TS over Cawley (someone that has for years provided consistently accurate information) on this one . All of a sudden, for some, Cawley is a chancer that doesn’t check his sources and goes with whatever he reads on Twitter .  The blind faith in TS is absolutely baffling .  
    A fair question, Cawley has been wrong in the past, but I believe that he believes his source. No ill will towards him for that. TS is starting to frustrate me a bit now. He is in the UK this week so expect an announcement very soon. 

    If it is Garner I'd expect an explanation of the denials and rebuttals.
  • sam3110 said:
    Redhenry said:
    Doubt Garner will sign any of those.. IMHO

    I doubt he has much say
    He'll have more say than many think. Less than others.
  • Redhenry said:
    Doubt Garner will sign any of those.. IMHO

    Garner might not but does that mean that Thomas/Martin won't?
    Then we’re doomed. If TS is requiring that the club play a brand of football that is attractive and attacking then you have to recognise that having chosen the man to deliver just that you need to allow him to deliver it on his terms. Certainly provide suggestions and options from all means available but presenting a manager with a player that doesn’t fit the playing profile will just waste you money.
    Totally agree. Doesn't mean it will happen though.
  • I've got a feeling , that tonights going to be a good night,
    That tonights going to be a good , good night ,, woo hoo!
  • I expect nothing until the end of the week. 
  • I've got a feeling , that tonights going to be a good night,
    That tonights going to be a good , good night ,, woo hoo!
     Anyone would think we're about to announce Klopp or Guardiola and not some run of the mill ,did ok in league2 manager such is the hyperbole.

    It's quite astounding how far we've fallen!
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  • shirty5 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    I wonder why some people trusting TS over Cawley (someone that has for years provided consistently accurate information) on this one . All of a sudden, for some, Cawley is a chancer that doesn’t check his sources and goes with whatever he reads on Twitter .  The blind faith in TS is absolutely baffling .  
    So, does TS have an agenda that is opposite to what the fans want?  Why would he waste all his time going through a legal battle to gain control of the club, not to mention his money, just to piss off the fans! What purpose would that serve?

    The conspiracy theorists on here are verging on the ridiculous?

    Should we get Mulder and Scully in? 
    Are they both into a low block the 2 you mention? 
    I think they are.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    I wonder why some people trusting TS over Cawley (someone that has for years provided consistently accurate information) on this one . All of a sudden, for some, Cawley is a chancer that doesn’t check his sources and goes with whatever he reads on Twitter .  The blind faith in TS is absolutely baffling .  
    A fair question, Cawley has been wrong in the past, but I believe that he believes his source. No ill will towards him for that. TS is starting to frustrate me a bit now. He is in the UK this week so expect an announcement very soon. 

    If it is Garner I'd expect an explanation of the denials and rebuttals.
    When has Cawley been wrong?
  • Dazzler21 said:
    I expect nothing until the end of the week season. 
    Fixed that for you...
  • Dazzler21 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    I wonder why some people trusting TS over Cawley (someone that has for years provided consistently accurate information) on this one . All of a sudden, for some, Cawley is a chancer that doesn’t check his sources and goes with whatever he reads on Twitter .  The blind faith in TS is absolutely baffling .  
    A fair question, Cawley has been wrong in the past, but I believe that he believes his source. No ill will towards him for that. TS is starting to frustrate me a bit now. He is in the UK this week so expect an announcement very soon. 

    If it is Garner I'd expect an explanation of the denials and rebuttals.
    I thought we agreed it would be better that he said nothing on all matters?
  • The bottom line for me with TS is that his enthusiasm and desire to own a football club clouded the reality realised by countless owners of all clubs before him of just how hard it is to run a football club. Especially in the third teir.
  • I've got a feeling , that tonights going to be a good night,
    That tonights going to be a good , good night ,, woo hoo!
     Anyone would think we're about to announce Klopp or Guardiola and not some run of the mill ,did ok in league2 manager such is the hyperbole.

    It's quite astounding how far we've fallen!
    And also that we should be overjoyed that we have an owner that is doing the minimum an owner should be doing, namely paying the bills and buying some players…
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  • CH4RLTON said:
    ButtleJR said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    I wonder why some people trusting TS over Cawley (someone that has for years provided consistently accurate information) on this one . All of a sudden, for some, Cawley is a chancer that doesn’t check his sources and goes with whatever he reads on Twitter .  The blind faith in TS is absolutely baffling .  
    A fair question, Cawley has been wrong in the past, but I believe that he believes his source. No ill will towards him for that. TS is starting to frustrate me a bit now. He is in the UK this week so expect an announcement very soon. 

    If it is Garner I'd expect an explanation of the denials and rebuttals.
    He's arrived. Should hopefully hear something soon...
    This guy is normally spot on, i’m going to book the rest of the day off work and sit pressing F5 all afternoon :)

    Invest in one of these mate, over time it’ll keep the arthritis at bay 😉
  • ButtleJR said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    I wonder why some people trusting TS over Cawley (someone that has for years provided consistently accurate information) on this one . All of a sudden, for some, Cawley is a chancer that doesn’t check his sources and goes with whatever he reads on Twitter .  The blind faith in TS is absolutely baffling .  
    A fair question, Cawley has been wrong in the past, but I believe that he believes his source. No ill will towards him for that. TS is starting to frustrate me a bit now. He is in the UK this week so expect an announcement very soon. 

    If it is Garner I'd expect an explanation of the denials and rebuttals.
    He's arrived. Should hopefully hear something soon...
    Just to specify I was referring to TS arriving in the UK...
  • I've read, with interest, the last 246 pages of this thread on a regular basis. All the different rumours, some people reading twitter etal and making up their minds it must be true. TS gets hammered for not moving to OUR timescale, then he gets hammered when Garner was first mentioned that we are shopping in Aldi when it should be Waitrose, then as people read up on Garner they then think, oh, this could be a good appt, followed by why are we haggling over compo, why is he not here yet...so on and so forth.
    Next its about Cawley and he has said this and that about Garner.....Club says not agreed.....people asking for a statement of some kind on OS (or from the club), they get one and then say...better to say nothing at all!! Whichever way this cuts, it doesn't seem to matter what TS does, he is dammed if he does and dammed if he doesn't. On a football forum there will always be difference of opinions and that is healthy, but what, in my opinion, is not healthy is the amount of 'vitriol' that TS and his family seem to be getting across social media.
    Yes TS has made mistakes, quite a few tbh, but he has sunk a considerable amount of his own dosh into the club and surely has the right to take his time to get this next appt right?
    However leaving all the above to one-side, I would like to offer a potential reason for the different takes on the Garner situation-:
    Could it be that, as we are taking a manager from another club, the current club, Swindon, have asked for and got an official NDA in place? This would stop TS being able to confirm anything as fact. This NDA could also cover Swindon's ex - DoF and Garners coaches? A local journo from Swindon and Cawley did some digging and announced what they did, but CAFC, and indeed, Swindon Town FC have not confirmed any of it....publicly.
    Swindon may even want to announce themselves, first, that Garner is leaving and at the same time give the name of their new Manager?
    Broken NDA's can be expensive and TS may just be thinking that this money could be spent better than paying out for a breach of an NDA? 
    No-one knows, me included, if the above is right or wrong, but it would explain certain actions. It's no-ones fault, my guess is the Swindon journo and Cawley wanted to get a 99.9% true story out there in the public domain, but all CAFC can do is deny a deal is done, and that could be factual, if we haven't signed up Garners coaches yet.
    Do I think it will be Garner - Yes - do I think he could be a good choice - absolutely - do I think it will be announced this week - Yes, along with his coaches and maybe the DoF.
    As for us supporters, we just need to sit back and see what transpires, BUT biting the hand of the person who feeds you could be a very dangerous course to take. 
    Whether you like it or not, TS owns the club, is trying to sort out the mess that was left by RD, ESI and co. That is not going to happen overnight or 18 months in my opinion, however TS has a BIG season coming up, if he gets it wrong it'll cost him another £8m, get it right and 'happy days' for all.
    The above will not sit well with many on here, but, only time will tell and time is something we all have to wait for.


    If there is a NDA in place then it would have been at TS's insistence not Swindon's. They wanted to go public at least a week ago going by what their chairman said on their OS. 

    Seeing as the players report back for pre-season next friday I'm more worried about the (usual) lack of signings than lack of  a manager. You can play a match without a manager, you cant play without players. 

    But this season was going to be different......wasn't it ??

    Dont worry, Marquis, Aiden O´brien and Bostock will all be unvieled as soon as we annouce Garner (Officially) 


    Even if that did happen it would only be bad business if Marquis was a replacement for Washington or Stockley. If however he was our fourth choice striker who was on the bench instead of Davison then I would say there wouldn't be many teams in L1 who had a better fourth choice option. Similarly, with Bostock, bad business if he were one of the first names on the team sheet but if he took a squad place instead of Morgan for example, then I think it is a good move.


  • That’s easy for you to say.
    He is just summarising what everyone really knows about what's going on!
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