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  • Taylor would be bound to be at least a bit interested in the job, though worth noting that it's not a Chris Powell situation.

    Powell was a club legend "returning home" to the club where he had the strongest bond. Taylor was a decent player for us, but only played 58 games. Indeed he played far more for Exeter
  • JohnnyH2 said:
    I think Matt Taylor was if Jacko's closet mates in the promotion winning squad. Would Taylor come here based on conversations with Jacko based on how it really works behind the scenes here?

    Hope I'm wrong as he would be great appointment 
    My thoughts too.


  • Mark Bonner.

    Discuss.
  • paulfox said:
    I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.

    Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.

    I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
    No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.

    League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.

    But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table
    I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻‍♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.
    He’ll probably join us to cut down on the travelling. 
  • JamesSeed said:
    paulfox said:
    I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.

    Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.

    I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
    No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.

    League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.

    But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table
    I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻‍♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.
    He’ll probably join us to cut down on the travelling. 
    Taylor’s family are based in the North West
  • paulfox said:
    Jints said:
    paulfox said:
    I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.

    Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.

    I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
    No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.

    League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.

    But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table
    I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻‍♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.
    They've never been higher than League 1 and have average attendences below 5,000 most seasons. Lovely club I'm sure but if you're an ambitious manager, Charlton are a much more attractive proposition. 
    And I’m sure you would have been saying the same about Bournemouth for example a while back.  Too much living in the past I’m afraid, as proud as I am of our past, it has to be met with some realism that maybe we are not what we once were. 
    It’s not living in the past, just a bit of common sense 
  • Mark Bonner.

    Discuss.
    For any particular reason?
  • edited May 2022
    Mark Bonner.

    Discuss.
    Based on the new setup at the club, both Mark Bonner and Mark Warburton would make a lot of sense

    Given both Tom Pell and Jon de Souza have worked with each of them respectively elsewhere.

    Given that Tommy Sandgaard is our owner, I think we can rule out any common sense, so can disregard Bonner / Warburton ;)

    I mean we thought that about Roddy / Adkins
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  • edited May 2022
    shirty5 said:
    JamesSeed said:
    paulfox said:
    I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.

    Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.

    I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
    No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.

    League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.

    But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table
    I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻‍♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.
    He’ll probably join us to cut down on the travelling. 
    Taylor’s family are based in the North West
    Not for long ;-)

    [PS ;-) doesn’t me I know something, sadly.]

    Exter must cover more miles on their travels than practically any other club I’m guessing. Apart from Torquay maybe? 
  • edited May 2022
    paulfox said:
    I think you'll find Exeter have never played in The Premier League and aren't owned by a stinking rich owner.
    Are you saying it will never happen for a fact? No you can not.  It could happen to any number of clubs. Bournemouth didn’t always have that rich owner.
    The chances of Exeter City reaching The Premier League is roughly on a par with Charlton getting into The Champions League.
    I presume you think that's likely?
    Man U could be non league in 4 years time and Charlton could be Champions of Europe, blah blah.
  • JamesSeed said:
    shirty5 said:
    JamesSeed said:
    paulfox said:
    I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.

    Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.

    I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
    No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.

    League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.

    But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table
    I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻‍♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.
    He’ll probably join us to cut down on the travelling. 
    Taylor’s family are based in the North West
    Not for long ;-)

    [PS ;-) doesn’t me I know something, sadly.]

    Exter must cover more miles on their travels than practically any other club I’m guessing. Apart from Torquay maybe? 
    Chorley to be exact
  • paulfox said:
    Jints said:
    paulfox said:
    I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.

    Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.

    I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
    No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.

    League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.

    But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table
    I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻‍♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.
    They've never been higher than League 1 and have average attendences below 5,000 most seasons. Lovely club I'm sure but if you're an ambitious manager, Charlton are a much more attractive proposition. 
    And I’m sure you would have been saying the same about Bournemouth for example a while back.  Too much living in the past I’m afraid, as proud as I am of our past, it has to be met with some realism that maybe we are not what we once were. 
    It’s not living in the past, just a bit of common sense 
    Common sense is conspicuous by it's absence.
  • JamesSeed said:
    shirty5 said:
    JamesSeed said:
    paulfox said:
    I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.

    Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.

    I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
    No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.

    League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.

    But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table
    I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻‍♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.
    He’ll probably join us to cut down on the travelling. 
    Taylor’s family are based in the North West
    Not for long ;-)

    [PS ;-) doesn’t me I know something, sadly.]

    Exter must cover more miles on their travels than practically any other club I’m guessing. Apart from Torquay maybe? 
    Plymouth?
    .
  • Mark has a Boner.

    Discuss.
    😬
  • Mark Bonner.

    Discuss.
    On 10 May 2021, Bonner signed a new 3-year contract with the club.

    So TS would have to pay out to get him. Doesn’t rule MB out I guess 
  • Mark Bonner.

    Discuss.
    Don’t know much about Bonner but appears to have done a pretty good job. One promotion and kept them up in a division they were expected to struggle in. I can see why he might be of interest after the Pell appointment today. 
  • Scoham said:
    paulfox said:
    Jints said:
    paulfox said:
    I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.

    Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.

    I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
    No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.

    League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.

    But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table
    I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻‍♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.
    They've never been higher than League 1 and have average attendences below 5,000 most seasons. Lovely club I'm sure but if you're an ambitious manager, Charlton are a much more attractive proposition. 
    And I’m sure you would have been saying the same about Bournemouth for example a while back.  Too much living in the past I’m afraid, as proud as I am of our past, it has to be met with some realism that maybe we are not what we once were. 
    Bournemouth had a rich ambitious owner funding them. There will be plenty of examples of managers leaving smaller League 1 clubs for the bigger clubs in the division, regardless of whether that bigger club finished mid table. Managers think they’ll be the one to turn them around. And if the club has been a basket case in recent seasons then they have an ideal excuse if it doesn’t happen.
    My original point was, it’s unfair to disregard Exeter from progressing up the ladder because they are a small club, we were not loaded when we went up with curbs and regarded as not being that large a club. Just because we have had relative success quite a while ago now, we should not expect a lower league manager to think it’s a great upward progression. The loling on here because someone doesn’t agree is becoming fucking rediculous, disagreeing is fine, but if it makes people feel better the fill ya boots.🤣
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  • paulfox said:
    Scoham said:
    paulfox said:
    Jints said:
    paulfox said:
    I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.

    Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.

    I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
    No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.

    League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.

    But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table
    I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻‍♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.
    They've never been higher than League 1 and have average attendences below 5,000 most seasons. Lovely club I'm sure but if you're an ambitious manager, Charlton are a much more attractive proposition. 
    And I’m sure you would have been saying the same about Bournemouth for example a while back.  Too much living in the past I’m afraid, as proud as I am of our past, it has to be met with some realism that maybe we are not what we once were. 
    Bournemouth had a rich ambitious owner funding them. There will be plenty of examples of managers leaving smaller League 1 clubs for the bigger clubs in the division, regardless of whether that bigger club finished mid table. Managers think they’ll be the one to turn them around. And if the club has been a basket case in recent seasons then they have an ideal excuse if it doesn’t happen.
    My original point was, it’s unfair to disregard Exeter from progressing up the ladder because they are a small club, we were not loaded when we went up with curbs and regarded as not being that large a club. Just because we have had relative success quite a while ago now, we should not expect a lower league manager to think it’s a great upward progression. The loling on here because someone doesn’t agree is becoming fucking rediculous, disagreeing is fine, but if it makes people feel better the fill ya boots.🤣
    So, genuinely you do not believe leaving Exeter for Charlton would be a step up?
  • Redhenry said:
    after watching that clip, i want Warburton...
    I think we’re going to get him.

    Ticks boxes, experience, plays attacking football, London based, out of work so easier to get.  If I had to have a punt on it.
  • Sandgaard finally reveals himself as an undercover agent for Roland and appoints Guy Luzon.
    Other than Riga he was perhaps my favourite of the worst bunch. Batshit crazy mins you 
  • Mark Bonner.

    Discuss.
    Hard one, that.
  • Mark Bonner.

    Discuss.
    Hard one, that.
    Could face some stiff competition for him. 
  • paulfox said:
    Scoham said:
    paulfox said:
    Jints said:
    paulfox said:
    I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.

    Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.

    I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
    No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.

    League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.

    But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table
    I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻‍♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.
    They've never been higher than League 1 and have average attendences below 5,000 most seasons. Lovely club I'm sure but if you're an ambitious manager, Charlton are a much more attractive proposition. 
    And I’m sure you would have been saying the same about Bournemouth for example a while back.  Too much living in the past I’m afraid, as proud as I am of our past, it has to be met with some realism that maybe we are not what we once were. 
    Bournemouth had a rich ambitious owner funding them. There will be plenty of examples of managers leaving smaller League 1 clubs for the bigger clubs in the division, regardless of whether that bigger club finished mid table. Managers think they’ll be the one to turn them around. And if the club has been a basket case in recent seasons then they have an ideal excuse if it doesn’t happen.
    My original point was, it’s unfair to disregard Exeter from progressing up the ladder because they are a small club, we were not loaded when we went up with curbs and regarded as not being that large a club. Just because we have had relative success quite a while ago now, we should not expect a lower league manager to think it’s a great upward progression. The loling on here because someone doesn’t agree is becoming fucking rediculous, disagreeing is fine, but if it makes people feel better the fill ya boots.🤣
    So, genuinely you do not believe leaving Exeter for Charlton would be a step up?
    I’ve not once said that, simply playing devils advocate,I’m saying it’s not as much as a big pull as it once may have been, there are a lot of people on here telling us TS doesn’t know what he’s doing, so based on that why would someone want to leave the stability of an improving side and the potential of another,  good season off the back of promotion that isn’t unusual to see. I really doesn’t matter what I believe the proof will be in the pudding next season, however you are welcome to think,what ever I believe to suit your narrative. It doesn’t matter how big a club we think we may be if we keep losing 20 odd games in league 1. 
  • paulfox said:
    paulfox said:
    I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.

    Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.

    I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
    No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.

    League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.

    But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table
    I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻‍♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.
    What rose tinted glasses... I didnt even mention us in that post? 

    I'm just basing my opinion on what Exeter have achieved in the past, combined with the fact they're fan owned - If they can get promoted to the Championship then they'll have done an excellent job, but I'd be surprised if they achieved it.
    You were eluding to the fact as I read it, that a move to us would be a step up, I was merely playing devils advocate and saying that maybe we see ourselves above others unnecessarily now.

  • Exeter City have never been higher than L1/D3 in their history.
    They have spent the vast majority of their history in L2.
    Charlton have played in The Premier League and D1 and have won the FA Cup.
    Charlton have never played in L2.
    Moving to Charlton would obviously be a step up, end of story, unless you think Exeter are on a par with Charlton, Sunderland, Sheff W, Ipswich, Portsmouth etc.
    They are temporarily in the same division, nothing more and nothing less.
    You may as well say Brentford to Liverpool or Man U wouldn't be a step up.
    Brentford to Man U wouldn’t be a step up, it’s career suicide with those players.  I’d stay in west london!
  • paulfox said:
    paulfox said:
    I rate Matt Taylor an Exeter play an expansive attacking game which fits with the direction TS wants to go in.

    Whenever Taylor is interviewed he speaks well and seems to have his head screwed on.

    I suspect it might be tricky to get him as he we will probably want to "finish" what he has started with Exeter.
    No disrespect to Exeter but could argue he has finished what he's started.

    League One is really their ceiling level - He's done a great job getting them back at this level.

    But think if he stays, the best he can do with them is mid-table
    I’d say that’s completely disrespectful, are you saying Exeter can’t go up any further? If so why on earth not?, I’m afraid you maybe need to take off the rose tinted glasses where we are concerned. There could be an argument that they are on the way up passing us on the way down.🤷🏻‍♂️. I’m not an Exeter fan for the record!!😂. Just not sure of our attraction level to people outside of Charlton.
    What rose tinted glasses... I didnt even mention us in that post? 

    I'm just basing my opinion on what Exeter have achieved in the past, combined with the fact they're fan owned - If they can get promoted to the Championship then they'll have done an excellent job, but I'd be surprised if they achieved it.
    You were eluding to the fact as I read it, that a move to us would be a step up, I was merely playing devils advocate and saying that maybe we see ourselves above others unnecessarily now.

    Ok what’s your point, twice I’ve said I was playing devils advocate maybe you chose not to see that.covered I couldn’t give flying f:-k if you agree or not, it’s a discussion, if you find satisfaction in just digging people out then you enjoy yourself on my behalf. We probably won’t even see Taylor, until his team are pulling our pants down anyway. So all this bollox would have been for nothing anyway.👍
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