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My concern over Emma Hayes is that outside of Arsenal and City (and Utd to a lesser extent) the quality of opposition is quite bad. Even though they got to a European final, they still seem a level below the elite in Europe.JamesSeed said:
Not totally different, imho, just less physical, and a little slower. But the gap has narrowed over the last ten years and will continue to do so. It’ll never be exactly the same as men’s though, but not 100% sure if that matters.LargeAddick said:
Whenever I have seen her as a pundit she has made a lot of valid points and was very insightful and talked a lot of sense most of which I agreed with. She has also been very successful. However there is something about her I don’t like, just like there is something I don’t like about Lee Johnson for example. Nothing to do with gender.Garrymanilow said:I wonder how many of the people dismissing Hayes as an option have any idea who she is, what her management style is like, what her tactical preference is, how she handles man management etc. Or are some just saying no because they saw a women's game on TV 6 years ago and decided they didn't like it? I reckon I can guess.
I wouldn’t have an issue with a woman manager as long as she was the best candidate for the job and not just a tick box exercise.
I disagree with someone earlier saying Hayes should be looking for a Championship job. The women’s game is, in my opinion, totally different to the men’s game and she needs to earn her stripes as it were.
I wonder how she'd cope against much more experienced managers in a more competitive league, it'll be interesting to see how she gets on when she does get a job in the men's game. I feel like league 1 would be a fair enough level for her
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I thought it was Hannibal Hayes and Kid Currie ? or am i missing something?Dazzler21 said:So if my catching up is right, we're signing Zlatan and Pep will be manager.0 -
Very narrow minded comment there. Do you assume that your opinions are clearly superior that you think anybody in disagreement must be a bigot or misinformed?Garrymanilow said:I wonder how many of the people dismissing Hayes as an option have any idea who she is, what her management style is like, what her tactical preference is, how she handles man management etc. Or are some just saying no because they saw a women's game on TV 6 years ago and decided they didn't like it? I reckon I can guess.
Speaking as someone against the idea of Hayes as an option, having managed various teams of men and women I know in order to be an effective leader you have to manage people differently and men/women especially often require very different approaches. Emma has clearly proven herself in the womens game and as a good leader amongst women, that has not yet been proven the mens. I’d personally rather us not be the test of that considering how dire our last few years have been.11 -
No idea who we’re going to get as not ITK.At this point in time I don’t actually care who we get. What I do care about is that whoever it ends up being, is brought in soon, gets a decent crack at a pre-season and is backed by TS longer than it takes for them (to cover all bases) to start being attacked by our wonderful* fan base.
This outgoing season was pants. Like every CAFC fan I am a knowingly masochistic optimist and look forward to every new season with hope and, in most years, entirely unjustified, belief.
The new manager, for me, doesn’t have to have played for us earlier in their career. They don’t have to be an international or Premier League megastar. I will be happy with someone who can both operate with a plan whilst not being afraid, or incapable, of changing the plan if things aren’t going the way we want.
I suspect I’m not the only one just hoping for an early announcement and a chance for a good season. We didn’t in any way deserve it last year but I’d love to see us out of this tier. We don’t deserve any more as our performances dictated we ended up where we did but our misfortune with owners over the years pre TS means we surely can’t be chagrined for expecting a turn in luck.COYA and get us some news to gee us all up ASAP.
* I don’t think we’re any worse than any other fan base but the fear, melancholia and utter divorce from reality over TS’ actions sometimes make for poor reading.0 -
Emma Hayes had always impressed me -but not a fan of her comments today whinging about the sanctions Chelsea have had to suffer (because they were owned by a super-rich thieving oligarch). My words in brackets.3
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Yeah Golfie is incredibly old fashioned not wanting a female manager. He needs to get with modern times. Oh hang on, there's currently zero female managers of the 92 league clubs, he is with modern times.Dazzler21 said:
I mean seriously. It's 2022 and we still have people (Golfie) thinking in a very old fashioned way about the opposite sex. Says more about their thinking imo.3 -
Exeter planning for life after Taylor?Taggy - Julian Tagg
Tissy - Paul Tisdale1 -
No inside info but confident we’ll find out this week.8
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I am not averse to a woman manager in principle, I just don't see any candidates at the moment I would like to manage us. Emma Hayes would be the closest and could work but I don't think the league she manages in is that strong yet although it is clearly growing. Somebody will have to be the first and take the risk however, and it could pay off.2
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I’d take Taylor from Exeter or Warburton. I think Warburton is more current than Adkins was when we got him and has recently been managing at a higher level. Providing the internal structure of however we do our recruitment is something he can live with. The same goes for Taylor. I think the fact Taylor’s plied his trade and learnt on the job and had success with Exeter is a good thing. I would even go so far as to argue it makes him a better candidate than Jackson.
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Met a QPR fan in a pub yesterday who said he was at their last game and it was a really strange atmosphere. Whole crowd singing his name and noone wants him to go1
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A manager from the play-offs?J BLOCK said:No inside info but confident we’ll find out this week.0 -
Not that any of this really means anything but you missed off this tweet which seems important if this chap is ITK:Callumcafc said:Exeter planning for life after Taylor?Taggy - Julian Tagg
Tissy - Paul Tisdale
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Funny isn't it a lot of people would have taken Tissy a few years ago.FishCostaFortune said:
Not that any of this really means anything but you missed off this tweet which seems important if this chap is ITK:Callumcafc said:Exeter planning for life after Taylor?Taggy - Julian Tagg
Tissy - Paul Tisdale1 -
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Now was the Taylor rumour put out there to try and force Michael's hand
Or has the Beale rumour been put out there to try and force Taylor's hand
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Hopefully the lure of coming back to Charlton (given he's a fan) will give us an advantage over Championship clubs.
Of course this could equally be Sandgaard using the press to say: "Look I tried to get the Manager you wanted, but he didnt want to leave Villa, or wanted to wait for the Championship interest" - When he didnt in fact try very hard to get him
God I'm a cynical bastard at times.5 - Sponsored links:
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Equally this could be why its taking so long.
Aston Villa's season doesn't end until next Sunday
But then I'm still clutching at straws
Only thing I wonder is whether the likes of Aston Villa or Exeter appreciate the fact that we're name dropping their staff to the press.1 -
That basically makes it sound like Beale is the talent in that partnership, whilst Stevie G is the front man.The Red Robin said:
It is also the kind of thing the club would want put out before they announce him, not saying it is close or even going to happen (never have been and never will be ITK).2 -
Gerrard and Beale has the same feel to it as Clough and Taylor.cfgs said:
That basically makes it sound like Beale is the talent in that partnership, whilst Stevie G is the front man.The Red Robin said:
It is also the kind of thing the club would want put out before they announce him, not saying it is close or even going to happen (never have been and never will be ITK).0 -
Beale can take the job and still finish the season with Villa, like Ten-Hag did at Ajax.
He certainly does come with glowing references and I think it would be a decent appointment. Think Taylor just pips its for me personally though.2 -
Please be Beale. I wanted him before Jacko. Everything I’ve ever heard about him has been positive.14
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I think someone like Beale, Carrick or Euell would be a much better fit into the system Thomas is trying to implement than someone like Warburton or Taylor.
The more I read about Warburton the more I really like him but the more I think it would be an absolute disaster and he would be gone by Christmas.3 -
Beale might also appeal to TS because Jason Euell and other support staff already in post like Glyn Shimell, could remain. Beale won’t have a coaching set-up from managing a previous club.
Matt Taylor has. Wayne Carlisle, Kevin Nicholson and Scott Brown are very much Taylor’s team, who you’d imagine he’d want to bring with him.1 -
"But Beale is also thought to be in the running for Championship vacancies this summer"
What vacancies are there currently? QPR obviously, is Paul Ince the Reading manager of just a caretaker?
Any other clubs?1 -
BurnleyChris_from_Sidcup said:"But Beale is also thought to be in the running for Championship vacancies this summer"
What vacancies are there currently? QPR obviously, is Paul Ince the Reading manager of just a caretaker?
Any other clubs?
BlackburnBirmingham could be soon0 -
Which makes the appointment of the development coach even more strange. Appointing Taylor and only Taylor would be the worst of both worlds.Valley11 said:Beale might also appeal to TS because Jason Euell and other support staff already in post like Glyn Shimell, could remain. Beale won’t have a coaching set-up from managing a previous club.
Matt Taylor has. Wayne Carlisle, Kevin Nicholson and Scott Brown are very much Taylor’s team, who you’d imagine he’d want to bring with him.1
