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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)
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Would he not know Euell from his playing days, they were both here in 2011-12?Cafc43v3r said:
Which makes the appointment of the development coach even more strange. Appointing Taylor and only Taylor would be the worst of both worlds.Valley11 said:Beale might also appeal to TS because Jason Euell and other support staff already in post like Glyn Shimell, could remain. Beale won’t have a coaching set-up from managing a previous club.
Matt Taylor has. Wayne Carlisle, Kevin Nicholson and Scott Brown are very much Taylor’s team, who you’d imagine he’d want to bring with him.1 -
Got to be something like this. Releasing to the press does seem like a move from a position of weakness sadly.ForeverAddickted said:Now was the Taylor rumour put out there to try and force Michael's hand
Or has the Beale rumour been put out there to try and force Taylor's hand
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Put a smile on my face as the first sentence reminded me of the classic ‘Yes Prime Minister’ on introducing women into the top posts in the Civil Service.MuttleyCAFC said:I am not averse to a woman manager in principle, I just don't see any candidates at the moment I would like to manage us. Emma Hayes would be the closest and could work but I don't think the league she manages in is that strong yet although it is clearly growing. Somebody will have to be the first and take the risk however, and it could pay off.1 -
Well, MS said at the weekend they have been busy interviewing managers.
So maybe they have narrowed the long list down to a short list or even a list of one.
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He does know him but that's not the point.Hal1x said:
Would he not know Euell from his playing days, they were both here in 2011-12?Cafc43v3r said:
Which makes the appointment of the development coach even more strange. Appointing Taylor and only Taylor would be the worst of both worlds.Valley11 said:Beale might also appeal to TS because Jason Euell and other support staff already in post like Glyn Shimell, could remain. Beale won’t have a coaching set-up from managing a previous club.
Matt Taylor has. Wayne Carlisle, Kevin Nicholson and Scott Brown are very much Taylor’s team, who you’d imagine he’d want to bring with him.0 -
Been saying that .. he will want a break of some sort so if it’s him could be another 2/3 weeks before an appointmentForeverAddickted said:Equally this could be why its taking so long.
Aston Villa's season doesn't end until next Sunday
But then I'm still clutching at straws
Only thing I wonder is whether the likes of Aston Villa or Exeter appreciate the fact that we're name dropping their staff to the press.1 -
But then as King Addick says... Man Utd got ten Hag before the Ajax season was over.RonnieMoore said:
Been saying that .. he will want a break of some sort so if it’s him could be another 2/3 weeks before an appointmentForeverAddickted said:Equally this could be why its taking so long.
Aston Villa's season doesn't end until next Sunday
But then I'm still clutching at straws
Only thing I wonder is whether the likes of Aston Villa or Exeter appreciate the fact that we're name dropping their staff to the press.1 -
I would prefer Taylor over Beale because Taylor will be far more knowledgeable about the League 1 & 2 best players where we are likely to be fishing.
if we go with Beale, it puts more emphasis on the player recruitment department's capabilities ( Martin Sandgaard etc -a little worrying) and loan players from the Prem2 -
4pm today was my prediction.
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I know this sounds double Dutch ?
Frank de Boer and Ronald de Boer.
Frank's ambition to play entertaining football in South London remains a true ambition and this isn't Peter Pan in never Netherlands. This is a man who hates Palace for not giving him time and refuses to play Boering football.
Not about money, but about cleaning up Charlton Athletic who were left with dirty stains after Southall and co left skid marks that lingers.
Frank and Ronald would use the Ajax brand to give CAFC a bright future.
We would see double with the De Boer twins; (buy one, get one free) auto Promotion and Wembley winners in the Papa John's trophy- not in four seasons but one.
The futures bright, The futures Orange.
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I wonder if we did get Beale if there’s a better chance that with his coaching credentials teams will be more willing to loan us some of their talented players above other teams.alburyaddick said:I would prefer Taylor over Beale because Taylor will be far more knowledgeable about the League 1 & 2 best players where we are likely to be fishing.
if we go with Beale, it puts more emphasis on the player recruitment department's capabilities ( Martin Sandgaard etc -a little worrying) and loan players from the Prem6 -
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Suggests it’s Beale’s agent putting the story out there then. Probably using us to get a better job.4
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Where is Cawley getting the story from then? 🤔3
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Would explain the line about Championship interestThe Red Robin said:Suggests it’s Beale’s agent putting the story out there then. Probably using us to get a better job.
Is that to get Championship clubs interested - Or is it a message to Sandgaard to re-think his wage offer.3 -
I can't quote verbatim but Thomas Sandgaard saying despite Michael Beale being a good coach Cafc are looking for a more ambitious appointment. I believe that is known as burning your Bridges.
This was said after Nigel Adkins left.
Michael Beale as manager/coach with a "director of football/general manager" so Michael can concentrate on the football Tatics would show ambition to build a club's DNA or find it ! and was on my short list for sure.
Beale may only be called assistant coach but Stevie G, loves his input and are still in the process of creating Villa's identity and they can only keep improving with the signing of Coutinho.6 -
Emma Hayes is far too Chelsea for me, want nothing to do with that pond scum club0
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Agents, other journalists, other contacts in the game such as players, coaches, ex-players, Beale himself?balham red said:Where is Cawley getting the story from then? 🤔
Plenty of possible sources.5 -
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We have Gallen and currently Jason to know the division. Getting in the best coach that’s possible is the most important thing.alburyaddick said:I would prefer Taylor over Beale because Taylor will be far more knowledgeable about the League 1 & 2 best players where we are likely to be fishing.
if we go with Beale, it puts more emphasis on the player recruitment department's capabilities ( Martin Sandgaard etc -a little worrying) and loan players from the Prem0 -
Surprised to see people think Beale wouldn't leave Premier League Villa as it's a good job etc.
Mckenna left Man Utd to take up his first managerial role... why wouldn't Beale leave Villa?10 -
A but different though McKenna (and Carrick) weren't part of the package they were "left overs" from the previous managers. Beale specifically moved jobs twice to go with Stevie G MBE.Addick_8 said:Confused as to why people think he wouldn't leave Premier League Villa as it's a good job etc.
Mckenna left Man Utd to take up his first managerial role... why wouldn't Beale leave Villa?1 -
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@vfrf - why would a woman managing a group of male footballers be any different to a woman managing a group of male accountants, doctors, bank staff, bakers etcVfrf said:
Sure, if it is just a coach you're looking for. Managers tend to have more over-arching duties including handling personal issues, dressing somebody down when necessary, there are natural differences between the characters or women vs men. Maybe when this particular change happens in English football it will be a success, jury is still out for me on whether a woman in charge would be able to reign in 20+ young men all with bags of banter and attitude, having to retain that level of respect at the helm.ShootersHillGuru said:
Can’t see why. Coaching and good ideas for football are not the preserve of men. I don’t see a problem. We’re not asking her to go in goal are we.golfaddick said:Ok, I'll bite.
No , I do not want a woman managing the men's team.
Ok, I've said it. So sue me.
There's every chance Emma would come in and be a success, but as we haven't seen a female manager in the mens English game yet, I for one would rather us not be the guinea pig of this particular social experiment considering how wide apart the women's game currently is from the mens.
There is absolutely no difference in managing a women's team to managing a men's team.2 -
No idea why but I don’t think it’ll be Beale, Taylor or Warburton.0
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Wouldn't say they were leftovers. They were kept on even after Ole left (Carrick chose to leave) but Mckenna was a first-team coach under Ragnick so was part of the coaching set-up still.Cafc43v3r said:
A but different though McKenna (and Carrick) weren't part of the package they were "left overs" from the previous managers. Beale specifically moved jobs twice to go with Stevie G MBE.Addick_8 said:Confused as to why people think he wouldn't leave Premier League Villa as it's a good job etc.
Mckenna left Man Utd to take up his first managerial role... why wouldn't Beale leave Villa?
Beale following Gerrard from Rangers to Villa is a given, he wouldn't have stayed at Rangers when there's a guaranteed job for him at Villa.2 -
But they weren't Ragnick's men, so to speak, and there was no guarantee that they would still be there next season as yet another manager comes in, wanting to bring his own people in. Part of the decision for McKenna to leave was probably timing. None of that applies to Beale currently.Addick_8 said:
Wouldn't say they were leftovers. They were kept on even after Ole left (Carrick chose to leave) but Mckenna was a first-team coach under Ragnick so was part of the coaching set-up still.Cafc43v3r said:
A but different though McKenna (and Carrick) weren't part of the package they were "left overs" from the previous managers. Beale specifically moved jobs twice to go with Stevie G MBE.Addick_8 said:Confused as to why people think he wouldn't leave Premier League Villa as it's a good job etc.
Mckenna left Man Utd to take up his first managerial role... why wouldn't Beale leave Villa?
Beale following Gerrard from Rangers to Villa is a given, he wouldn't have stayed at Rangers when there's a guaranteed job for him at Villa.0 -
Found this to be slightly muggy to Beale - “He has a fantastic track record, especially on the supporting side,” said Sandgaard at the time. “Of course we talked to Michael. We’ve also been a little more ambitious than that, in terms of the level of managers we’ve been reaching for.”ButtleJR said:4 -
Also very obnoxiousPelling1993 said:Emma Hayes is far too Chelsea for me, want nothing to do with that pond scum club2
