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  • Does anyone know how Leicester got their setup so right all those years ago?
    Walsh as chief scout and lots of money for the football league.
    That and it took them ages and a very big pile of money to get it right.  
  • seth plum said:
    I am not sure what Martin Sandgaard does, or any detail at all as to why he is disparaged, although I am sure people will reasonably say others could do whatever MS is supposed to do much better, but beyond that what damage to good stuff balance is there?
    I certainly don’t know.
    However what does make sense to me is Thomas Sandgaard having somebody in location he can trust, and to be honest I don’t blame him.

    Appreciate your thoughts Seth but its not about trust it’s nepotism and it’s bonkers. Yes he can do what he likes it’s his money but it’s pure wrong for our football club.
  • I see Barnsley have approached Cheltenham Town for their manager Michael Duff
    So that means JFH back on the list 
  • edited May 2022
    seth plum said:
    I am not sure what Martin Sandgaard does, or any detail at all as to why he is disparaged, although I am sure people will reasonably say others could do whatever MS is supposed to do much better, but beyond that what damage to good stuff balance is there?
    I certainly don’t know.
    However what does make sense to me is Thomas Sandgaard having somebody in location he can trust, and to be honest I don’t blame him.

    Appreciate your thoughts Seth but its not about trust it’s nepotism and it’s bonkers. Yes he can do what he likes it’s his money but it’s pure wrong for our football club.
    Yes it is clearly nepotism.
    Whether looking at the bigger picture it is wrong is more complicated.
    Maybe TS is worried about who he can trust.
    Wasn’t there some post recently about staff members acting differently when TS is around compared to when he is in Colorado?
  • The point surely is do we know what the guy does ? I personally doubt he is running our recruitment but I dont know. We seem to love a target on here, AKA GED Roddy etc without really knowing the facts. Talking of which (not being controversial) what happened to Roddy the left back is he still with us ? Did we ever find out if he was Geds son ?
  • I think Taylor will fancy a shot at L1 with Exeter rather than us next season.  I suspect that by now we are looking at 2nd or 3rd choices and panic is starting to set in.
  • edited May 2022
    Bob Bradley! I would actually love that
  • When do the players report back for training?
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  • I think Taylor will fancy a shot at L1 with Exeter rather than us next season.  I suspect that by now we are looking at 2nd or 3rd choices and panic is starting to set in.
    If his wages are doubled then I think he would walk all the way to SE7 to sign a contract. 
  • Freddie Ljungberg 

    Pros

    Scandi

    At 45 still relatively young

    Coached and played at top level

    Was interim manager at Arsenal for a few games

    Knows London and married to  a Londoner

    Available and wants to be a manager 

    Had red hair and a song the Covered End can adapt.

    Good contacts in game.



    Cons

    Doesn't know league 1

    Has been out of the game for two years

    Youth and U23s coaching experience but little first team management 

    "Freddie Ljungberg's Charlton Athletic"

    Discuss
  • I think Taylor will fancy a shot at L1 with Exeter rather than us next season.  I suspect that by now we are looking at 2nd or 3rd choices and panic is starting to set in.
    We’re not the 1st and won’t be the last,not  to get there no.1 target, in fact absolutely nobody on here knows who our top target is. I’m pretty sure that’s why there is an interviewing process, as it may turn out our no.1 target doesn’t impress with they’re ideas, TS isn’t going to come out and say welcome pep, but we’d rather have got klopp as he was top of the list. He will eventually choose who he wants with the knowledge that they want to be successful with us. 
  • I think Taylor will fancy a shot at L1 with Exeter rather than us next season.  I suspect that by now we are looking at 2nd or 3rd choices and panic is starting to set in.
    Bloody hell, that's an incredible bleak conclusion to draw from - checking my notes here - no information at all!
    Yes, feeling quite bleak based on the timescales.  Last summer there just seemed to be no sense of urgency at all about getting a good squad together and this feels like rinse and repeat.
  • AndyG said:
    The point surely is do we know what the guy does ? I personally doubt he is running our recruitment but I dont know. We seem to love a target on here, AKA GED Roddy etc without really knowing the facts. Talking of which (not being controversial) what happened to Roddy the left back is he still with us ? Did we ever find out if he was Geds son ?
    Jacob Roddy is Ged Roddy's son. He is still shown on the Under 23s team page but got injured.
  • Freddie Ljungberg 

    Pros

    Scandi

    At 45 still relatively young

    Coached and played at top level

    Was interim manager at Arsenal for a few games

    Knows London and married to  a Londoner

    Available and wants to be a manager 

    Had red hair and a song the Covered End can adapt.

    Good contacts in game.



    Cons

    Doesn't know league 1

    Has been out of the game for two years

    Youth and U23s coaching experience but little first team management 

    "Freddie Ljungberg's Charlton Athletic"

    Discuss
    You have done it for us.
  • edited May 2022
    I'd employ my son if I was TS. He needs somebody he can trust in there I suspect. I think it is crazy us focusing on MS as anything more than that. 
    I totally agree, in principle. 

    We have people come on here, and other places, and say he isn't in charge of anything other than using some software.  They maybe right.

    However my biggest gripe over the last year has been the recruitment.  Everything else is either a distraction or because the recruitment is shit. 

    Why in God's name is Thomas pedling the narrative that Martin is in charge of recruitment.  He even says he is out scouting players because you can't trust the data alone.

    Martin is either in charge of recruitment and Thomas is an idiot.  Or Martin isn't and Thomas is an idiot for making us believe he is.  Either way it's not a good look. 

    Does it undo the good things he has done, probably not but it's totally avoidable either way. 
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  • Ljungberg isn't a daft suggestion , could see him being someone that's maybe applied actually. Don't know a lot about how he is as a coach/manager bar a short spell at Wolfsburg. 
  • edited May 2022
    Nepotism is showing favouritism to a relation not the fact that you employ them.

    I don't know Martin Sandgaard or what his skill set really is BUT I do know that the players or certain players felt Martin didn't have the experience to make football related decisions. It is the perception from the dressing room but he may be excellent and superb in the job he have fallen into; time will tell ?

    We had the "boy in his bedroom" Thomas D, so nothing new at Cafc.
    And that's the problem isn't it?  People now believe the rumour and innuendo, in part, because it matches the narrative that Thomas describes.

    It totally undermines the manager if the players know, or even think, that it's actually Martin they need to show their loyalty to. 
  • The players need to show loyalty to the fans and the accumulation of points.
  • Hibs were after Jon Dahl Tommason before they got Lee Johnston. Apparently they could not agree terms.
    Scandinavia connections. Possible? 
  • When do the players report back for training?
    I'm not 100% certain but think Chuks said 16th June at the POTY dinner.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Nepotism is showing favouritism to a relation not the fact that you employ them.

    I don't know Martin Sandgaard or what his skill set really is BUT I do know that the players or certain players felt Martin didn't have the experience to make football related decisions. It is the perception from the dressing room but he may be excellent and superb in the job he have fallen into; time will tell ?

    We had the "boy in his bedroom" Thomas D, so nothing new at Cafc.
    And that's the problem isn't it?  People now believe the rumour and innuendo, in part, because it matches the narrative that Thomas describes.

    It totally undermines the manager if the players know, or even think, that it's actually Martin they need to show their loyalty to. 

    Players are young guys who get close to the coaches, Player liaison officer ( Tracey) agents and some with the manager but not normally owners and their families. 
    A difficult situation that I hope works out for all our sakes.
  • When do the players report back for training?
    I'm not 100% certain but think Chuks said 16th June at the POTY dinner.
    Cheers Fanny!
  • Ties in with my 15th June prediction  :*
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