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+++Conor McGrandles (2024 edit - Rejoins Lincoln page 23)+++
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Always said there was a player in there, has done well at this level with a couple of different clubs. He has been unlucky with injuries, has not really had a chance when he was fit due to the form of the midfield two/three.
He hasn’t sulked, gone out on loan to play football. Had a good pre season, looks sharp and strong.
I was scratching my head a bit with his celebrations at Pompey, but it was evident that he didn’t feel wanted by the fans. This is clear with the other players as they urged him to go and show those that have said some things that aren’t fair on the guy as he hasn’t had an opportunity to show what he is capable of.
No doubt there were those that I am sure would come forward that doubted Dobson’s ability before he became the golden boy of SE7.
Give the bloke a chance, stop snipping and give him some encouragement,
I have seen a lot worse down there over the years.
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The bottom line is that if McGrandles turns out to be the player that Appleton thinks he can be then that will save the club taking a chance on a loanee or spending money at this level which is an even greater gamble. There are other areas that in the squad that could be addressed if Conor fills the gap in midfield.7
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ZzzzzzzShowmetheway2gohome said:Well done mcCrappy his first performance where he actually looked like he can play football.Thought it was laughable how people gave him 7.5 + in marks for cray valley match
but looked like he could improve last night. Hopefully be calling him Mcgreaty one day still hope for Kirk yet then still3 -
Covered_End_Lad said:
Or alternatively we could stop altogether with the stupid nicknames for players? A&Eke being the most moronic closely followed by McCrappy.Showmetheway2gohome said:Well done mcCrappy his first performance where he actually looked like he can play football.Thought it was laughable how people gave him 7.5 + in marks for cray valley match
but looked like he could improve last night. Hopefully be calling him Mcgreaty one day still hope for Kirk yet then still
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I really like him as a player. He doesn’t stand out but that’s fine, with Dobson and a more creative player around him he’ll slot in well. As someone said a while ago, he cuts out a lot of stuff before it would get to Dobson needing a crunching tackle which would let Dobson play with the ball more2
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Man of the match for me... Great all-round performance. He looks like he can do a bit of everything.
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lol the U-Turn's on McGrandles. If he keeps the form going fair enough, but I am not totally sold as yet.3
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How long is left on McGrandles contract? Has he got a year and a half left? Would love for him to start putting in performances consistently, would take pressure off Dobson and on our recruitment to find back-up, and on the finances of the club as well. Seems like a Win for all parties.
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If he gets better and returns to the better form Appleton refers to, that he’s shown elsewhere, he’ll be a better player than what we’ve seen in his fleeting appearances for us .
We’ve had some great amazing players in this 4 season run in the third tier , just can’t believe we’re still in this division
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Still has a lot to prove, and is going the right way about it, certainly isn't a starter for me at the moment, but he is a good player to step in.. These cup games have come at a good time for some of our players, get some minutes and prove a point.. Unfortunately players like McGrandles need minutes to get up to speed, and the lack of reserve team football has an impact!3
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Showmetheway2gohome said:Well done mcCrappy his first performance where he actually looked like he can play football.Thought it was laughable how people gave him 7.5 + in marks for cray valley match
but looked like he could improve last night. Hopefully be calling him Mcgreaty one day still hope for Kirk yet then still
Why couldn’t you just say “he had a good game last night”? Why be so hard headed about it?9 -
Very happy to see him starting to put in the performances that won him so many admirers at Lincoln and Cambridge, but the concern for me is the more his performances improve over the next few weeks, the easier it’ll be for the club to let Dobson go in Jan.0
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"Had some?" We still got 'em. Just a tweak here and there in January and we'll be bang in the mix, you mark my words. No doubt about it. End of 😉oohaahmortimer said:If he gets better and returns to the better form Appleton refers to, that he’s shown elsewhere, he’ll be a better player than what we’ve seen in his fleeting appearances for us .
We’ve had some great amazing players in this 4 season run in the third tier , just can’t believe we’re still in this division
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It astonishes me that people are surprised when a player who's career with us has been stop / start sandwiched between injuries starts to get better given more of a run in the team. I'd expect nothing less.6
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You can't. For one ''scapegoating" in general is stupid. But for another... the two situations are totally different.Showmetheway2gohome said:I did say he had a good game last night shame its the only good game his had.how come you can scapegoat Kirk but not mcgrandles
Mcgrandles has been out through a number of injuries, and this affected his play. Kirk was fit, he just couldn't be bothered.
Mcgrandles got good reviews when he was playing a bit more consistently out on loan. Kirk did not.
Mcgrandles (defensive midfielder) has scored nearly as many goals for us THIS season as Kirk (winger) has over his entire time here.
These are not the same. Mcgrandles has a long way to go yet but comparing him in any way to Kirk is a massive disservice.18 -
And still the inane comments come.Showmetheway2gohome said:Well done mcCrappy his first performance where he actually looked like he can play football.Thought it was laughable how people gave him 7.5 + in marks for cray valley match
but looked like he could improve last night. Hopefully be calling him Mcgreaty one day still hope for Kirk yet then still
Says more about the post than the player.5 -
I hate these sort of nicknames for our players as it is, but at least A&Eke makes sense. You've got to be 90% head injury to try and think up a nickname for McGrandles and only be able to come up with McCrappy. I'd be embarrassed to have fingers if that was the best thing I could think to typeCovered_End_Lad said:
Or alternatively we could stop altogether with the stupid nicknames for players? A&Eke being the most moronic closely followed by McCrappy.Showmetheway2gohome said:Well done mcCrappy his first performance where he actually looked like he can play football.Thought it was laughable how people gave him 7.5 + in marks for cray valley match
but looked like he could improve last night. Hopefully be calling him Mcgreaty one day still hope for Kirk yet then still11 -
If anyone's going to get the best out of him, it's McAppleton.6
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There have been a few good ones over the years. Spongefoot and Alfordi...Garrymanilow said:
I hate these sort of nicknames for our players as it is, but at least A&Eke makes sense. You've got to be 90% head injury to try and think up a nickname for McGrandles and only be able to come up with McCrappy. I'd be embarrassed to have fingers if that was the best thing I could think to typeCovered_End_Lad said:
Or alternatively we could stop altogether with the stupid nicknames for players? A&Eke being the most moronic closely followed by McCrappy.Showmetheway2gohome said:Well done mcCrappy his first performance where he actually looked like he can play football.Thought it was laughable how people gave him 7.5 + in marks for cray valley match
but looked like he could improve last night. Hopefully be calling him Mcgreaty one day still hope for Kirk yet then still0 -
Someone else came up with McStandstill which I can’t help but find funny but fair play to him he’s clearly improving, let’s hope he can take this improvement into a few league games now…0
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Sounds like a proper Curbs type player.FishCostaFortune said:
He was not very good, but was tough and got stuck in and did exactly what the manager wanted?Lincsaddick said:
during his time at Lincoln I saw him play for them four, possibly five games .. my general opinion was that he was not very good, but he was tough and got 'stuck in' for what was than a very good Lincoln team, with good loan signings, but the rest of the talent sold off to higher ranked clubs after the play off disappointment. His input was limited, he probably did just what his manager wanted, a very restricted role i m o. I suspect his 'good reputation' was very much the result of him playing in that very good Lincoln team.FishCostaFortune said:
Don’t you think it’s a bit weird to make that personal judgement after 670 injury ravished minutes for Charlton? Which amounts to about 7 games which is barely a pre-season.Lincsaddick said:Bailey said:
Linc's, do you actually live near Lincoln ? As you seem to have a pathological hatred for the fella for what reason I fail to understand. Did you see him play for Lincoln ? did he guzump you on a house purchase ? Is he a mod and your a rocker ? explain please.Lincsaddick said:
and from this statement I deduce you are an arrogant no nothing twatBailey said:
So from that statement we can deduce that Linc's is talking bollocks, thought so !Henry Irving said:If you'd read back you'd see that I've not rated McGrandles at all.
What is true is that since he's been available, after recovering from injury, Appleton has played him in every game so I repeat that there is no evidence that the manager "isn't keen."
I've said a million times, don't exaggerate. The opinions I've expressed solely concern his footballing ability as I see it, others might agree or disagree, it's all a matter of personal judgement ..
I m o he is not good enough to play for CAFC. He might be a lovely fella, a good team man, a manager's dream who attempts (badly) to play whatever role he is told to play, he probably fits into the current wage and cost profile of our club, i.e. all we can realistically afford right now and could afford when he was signed, I am sure he does his best, however, that best is just not good enough.
In professional sport there are many who fall just below the standard required for the level they strive to attain, it is a very tough business, i m o McGrandles falls into that category,
Lastly, f w i w many Lincoln fans gave a huge sigh, even a cheer of relief when he left, of course others were in floods of tears, so it goes
Considering he captained a Lincoln side to the play offs, and the Cambridge fans and manager were very complimentary about his ability. I feel it’s a bit silly to write him off.
My personal judgement is he has been nowhere near as bad as people like to make out. But whether he is good enough yet or not, I’m not sure. I expect we will see more off him before January so might be able to build a better picture by then.
I was surprised to say the least when we signed him, perhaps he was the best available from a poor lot, or; as I said above, all we could afford.
How many games does it take to judge a player ?. Usually as far as I am concerned it takes just a few to make a judgement. Many players are superb at one club playing a specific role only to find when they move, they are a fish stranded well out of the water (Charlie Kirk ?)
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Performances against Cray Valley Paper Mills and a relegation League2 candidate in Sutton, who were largely playing a reserve team. I think only 3 out of that XI are regular starters for Sutton, although I may be wrong.
I would like to see him perform against a side like Carlisle away from home, then we will see what he's about, not against what he's been tasked against so far..2 -
He was pretty good at Pompey too to be fairBraziliance said:Performances against Cray Valley Paper Mills and a relegation League2 candidate in Sutton, who were largely playing a reserve team. I think only 3 out of that XI are regular starters for Sutton, although I may be wrong.
I would like to see him perform against a side like Carlisle away from home, then we will see what he's about, not against what he's been tasked against so far..4 -
But didn’t celebrate his goal properly so he’s shit 😉fenaddick said:
He was pretty good at Pompey too to be fairBraziliance said:Performances against Cray Valley Paper Mills and a relegation League2 candidate in Sutton, who were largely playing a reserve team. I think only 3 out of that XI are regular starters for Sutton, although I may be wrong.
I would like to see him perform against a side like Carlisle away from home, then we will see what he's about, not against what he's been tasked against so far..6 -
He came on as an 83rd minute substitution. Of course he scored a vital goal but can hardly take much from that kind of run out.fenaddick said:
He was pretty good at Pompey too to be fairBraziliance said:Performances against Cray Valley Paper Mills and a relegation League2 candidate in Sutton, who were largely playing a reserve team. I think only 3 out of that XI are regular starters for Sutton, although I may be wrong.
I would like to see him perform against a side like Carlisle away from home, then we will see what he's about, not against what he's been tasked against so far..
I'm just saying, let's not get ahead of ourselves as he's quite easy tasks so far, I look forward to seeing how he performs in the future league games1 -
Before he came to Charlton…7
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George Dobson and Conor McGrandles in 2022 if they started in a double pivot together:Callumcafc said:Before he came to Charlton…
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You're saying that if the oppo show a little bit of tit they'll be waved through but otherwise made to wait for an hour in the cold.Braziliance said:
George Dobson and Conor McGrandles in 2022 if they started in a double pivot together:Callumcafc said:Before he came to Charlton…3 -
The pound shop Jason Mamoa on the left.Braziliance said:
George Dobson and Conor McGrandles in 2022 if they started in a double pivot together:Callumcafc said:Before he came to Charlton…1 -
To be fair this is probably the only really fair way to judge him currently. He's done as good a job as could be expected in the specific circumstances he could do that job in. He's looked tidy and scored a couple but against lower league opposition or off the bench.Braziliance said:
He came on as an 83rd minute substitution. Of course he scored a vital goal but can hardly take much from that kind of run out.fenaddick said:
He was pretty good at Pompey too to be fairBraziliance said:Performances against Cray Valley Paper Mills and a relegation League2 candidate in Sutton, who were largely playing a reserve team. I think only 3 out of that XI are regular starters for Sutton, although I may be wrong.
I would like to see him perform against a side like Carlisle away from home, then we will see what he's about, not against what he's been tasked against so far..
I'm just saying, let's not get ahead of ourselves as he's quite easy tasks so far, I look forward to seeing how he performs in the future league games
Which is absolutely fine IF he's going to be used mostly in that kind of squad player, fill-in role. But if he's going to establish himself as an actual first choice player then he's got to replicate the performances against some higher quality first.
I think he can. Appleton's comments suggest he thinks so too. But he's been given a chance and he really needs to take it.5
