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I think a lot of this is down to all this Sport Science guff. Making 'em too delicate.Dazzler21 said:
Injuries can come from multiple things. The most common are poor preperation and training. Broken bones etc are usually freak occurrences.Braziliance said:I don't want to jinx him, but another reason why retaining Dobson is so important, he never breaks down and will play most games across the course of a season.
What is it with so many injuries in modern football, I don't recall it being as bad as it is in the past
Acute injuries usually occur as a result of an impact. Hence their more common name of 'impact injuries'.
Chronic injuries tend to occur from wear and tear, they can be made worse by improper rest and recovery and strengthening work.
We are seeing a lot of what seem like impact injuries such as strains, but properly managed the number of strains occurring can be reduced. Daily flexibility work and stretching can reduce the chances with some basic strengthening work.
The player has to listen and complete any plan set by the physio, but the physio needs to identify issues, set a plan to mitigate and eliminate risks and report back to the manager any players that aren't progressing as they should.
So is our problem:
1. We are cursed
2. Physios not recognising developing issues
3. Physios recognising issues and setting incorrect plans
4. Physios recognising issues, setting the right plans and players not following them.
5. The manager is forcing players to play through injuries.
Personally I believe we're probably at 4, with a bit of 5. Our physios are qualified professionals. I can only assume the players aren't following physio advice correctly. I don't think a smart manager would play players that are on the brink of an injury, so may be playing players that have minor niggles.
Didn't used to get all these non-impact injuries, when you could have a couple of pints and a fag before kick- off.2 -
Technology is a huge part of it now, players constantly get scans and stuff on the most minor issues, and if there's damage they rule them out. Before they'd take a knock and probably just play through it and take the pain as normal and play though, doing more damage long term.Braziliance said:I don't want to jinx him, but another reason why retaining Dobson is so important, he never breaks down and will play most games across the course of a season.
What is it with so many injuries in modern football, I don't recall it being as bad as it is in the past
Also the sport as a whole nowadays is much more strenuous, players are closer to the limit more often, a league 2 side nowadays would run absolute rings around any side from 30-40 years ago1 -
Wasn't the sports science dept criticized when TS came in and they got replaced.....doesn't seem to have helped TBH....these soft tissue injuries persist0
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We aren’t cursed , there’s clearly something wrong with both the recruitment and the training.Pavoren007 said:We are cursed, no more complicated. Get the local priest in with some holy water, both training ground and Valley. Everything is worth a try at this stage…3 -
We sign players so that others don’t have to.Southbank said:
Quite-McGrandles, Taylor, Camara, Aneke all signed while not fully fit. Edun signed unfit still not doing 90. It’s not a surprise we always have a long injury list is it?swordfish said:We singed him carrying a significant injury IIRC. What were they thinking? Passed his medical did he? I'm praying that the lesson has been learned ahead of January. We have bad enough luck with injuries as it is without inviting more on ourselves.
Good luck to him and I wish him a speedy recovery.The serious issue is that clubs with proper backing and good recruitment wouldn't touch injury prone players (or even currently injured players) with a bargepole.2 -
Or if they did, not 3 or 4 in the same transfer window!JamesSeed said:
We sign players so that others don’t have to.Southbank said:
Quite-McGrandles, Taylor, Camara, Aneke all signed while not fully fit. Edun signed unfit still not doing 90. It’s not a surprise we always have a long injury list is it?swordfish said:We singed him carrying a significant injury IIRC. What were they thinking? Passed his medical did he? I'm praying that the lesson has been learned ahead of January. We have bad enough luck with injuries as it is without inviting more on ourselves.
Good luck to him and I wish him a speedy recovery.The serious issue is that clubs with proper backing and good recruitment wouldn't touch injury prone players (or even currently injured players) with a bargepole.0 -
Moved back to Lincoln permanently https://www.charltonafc.com/news/conor-mcgrandles-rejoins-lincoln-city4
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Was never good enough to dislodge Dobson and on too much money to bench warm, wish him well but quite glad his wages are off the books
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Good move for all parties. Sometimes moves just don't work out.4
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Nothing of note apart from the surname, liked that!0
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Came in with a lot of praise, injured, hardly given time to get fit, played as a DM but he himself preferred getting forward, probably didnt see his best but not sure it would have been good enough anyway, looked a bit lightweight, one last time for @Garrymanilow CONOR MCCRAPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY1
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Bit strong IMHO.Showmetheway2gohome said:Up there for worst player ever seen in a Charlton shirt
He wasn't very good for us but we've had a lot worse!28 -
Not even close.Showmetheway2gohome said:Up there for worst player ever seen in a Charlton shirt
You can’t have seen Mikel Alonso for a start.6 -
Lincoln referring to him as the "Scottish Kaka"4
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Good luck to him, injuries ruined his time with us. Seemed a grumpy sod who never settled but don't really blame him for that with the constant manager churn and time in the treatment room. Will be like many others in that I will likely forget all about him very quickly.2
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Would be interesting to know if a free or a fee1
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Another player that when he returns to play against us next season, I turn and say to my boy, did he us to play for us.1
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I suspect he's another Gilbey, who flopped here, but was and will be successful elsewhere (MK Dons in Gilbey's case).4
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Will this come back to bite us?
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good riddance , either injured or stunk the place out while stealing a living the last few years then had the front to not celebrate a goal in front of a packed away end , he won’t be missed by me .1
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Obviously didn't want to be here anymore. Had a tough time with injuries and got far more grief than he deserved given he only managed a few games across two seasons. Lincoln seems to suit him and if he can stay fit he'll likely be good for them but the injuries really have been piling up which must be a concern. If Jones doesn't want him then it's a good sale.2
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I never thought of McGrandles being the Louis Suarez type.Mendonca In Asdas said:Will this come back to bite us?4 -
Saw him in a pre-season friendly v Swansea at the Valley just after he signed and thought he looked good. But he never seemed able to replicate that performance when it mattered. The club have done well to unload him. I doubt that there's a fee involved and hopefully we're not covering part of his wages either.5
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Lincoln fans seem to think it's a free so we might have paid off a chunk of the remainder of his contract to make it happen.0
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McGonedles.
I'll see myself out...13 -
Towner is an interesting example of a player who didnt perform for us although let's remember he was a very decent player for Millwall and Rotherham and played in the top flight for WolvesShowmetheway2gohome said:Was Alonso falling over the ball in the 3rd division.Worse player since Tony Towner who just put corners straight out for goal kicks.1 -
My favourite Con McG moment was when he looked absolutely furious having scored a last minute equaliser away at the league leaders, fuck was that all about? 🤣1
