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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)
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And IMHO, I think it's about time.Rothko said:Good alias to use, suspect it’s a recently released member of staff who knows how to use social media to get stuff out there
With respect to an earlier post regarding the likelihood of other staff members leaking stuff, I would say that they're 99% certain to keep schtum if they're all too well aware that THEIR jobs would be at risk should the close scrutiny clearly in place at our club is to be believed.
And I understand that it is ...6 -
Its the position not the person that is redundant, employers often pay you off more than its worth going to tribunal for.Karim_myBagheri said:going back to Olly's redundancy, to be made redundant would mean the position that he did is now obsolete? is this the case?
I can't see that being the case which means (i know next to nought on employment law btw) this redundancy is not lawful.
Also i'm surprised that these tweets arnt causing more of a stir.
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“Chris, Chris, grab the sausage rolls, my new accounts been rumbled”11 -
Somehow using 'supercilious' in a sentence seems ..um... supercilious (double and triple checks definition of 'supercilious' before hitting post comment...)Airman Brown said:
Says the bloke who sneers at other posters for their views on a regular basis. Right.Rothko said:
Ah cheers for the education, in such a supercilious wayAirman Brown said:
Not sure you understand the function of this board. Very little said on here is going to “change the world” so I’m not sure what point you are making.Rothko said:
We played at the WHAM stadium on the first day; we played at sponsored grounds through pre season and last season. It’s the equivalent of a phone in presenter doing an hour on parking tickets, gets the phones ringing, doesn’t really change the worldAirman Brown said:
Not sure why it’s not a legitimate topic for discussion in the week we played at something called the Poundland Stadium. I suspect nobody would pay enough for it to happen though.thenewbie said:
You might very well think that in true Charlton Life fashion some idle and entirely baseless speculation has somehow created several pages of waffle... But I couldn't possibly comment.Rothko said:So is the Valley getting a sponsor, or is this something someone has gone off on a tangent about?
I commented because the repeated assertion that it can’t happen because RD owns the ground is nonsense in my opinion. It hasn’t happened because no one wants to pay enough to interest the club. So it’s a hypothetical discussion, like much else on here (see also transfer gossip). But the substantive point is that it’s an option open to the club’s owner and not the landlord.4 -
I believe those who have contacts inside the Club and post on here to keep us informed of what they're hearing and I've yet to hear anything good reported back about staffing relations. Not having job security makes for a fearful working environment.
I'm not as trusting of twitter, don't use it myself, and certainly wouldn't expect Raelynn to reply to accusations posted on it, from whoever has made them and regardless of how genuine they may be.0 -
There is an added issue is that some may hear things they can't share because it could compromise the source. In those cases, what they hear helps to inform their position which may be less positive as a result, but they look overly negative as others don't know what they know. I would imagine Airman shares a small percentage of what he knows on here for instance.6
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i've heard a rumour as to the real reason Olly was 'let go' but won't be posting it on here - i suspect loads have heard the same rumour - its nothing very surprising / shocking and could be completely untrue for all i know0
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Absolutely, which is also why specific details are sometimes held back.MuttleyCAFC said:There is an added issue is that some may hear things they can't share because it could compromise the source. In those cases, what they hear helps to inform their position which may be less positive as a result, but they look overly negative as others don't know what they know. I would imagine Airman shares a small percentage of what he knows on here for instance.0 -
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Supermarkets are offering free charging while you shop, so it’d need to be at a pretty low rate, which might not recoup the cost of installing to charging points. It costs around £15 to fully charge a car at home, so perhaps they could get away with charging £10 at The Valley. Not really a big earner. Plus of course not many fans have electric cars at this time.Athletico Charlton said:
But take The Valley. Stick a load of EV panels on the roof. The roof space is enormous and it would have no impact on players, fans etc. There MAY even be grants available (although suspect not currently).superclive98 said:
Not too sure about short term gain and it depends on how long you mean by medium term.Athletico Charlton said:Should be sticking massive EV panels on the roof of the stands and using the electricity generated to cover our energy bills. There must be a pretty quick pay back given the size of the roofs. Would have though it would generate a meaningful short to medium term saving.
Then Stick a load of car chargers in our car park. TS could then recoup significant cost by charging fans/players to charge their cars when parked there (do it at a reasonable rate slightly less than it would cost at home as it is all profit if you have generated the power yourself) = even quicker pay back.
He could even rent it out during the week when it would otherwise be under utilised.
Landlords are doing this on offices and the like already, so the economics must work.
Plus businesses will be taxed more on their carbon emissions in future years through sustainable taxonomy so it would be future proofing us from that too.
Of course, not owning The Valley is not ideal but I still think the pay back would work.They’d be better off using the panels to power the whole ground, and saving having to pay inflated energy bills over the next couple of years.0 -
Olly was told he was being made redundant in order to save money. If there is another reason - and he wasn’t aware of it if there was - then the club was also lying to him.DOUCHER said:i've heard a rumour as to the real reason Olly was 'let go' but won't be posting it on here - i suspect loads have heard the same rumour - its nothing very surprising / shocking and could be completely untrue for all i know7 -
Well of course. But there would be spare electricity given the size of the roofs and an extra £10 x 50 spaces or so on a match day, plus renting during the week is all easy revenue. Not a massive earner but worth it and as I said it also future proofs us against taxonomy.JamesSeed said:
Supermarkets are offering free charging while you shop, so it’d need to be at a pretty low rate, which might not recoup the cost of installing to charging points. It costs around £15 to fully charge a car at home, so perhaps they could get away with charging £10 at The Valley. Not really a big earner. Plus of course not many fans have electric cars at this time.Athletico Charlton said:
But take The Valley. Stick a load of EV panels on the roof. The roof space is enormous and it would have no impact on players, fans etc. There MAY even be grants available (although suspect not currently).superclive98 said:
Not too sure about short term gain and it depends on how long you mean by medium term.Athletico Charlton said:Should be sticking massive EV panels on the roof of the stands and using the electricity generated to cover our energy bills. There must be a pretty quick pay back given the size of the roofs. Would have though it would generate a meaningful short to medium term saving.
Then Stick a load of car chargers in our car park. TS could then recoup significant cost by charging fans/players to charge their cars when parked there (do it at a reasonable rate slightly less than it would cost at home as it is all profit if you have generated the power yourself) = even quicker pay back.
He could even rent it out during the week when it would otherwise be under utilised.
Landlords are doing this on offices and the like already, so the economics must work.
Plus businesses will be taxed more on their carbon emissions in future years through sustainable taxonomy so it would be future proofing us from that too.
Of course, not owning The Valley is not ideal but I still think the pay back would work.They’d be better off using the panels to power the whole ground, and saving having to pay inflated energy bills over the next couple of years.1 -
I’d imagine the set-up cost would be into six figures and not all of the roofs, if any, would have the optimum orientation or slope. Most of the electricity would be fed into the grid because the club wouldn’t be able to use it, unless there was further substantial investment in batteries.Athletico Charlton said:
Well of course. But there would be spare electricity given the size of the roofs and an extra £10 x 50 spaces or so on a match day, plus renting during the week is all easy revenue. Not a massive earner but worth it and as I said it also future proofs us against taxonomy.JamesSeed said:
Supermarkets are offering free charging while you shop, so it’d need to be at a pretty low rate, which might not recoup the cost of installing to charging points. It costs around £15 to fully charge a car at home, so perhaps they could get away with charging £10 at The Valley. Not really a big earner. Plus of course not many fans have electric cars at this time.Athletico Charlton said:
But take The Valley. Stick a load of EV panels on the roof. The roof space is enormous and it would have no impact on players, fans etc. There MAY even be grants available (although suspect not currently).superclive98 said:
Not too sure about short term gain and it depends on how long you mean by medium term.Athletico Charlton said:Should be sticking massive EV panels on the roof of the stands and using the electricity generated to cover our energy bills. There must be a pretty quick pay back given the size of the roofs. Would have though it would generate a meaningful short to medium term saving.
Then Stick a load of car chargers in our car park. TS could then recoup significant cost by charging fans/players to charge their cars when parked there (do it at a reasonable rate slightly less than it would cost at home as it is all profit if you have generated the power yourself) = even quicker pay back.
He could even rent it out during the week when it would otherwise be under utilised.
Landlords are doing this on offices and the like already, so the economics must work.
Plus businesses will be taxed more on their carbon emissions in future years through sustainable taxonomy so it would be future proofing us from that too.
Of course, not owning The Valley is not ideal but I still think the pay back would work.They’d be better off using the panels to power the whole ground, and saving having to pay inflated energy bills over the next couple of years.
There wouldn’t be any power generated at the time the floodlights were needed and the percentage of electric cars using the car park on matchdays will be small.
Nothing wrong with the principle but probably impossible to make it work for the club financially.2 -
Damn you and your facts :-(Airman Brown said:
I’d imagine the set-up cost would be into six figures and not all of the roofs, if any, would have the optimum orientation or slope. Most of the electricity would be fed into the grid because the club wouldn’t be able to use it, unless there was further substantial investment in batteries.Athletico Charlton said:
Well of course. But there would be spare electricity given the size of the roofs and an extra £10 x 50 spaces or so on a match day, plus renting during the week is all easy revenue. Not a massive earner but worth it and as I said it also future proofs us against taxonomy.JamesSeed said:
Supermarkets are offering free charging while you shop, so it’d need to be at a pretty low rate, which might not recoup the cost of installing to charging points. It costs around £15 to fully charge a car at home, so perhaps they could get away with charging £10 at The Valley. Not really a big earner. Plus of course not many fans have electric cars at this time.Athletico Charlton said:
But take The Valley. Stick a load of EV panels on the roof. The roof space is enormous and it would have no impact on players, fans etc. There MAY even be grants available (although suspect not currently).superclive98 said:
Not too sure about short term gain and it depends on how long you mean by medium term.Athletico Charlton said:Should be sticking massive EV panels on the roof of the stands and using the electricity generated to cover our energy bills. There must be a pretty quick pay back given the size of the roofs. Would have though it would generate a meaningful short to medium term saving.
Then Stick a load of car chargers in our car park. TS could then recoup significant cost by charging fans/players to charge their cars when parked there (do it at a reasonable rate slightly less than it would cost at home as it is all profit if you have generated the power yourself) = even quicker pay back.
He could even rent it out during the week when it would otherwise be under utilised.
Landlords are doing this on offices and the like already, so the economics must work.
Plus businesses will be taxed more on their carbon emissions in future years through sustainable taxonomy so it would be future proofing us from that too.
Of course, not owning The Valley is not ideal but I still think the pay back would work.They’d be better off using the panels to power the whole ground, and saving having to pay inflated energy bills over the next couple of years.
There wouldn’t be any power generated at the time the floodlights were needed and the percentage of electric cars using the car park on matchdays will be small.
Nothing wrong with the principle but probably impossible to make it work for the club financially.5 -
Interesting - in Scottish football you regularly see advertising hoardings for the SNP at pitchside. Always struck me as weird.cafcfan said:
No. As you well know, - you'll remember the issue with poppies - FIFA/UEFA bans this kind of stuff.seth plum said:Would we be allowed to re name the stadium the ‘Don’t Vote Tory Ever Valley’?
No political, religious or personal slogans, statements or images are permitted.
Of course that begs the question as to how football clubs are allowed to continue to use the rainbow laces idea to support LBGTQ+ inclusion, why players can "take the knee" or why mangers, etc can wear badges in Ukraine national flag colours. While the vast majority of people would go along with these indications of support, it seems to me that they are clearly a breach of the FIFA laws, being overtly political.0 -
Don’t they also have the leader of the Scottish Tories running the line. He must be fuming when he turns around and sees the SNP advertising hoardings behind himse9addick said:
Interesting - in Scottish football you regularly see advertising hoardings for the SNP at pitchside. Always struck me as weird.cafcfan said:
No. As you well know, - you'll remember the issue with poppies - FIFA/UEFA bans this kind of stuff.seth plum said:Would we be allowed to re name the stadium the ‘Don’t Vote Tory Ever Valley’?
No political, religious or personal slogans, statements or images are permitted.
Of course that begs the question as to how football clubs are allowed to continue to use the rainbow laces idea to support LBGTQ+ inclusion, why players can "take the knee" or why mangers, etc can wear badges in Ukraine national flag colours. While the vast majority of people would go along with these indications of support, it seems to me that they are clearly a breach of the FIFA laws, being overtly political.0 -
Yeah, that’s really odd too. Scottish football is amazingly insane.NabySarr said:
Don’t they also have the leader of the Scottish Tories running the line. He must be fuming when he turns around and sees the SNP advertising hoardings behind himse9addick said:
Interesting - in Scottish football you regularly see advertising hoardings for the SNP at pitchside. Always struck me as weird.cafcfan said:
No. As you well know, - you'll remember the issue with poppies - FIFA/UEFA bans this kind of stuff.seth plum said:Would we be allowed to re name the stadium the ‘Don’t Vote Tory Ever Valley’?
No political, religious or personal slogans, statements or images are permitted.
Of course that begs the question as to how football clubs are allowed to continue to use the rainbow laces idea to support LBGTQ+ inclusion, why players can "take the knee" or why mangers, etc can wear badges in Ukraine national flag colours. While the vast majority of people would go along with these indications of support, it seems to me that they are clearly a breach of the FIFA laws, being overtly political.0 -
Christ a linesman and a politician!!!! Surely that is the very definition of a masochistic?NabySarr said:
Don’t they also have the leader of the Scottish Tories running the line. He must be fuming when he turns around and sees the SNP advertising hoardings behind himse9addick said:
Interesting - in Scottish football you regularly see advertising hoardings for the SNP at pitchside. Always struck me as weird.cafcfan said:
No. As you well know, - you'll remember the issue with poppies - FIFA/UEFA bans this kind of stuff.seth plum said:Would we be allowed to re name the stadium the ‘Don’t Vote Tory Ever Valley’?
No political, religious or personal slogans, statements or images are permitted.
Of course that begs the question as to how football clubs are allowed to continue to use the rainbow laces idea to support LBGTQ+ inclusion, why players can "take the knee" or why mangers, etc can wear badges in Ukraine national flag colours. While the vast majority of people would go along with these indications of support, it seems to me that they are clearly a breach of the FIFA laws, being overtly political.2 -
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He’s rubbish at both too!AndyG said:
Christ a linesman and a politician!!!! Surely that is the very definition of a masochistic?NabySarr said:
Don’t they also have the leader of the Scottish Tories running the line. He must be fuming when he turns around and sees the SNP advertising hoardings behind himse9addick said:
Interesting - in Scottish football you regularly see advertising hoardings for the SNP at pitchside. Always struck me as weird.cafcfan said:
No. As you well know, - you'll remember the issue with poppies - FIFA/UEFA bans this kind of stuff.seth plum said:Would we be allowed to re name the stadium the ‘Don’t Vote Tory Ever Valley’?
No political, religious or personal slogans, statements or images are permitted.
Of course that begs the question as to how football clubs are allowed to continue to use the rainbow laces idea to support LBGTQ+ inclusion, why players can "take the knee" or why mangers, etc can wear badges in Ukraine national flag colours. While the vast majority of people would go along with these indications of support, it seems to me that they are clearly a breach of the FIFA laws, being overtly political.1 -
And in other news, Sandgaard release their latest EP #LetsRock
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Got more money than sense if he’s playing a Musicman guitar…0
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Hopefully he is on his way1
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to the championship???0
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to sign some players…??0
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To man at C&A?0
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From misery to happiness today?3
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To an employment tribunal?7
