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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)
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CH4RLTON said:
Yep which opens the door for more chancers to come in and have their five minutes of fame and then sod off again leaving us no better off than beforeMarcusH26 said:se9addick said:
I can’t imagine anyone sensible/honest/not oil money rich would now pay anything for the club alone. Possibly a deal whereby they assume the debt, but even then I wouldn’t do it if it was my money.MarcusH26 said:I'm just wondering in a sale situation, what price would TS even want given he owns very little?
That's what I was thinking, no one would want to assume the debt and the club in effect changes hands for a nominal amount.
Oh absolutely you'd have chancers eyeing it up again in that situation. The main hurdle for anyone would be Roland.0 -
Recent tweet from Sandgaards fellow director Leo Rifkind16
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Rob said:Garnerball was looking promising after the Plymouth game but since then everything has fallen apart and our players are being shown up as just not good enough. Or, is it the coaching that is being shown up as just not good enough! So much for needing 2 more windows to make us promotion challengers. Looks to me like Garner is starting to run out of ideas. The wheels may very well be coming off the bus and it’s all down to penny pinching by our owner. That’s how I see it anyway. Not good times to be a Charlton fan. We are well and truly going backwards. Who fancies L2 next year? That’s where we could well be heading.
Managers can only do so much with what they are given..
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Leo clearly understands football more than TS 🙃6
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Not sure I agree. He, like Sandgaard appears to think we need to be selling the valley out week after week before they are in a position of investing. He needs to do some history homework. Charlton were getting dire attendances before Curbishley found the winning formula.Dazzler21 said:Leo clearly understands football more than TS
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Sandgaard has been given enough time and is clearly clueless. He's effectively running the club on a shoestring and has sold his manager down the river. Us too, come to that!
There never was any justification for the tickets prices even if we were running away with the league whilst playing like Man City.
When an owner starts talking about the style of play you know you're in trouble.
I still don't know what his son brings to the table and I guess, neither does Steve Gallen, no wondering there are rumours of him leaving.
A man who is great at his job now reduced to tying up the loss ends of any deal!
We've failed to sign a striker who might suit our style of play whilst the present incumbents can't do it or are injured.
I wish I shared the confidence to say we're not going down. Our failure to beat the poorest teams in the league suggests otherwise. A few more suspensions and injuries and it'll get worse.
I think Sandgaard's silence on social media is very telling. Even he's embarrassed by it now. The sooner he goes the better.15 -
I am not sure he does, from the very first day that the football clubs in the Northwest of England became professional in the late 1870s then clubs have needed wealthy owners to fund them. in this case many a mill owner or steel works owner.Dazzler21 said:Leo clearly understands football more than TS
in that time the vast majority of clubs have been loss making entities..1 -
Yes it's the fans' fault. Of coursecarly burn said:4 -
He’s getting pelters…….Croydon said:
Yes it's the fans' fault. Of coursecarly burn said:2 - Sponsored links:
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Good, once again we've reverted to being a shambles off the pitch.SuedeAdidas said:
He’s getting pelters…….Croydon said:
Yes it's the fans' fault. Of coursecarly burn said:18 -
Come on @Dazzler21 he’s having his strings pulled from above.Dazzler21 said:Leo clearly understands football more than TSIt suggests to me, we’ve tried it our way and it’s not working what would you like us to do?
They’ve had so many offer of support and advice from so many people that know Charlton and care about Charlton yet they’d rather employ advisors/ do it their own way, yet when it goes tits up it’s yours and my fault.32 -
We’ve crossed into Roland country with Leo Rifkind starring as the new Katrien Meire. Buckle yourselves in, it’s going to be bumpy.8
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We’re a f****g basket case.4
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This is such miserable posting. It isn't nearly as bad as this. We now play with an identity. We just haven't quite worked out how to integrate a striker into the formation (and yes, I agree we could and should have addressed this by spending money), and we've had a few unfortunate injuries (none more so than Sessegnon). We almost completely dominated FGR and couldn't put the ball in the net. Garner running out of ideas? Give me a break. This is a two-year project at least. Going backwards? Did you see us play last year?Rob said:Garnerball was looking promising after the Plymouth game but since then everything has fallen apart and our players are being shown up as just not good enough. Or, is it the coaching that is being shown up as just not good enough! So much for needing 2 more windows to make us promotion challengers. Looks to me like Garner is starting to run out of ideas. The wheels may very well be coming off the bus and it’s all down to penny pinching by our owner. That’s how I see it anyway. Not good times to be a Charlton fan. We are well and truly going backwards. Who fancies L2 next year? That’s where we could well be heading.21 -
Sandgaard needs to try and sell the club and say he is intending to.He clearly doesn’t have the money to invest in the team. I fear another shambles season like last ones!2
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Is the fans forum going ahead tomorrow? Could be an interesting one!4
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Bit of thinking in 2 minutes would tell you it was a bad idea to post this and the stupid ticket price idea. Can't believe what I'm reading here.Croydon said:
Yes it's the fans' fault. Of coursecarly burn said:
Time to go imo for Sandgaard. Can't see a way back from this1 -
He has 16m shares in his company Zynex valued at $150m plus his personal wealth so he has money…but spending $10m a year just to keep us going is probably not uppermost in his mind! He’s a business man not a real fan. TBH I’m not really sure why he bought us in the first place other than as a vanity project…DiscoCAFC said:Sandgaard needs to try and sell the club and say he is intending to.He clearly doesn’t have the money to invest in the team. I fear another shambles season like last ones!5 - Sponsored links:
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Apologies added the sarcasm smiley to my original post.T_C_E said:
Come on @Dazzler21 he’s having his strings pulled from above.Dazzler21 said:Leo clearly understands football more than TSIt suggests to me, we’ve tried it our way and it’s not working what would you like us to do?
They’ve had so many offer of support and advice from so many people that know Charlton and care about Charlton yet they’d rather employ advisors/ do it their own way, yet when it goes tits up it’s yours and my fault.1 -
The year we won League One 11/12, our average attendance was 17,402.
What does he expect?
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I'm not going to defend that patrician bollocks from Rifkind though. Make football affordable - unconditionally - and you might have the tiniest essence of a point mate4
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Leo Rifkind is hopelessly out of his depth on this.
He might have been able to draft a good sale and purchase agreement but he clearly has no idea how a football club works as a business, or how to engage with its supporters.
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Because he thought, like dozens of other people before him, he was smarter than everyone else that has lost a fortune owning a football club. He isn't.CafcWest said:
He has 16m shares in his company Zynex valued at $150m plus his personal wealth so he has money…but spending $10m a year just to keep us going is probably not uppermost in his mind! He’s a business man not a real fan. TBH I’m not really sure why he bought us in the first place other than as a vanity project…DiscoCAFC said:Sandgaard needs to try and sell the club and say he is intending to.He clearly doesn’t have the money to invest in the team. I fear another shambles season like last ones!36 -
No apologies necessary @Dazzler21Dazzler21 said:
Apologies added the sarcasm smiley to my original post.T_C_E said:
Come on @Dazzler21 he’s having his strings pulled from above.Dazzler21 said:Leo clearly understands football more than TSIt suggests to me, we’ve tried it our way and it’s not working what would you like us to do?
They’ve had so many offer of support and advice from so many people that know Charlton and care about Charlton yet they’d rather employ advisors/ do it their own way, yet when it goes tits up it’s yours and my fault.
Her ladyship is obviously keeping her head down (waits for @Davemehmet ) so they wheel out another mouthpiece.We eagerly await the next exclusive under the #Talkingbollox maybe Burger Boy on how he’s so misunderstood 😉👍0 -
If it is, will it be available on Zoom or recorded?NabySarr said:Is the fans forum going ahead tomorrow? Could be an interesting one!0 -
It’s all a bit grim isn’t it? Appreciate TS securing the club from the spivs. However, cannot see any way we will achieve success on the football field under TS’s stewardship. With luck we may maintain a mid table tenancy in L1 but that’s about the best I think we can hope for. Certainly in a couple of years we may dreaming of those days when 10,000 turned up for a game at The Valley.0
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I wonder how long it will take TS to realise that his plan to fill The Valley is actually emptying it.45
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Deleted all the tweets now it seems1
