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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)
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Have you kidnapped Grapevine and stolen his log in details?RodneyCharltonTrotta said:[A long heartfelt post removed to save our scrolling fingers]9 -
WOW, RCT !!!!! Are you Grapevine in disguise ?
A blockbuster from deepest East Sussex, no less !
Surely the scales must fall from the naysayers' eyes after reading that immaculate summary of what's REALLY going on in SE7.
No holds barred indeed and that's the way it has to be now.
The facts are indisputable - there for everyone to see and before it's too late .....
Perhaps it's time to remind our deluded owner that the faithful will never stand by, twiddling their thumbs when our beloved football club is in danger. Should he be in any doubt, I'm sure that Airman & Prague can enlighten him.
Time to make a discreet exit, Thomas, before that famous ego becomes totally deflated.
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I'm not as convinced as some respected and more ITK posters on here that anyone is out there willing and able to buy us outright and bring the assets back under Club ownership.se9addick said:
I don't believe Thomas would be spurning good offers now, if he has before, and Roland would gladly sell for his ludicrous valuation of the Valley and SL, so if these seriously wealthy potential owners exist, where are they now, and where were they when ESI were fleecing the Club? Watching on as Thomas took us on instead? Very helpful.
If Thomas is now considering his exit strategy, he might try and save face by claiming he's unable to devote as much time to the Club as he intended due to business demands in the States. I doubt he'll claim it's down to fan apathy making his continuance unviable, but he might.
What I don't expect to see is him changing the way he operates.7 -
No idea why people like this are even given air time.0
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Seems like he wanted the success/media attention of Brentford, but while budgeting for Welling United.8
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Can’t wait for the next bellend to come in and own us and everyone drops to their knees and gobbles them off
and when Airman questions our next saviour the same fellatio crew will be there cupping the new owners balls and merrily stroking them at the same time as slagging off airman and whoever else dares question the next complete nutbag on the block67 -
I personally believe that he wants to lower the club loss to try and make the club more attractive to potential buyers. As he does not own the ground or SL he knows it will be hard to sell.
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Oooh !oohaahmortimer said:Can’t wait for the next bellend to come in and own us and everyone drops to their knees and gobbles them off
and when Airman questions our next saviour the same fellatio crew will be there cupping the new owners balls and merrily stroking them at the same time as slagging off airman and whoever else dares question the next complete nutbag on the block
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I understand the club might be making a statement today with regards to the tweets..8
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The worry is that TS is open to offers for the club simply to remove this loss maker out of his portfolio. The ESI's are still out there and and TS may follow the same route as Duchatelet and sell for a pound to save an eight million loss. I don't think bids could considered valid unless the ground and Sparrows Lane were brought back into the equation, would Duchatelet drop his ridiculous asking price ? For the first time ever I would actually consider moving away from the Valley if another ground could be purchased simply to rid ourselves of the Belgian, deeply unpopular opinion I know but all the time we on offer for next to nothing then we are extremely vulnerable.0
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carly burn said:
Scoham said:Looks like he’s deleted these but fortunately there’s a screenshot.
I've read some shit on Twitter and this is right up there. That's some proper pretentious,.passive aggressive clueless rant. I guess when you earn £60k + a year 48 quid for a ticket don't seem like much..0 -
What was that on Dubes, LinkedIn?DubaiCAFC said:1 -
DubaiCAFC said:I understand the club might be making a statement today with regards to the tweets..
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Looks like Facebook to me.AFKABartram said:
What was that on Dubes, LinkedIn?DubaiCAFC said:0 - Sponsored links:
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What was that on Dubes, LinkedIn?DubaiCAFC said:0 -
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Oh to be a normal football club again. 99% of clubs are only discussing what is happening on the pitch every week, we have been focused on off field shenanigans for 10 years. I think TS may be realising he has bitten off more than he can chew. He has two options now:- Sell up- Change his approach, listen to the fans and those with experience and try to get back on track26
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Now reduced to a third tier club with a third tier owner.His ambition outweighs his talent in seems.Sad state as there is so much potential at Charlton. But to realise requires investment.HMS Treadwater is still sailing the choppy seas of the EFL.I wish the team well, and will support them. But won't expect promotion until the next owner turns up. Let us hope they've got a magic money pot, or at least a clue on how to run a successful football club.4
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£60k pa? You might want to add another zero to that!CL_Phantom said:carly burn said:Scoham said:Looks like he’s deleted these but fortunately there’s a screenshot.
I've read some shit on Twitter and this is right up there. That's some proper pretentious,.passive aggressive clueless rant. I guess when you earn £60k + a year 48 quid for a ticket don't seem like much..14 -
If he's skint he'll want to sell and if potential buyers exist there's deal to be done, so we just need to be patient waiting for it to play out and back the team in the meantime.Covered_End_Lad said:Oh to be a normal football club again. 99% of clubs are only discussing what is happening on the pitch every week, we have been focused on off field shenanigans for 10 years. I think TS may be realising he has bitten off more than he can chew. He has two options now:- Sell up- Change his approach, listen to the fans and those with experience and try to get back on track
Probably overly optimistic of me I know, but some seem to believe both those conditions exist, so It'm hoping for a speedy painless resolution that sees the end of the RD/TS era. What I expect to happen is another matter entirely.
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Expecting promotion with this season's Wednesday and Ipswich in the league is a long, long shot tbf. But we need signs that something is being built. It feels to me like something is, albeit imperfectly, on the football front. Nonsense from directors and high ticket prices really don't help, and nor does the fact there's less money than we thought, resulting in a slightly undercooked squad and various otherwise-inexplicable staff redundancies, but neither does impatience from, tbf, a long-abused fanbase - if promotion is your measure of success, I recommend supporting someone else. At least this season.
The most important thing to remember is that financially, all of football is fucked. There is no way to prosper without loss. It is a doped, exclusive rich man's plaything. A private member's club. And unless we sate the whim of a potentate, we are locked out, at least from the top table. But frankly, what glory is there in buying the league?16 -
Agree - the sad reality (on pitch) is that if we played Ipswich next week, they would probably spank us like that game towards the end of the season.1
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I've mainly kept quiet on the TS ownership discussions over the last few months, Yes I will admit, quite readily, I was a supporter of TS when he took us over and saw a potentially 'rosy' future. I read some people wanted him out not long after he started, for whatever reason, and I argued that he needed time, his song didn't offend me and his 'Americanisms' I put down to where he lives and owns a successful business.
The rumours of him being 'skint' I put to one-side as just people who didn't like him just trying to gain some traction, in fact I thought if TS is 'skint' I wish I could be as 'skint' as him!
I felt optimism when he appointed Adkins, also the same with Roddy, Mumford and latterly Jokat. When Bowyer left I wasn't disappointed, in fact when JJ took over it was looking a very good turn of events.
Wanting to engage with the fans, after what had gone on before was a huge positive and I was feeling that at last we had an owner with good intentions and ambition.
So taking all the above into account....YES I was a supporter of his, even down to speaking with him on SM and him asking me to help him donate to one @Henry Irving causes (I think it was for Seb Lewis, but stand to be corrected on that).
However, things for me, then started to appear concerning. The continued employment of Keohone, the 'missed' opportunities in the recent transfer windows, the quick turnover of staff he appointed - Roddy, Mumford, Jokat leaving their respective roles and the appointment of his family to take on roles that none of them are qualified to do. (I'm one, by the way, that saw the benefit in letting JJ go, BUT not how it was done, that was disgraceful!!)
Then, more recently, the atrocious way that @Ollywozere was dismissed, coupled with a completely insane and quite clearly (after Tuesday's attendance) the new match day pricing structure. (You cant break even by increasing prices, when the product is poor, along with the service....anyone with a business brain knows that...look at Aldi as an example.....cut prices...give service...and get in good products!)
There are very worrying signs that his plan to cut costs so much that we will not be able to compete on the 'pitch' (another failed and cheap transfer window), coupled with a family outfit trying to run a UK football club with little to no experience of the 'nuances' of such an organisation off the pitch. Whilst I still don't subscribe to him being 'skint', he quite clearly doesn't have enough resources to make this club successful on or off the pitch and hence it is time for him to bow out.
I don't care how he bows out....he can hold his hands up and say he cant afford to keep giving his time to us, due to his commitments in the US, or he can say he has decided the cost is too much, but the time is up, in my opinion on his tenure. My thoughts would be thanks for 'saving' us, but the time is to handover the future of OUR club to someone with greater knowledge of running a UK football club.
When I was talking to TS way back before he finally bought us and all the crooks were trying to deflect him from getting us, we were ALL hoping he would win his court cases, he told me he was stubborn and wouldn't be beaten by ESI and Co. He proved to be true to his word and got what he wanted and to a sense, so did all of us.
However Thomas, if you or a member of your staff are reading this, its time to admit that this is NOT working, and let your stubbornness go, for the sake of CAFC (and your finances).
My final point, and I'm so sorry this is such a long post.....my concern is who will take us on.....the Belgian still has his grubby, aging hands on us.....we need an owner with intent, ambition (realistic), and of course enough monetary power to move us forward.....TS saved us from the crooks.....we now need the next owner to save us from TS's cost cutting exercises.
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This - We've gone nowhere under TS's leadership. In fact, we've gone backwards and this season looks like a familiar pattern on and off the pitch.mendonca said:Agree - the sad reality (on pitch) is that if we played Ipswich next week, they would probably spank us like that game towards the end of the season.3
