How can people seriously wonder why apathy abounds amongst the support
Just think of the previous 14 seasons 9 of which have been spent in the third tier our neighbours have spent most of that time in the top and second flight it has never ever been this bad , footballing wise , we have never over such a long period clearly been the shittiest team in South East London . 6 seasons in the previous 70 or something like that in the third tier and you wonder why fans aren’t running about with their dicks in their hand cos Peter Varney wants a crowd against Brighton , come on , not many are madder for this club than me but I can see why fans are completely fucked off with it all
How can people seriously wonder why apathy abounds amongst the support
Just think of the previous 14 seasons 9 of which have been spent in the third tier our neighbours have spent most of that time in the top and second flight it has never ever been this bad , footballing wise , we have never over such a long period clearly been the shittiest team in South East London . 6 seasons in the previous 70 or something like that in the third tier and you wonder why fans aren’t running about with their dicks in their hand cos Peter Varney wants a crowd against Brighton , come on , not many are madder for this club than me but I can see why fans are completely fucked off with it all
Yeah I get it. But anyone who is a Charlton Athletic fan and wants change, should be at the Brighton game. Regardless of how they feel.
In all likeliness this is a potential out of the current situation, so to sit and do nothing and moan instead, I don’t get.
How can people seriously wonder why apathy abounds amongst the support
Just think of the previous 14 seasons 9 of which have been spent in the third tier our neighbours have spent most of that time in the top and second flight it has never ever been this bad , footballing wise , we have never over such a long period clearly been the shittiest team in South East London . 6 seasons in the previous 70 or something like that in the third tier and you wonder why fans aren’t running about with their dicks in their hand cos Peter Varney wants a crowd against Brighton , come on , not many are madder for this club than me but I can see why fans are completely fucked off with it all
I have been a fan for over 50 years and I have never been so pissed off with the club as I am now. That's why I am getting excited about this possible glimmer of light in very dark time...
So why do I have to sit through small crowds and bad atmosphere week in week out, just for our supposed “new owners” to have it easy with a full crowd.
Apparently it’s a Belgian investor . Don’t worry about a stadium and a training pitch he has those already. Also has experience running a football club …….
If this is happening I hope TS does insist on a covenant that we have to keep playing that f##king song
I must be one of the few people who have never heard it. Refused from day one to listen to it . The same could almost be said about Thomas Sandgaard and family.
I believe Airman has said that for there to be serious buyers there has to be serious sellers. At the present time we seem to be locked in to a slow death by a thousand cuts scenario.
True Seth but if there were still any serious questions about Sandgaard's willingness to sell, I don't think PV would have put that Tweet out.
I also think PV is sending a hidden message to Banjo Bill. In that if we can fill the Valley off the back of my tweet, just imagine what we could achieve with PROPER leadership and management
Does he really need to do this? His track record on developing the Valley, Valley Express, building gates and filling the ground for years speak for themselves. These weren't all his ideas by any means but he facilitated them as Chief Exec. Problem is big egos fear being put in the shadows by competent and popular leaders.
Non season ticket holders calling holders put for not being committed.
Was 2011 worth the Roland years that followed?
Someone that has had their head so far up Thomas's, and Martin's, arse they could taste what they had for breakfast for 2 years suddenly demanding others turn up in the hope that they sell.
People who 48 hours ago couldn't give a French fried titty fuck about the game now making out its the biggest date in our destiny since the local elections.
It's got it all.
If you were going anyway brilliant If your now going brilliant If you can't go fair enough If you weren't going and still have no intention of going on the back of a vauge tweet, that's good to.
Don't let anyone else tell you, or tell anyone else, that you aren't proper Charlton and don't "deserve" better. You do. We all do.
What evidence do you have that PV has had his head up the Sandgaard’s arses…..before you say that, you ought to have significant evidence. How come you know this but no one else has even hinted that they regularly converse with one other and even if it were to be true, why would he find it necessary to do so, how does he gain from it. Do you know PV? Well I (amongst many others), do……being up anyones arse is far and away from his style of operating, no way would he do that. You are simply shit stirring…..why do you find it necessary? Incidentally.…..how have you read his missive as a demand, he’s just requesting that we do it, why put a totally bullshit spin on things?
I never said PV, nor implied PV had his head anywhere near Thomas's bottom.
Yes I know Peter and have known him for the best part of 35 years. Well before he was involved at Charlton.
You have totally miss interrupted that part.
I was actually referencing CL arse licker in chief that thinks they are all his mates.
And no I don't mean the recent shirt sponsor before anyone jumps to that awful conclusion.
Well I think anyone reading your post would have come to the conclusion you were referring to Peter Varney…..so I can only say I’m sorry I read it that way. I also don’t know who the CL arse licker in chief is that you mention.
Peter has never been up the Sandgaard's arses, he has never shown any bias in favour of them either.
I won't lie, for a minute, just a minute, I thought it may have been me! As I backed Sandgaard and had communicated directly with him a number of times, but his answers slowly began to smell more and more of BS, then he and Raelynn fucked over several trusted members of staff in a short period of time and Olly was my last straw.
From that point on, he'd lost my support.
Then I read the bit about a sudden turn to filling the Valley at Peter's request and I realised... Nah Sandgaard lost me a long time before that!
So why do I have to sit through small crowds and bad atmosphere week in week out, just for our supposed “new owners” to have it easy with a full crowd.
if you a charlton fan surely a cup game against a premier league team in front or a potentially big crowd should excite you, rather than small crowds against shit teams every other week?
If a buyer/investor is swayed by a crowd at a one off game - I’d be questioning their business acumen anyway.
Was going to say the same, but then thought that it would still show potential, and that 16k to 20k fans exist at least. If a Tweet by an ex-senior executive can do it, imagine what a new owner, a bit of dough and a change of direction could do to attendances.
The other way to look at it is, Barcley has had a bet with PV and said something along the lines of - "If there's more than 20k at the 2 bob Cup, I'll go all in"
I look forward to another 1000 page thread extending into the summer and beyond with rumours of free-spending billionaires finally culminating in a vanity project for a chap who made a couple of million importing ppe in the pandemic and who intends to stabilise by selling off one of the stands to a car boot sale organiser to fund a new goalkeeper from Dulwich Hamlet.
I look forward to another 1000 page thread extending into the summer and beyond with rumours of free-spending billionaires finally culminating in a vanity project for a chap who made a couple of million importing ppe in the pandemic and who intends to stabilise by selling off one of the stands to a car boot sale organiser to fund a new goalkeeper from Dulwich Hamlet.
Not sure about blowing smoke but until very recently I have very much given Thomas the benefit of the doubt but that’s finally worn thin. I thank him for sorting out and ridding us of of the previous parasites which if he hadn’t we might now not be here to moan at all. I think his intentions have always been honourable and the failures have been down to being too full of himself and having no clue that having an experienced CEO should have been the first thing he did. In all honesty the mistakes have kept coming. Thank you Thomas but I hope you do the right thing and get the hell out and save yourself some money and let someone else try where you have not been able to get things right. It’s also an indictment of todays football when a businessman like TS with all his money is still not rich enough to own and progress a third tier football club.
I look forward to another 1000 page thread extending into the summer and beyond with rumours of free-spending billionaires finally culminating in a vanity project for a chap who made a couple of million importing ppe in the pandemic and who intends to stabilise by selling off one of the stands to a car boot sale organiser to fund a new goalkeeper from Dulwich Hamlet.
Can’t be me, have never met Martin in my life and have never been shown around the training ground, although I have been there with an opposition team.
I stand by my comments that Sandgaard has done a great job at the training ground, I like his choice of manager, and I don’t have an issue with him having his son as part of the recruitment team.
Having a plan was a huge step forward from where we had been for years and I had/have no expectations that we would get promoted this season. New manager and replacing a squad every year had to stop and I prefer decent football and IMO we have started that process.
I did say it will take at least three windows to get the players in to make a serious challenge and do certainly believe that new investment could move that forward. The thread originally said investment, but if he wants to sell, I can’t think of anyone better to be fronting a buyer than Peter Varney.
I would prefer to blow smoke up an arse than be one.
Can’t be me, have never met Martin in my life and have never been shown around the training ground, although I have been there with an opposition team.
I stand by my comments that Sandgaard has done a great job at the training ground, I like his choice of manager, and I don’t have an issue with him having his son as part of the recruitment team.
Having a plan was a huge step forward from where we had been for years and I had/have no expectations that we would get promoted this season. New manager and replacing a squad every year had to stop and I prefer decent football and IMO we have started that process.
I did say it will take at least three windows to get the players in to make a serious challenge and do certainly believe that new investment could move that forward. The thread originally said investment, but if he wants to sell, I can’t think of anyone better to be fronting a buyer than Peter Varney.
I would prefer to blow smoke up an arse than be one.
I feel as though I inadvertently stirred the hornet's nest here. Had I seen @Cafc43v3r's post edit saying 'And let's leave it at that', I would have before posting again, but I hadn't, so I couldn't, and I didn't, if that makes sense. I'm off to boil my head! 😎
I look forward to another 1000 page thread extending into the summer and beyond with rumours of free-spending billionaires finally culminating in a vanity project for a chap who made a couple of million importing ppe in the pandemic and who intends to stabilise by selling off one of the stands to a car boot sale organiser to fund a new goalkeeper from Dulwich Hamlet.
.......and also appeared on I'm a Celebrity.
If I could double lol this I would.
Is it David Ike? he's been banned from travelling to Europe so no good for our Champions League prospects
Exactly. Buy a ticket for £15 and we have 10 pages of whinging on here. Meanwhile Brighton fans are looking for another 4,000 plus tickets.
Brighton are a club on the up with fans enthusiasm on the up also. We’ve been ground into the dirt for best part of 15 years.
We should sell them ever ticket we can't sell to our own supporters. If they can't /won't turn up for any reason ( and some will be genuinely good reasons) then the space can be sold for a profit to someone else. The club needs to make money, running at a £7 million loss a year is no joke. If TS pulls the plug we fold.(not recommending this, better to sell but to whom....)
So why do I have to sit through small crowds and bad atmosphere week in week out, just for our supposed “new owners” to have it easy with a full crowd.
if you a charlton fan surely a cup game against a premier league team in front or a potentially big crowd should excite you, rather than small crowds against shit teams every other week?
As a Charlton fan, nothing excites me anymore. The recent years have left me devoid of any emotion.
I’m in Poland for that game and Christmas but I’d be there if not! It’s also a message to TS that there’s other ways to increase the crowd than giving tickets away.
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Just think of the previous 14 seasons 9 of which have been spent in the third tier
our neighbours have spent most of that time in the top and second flight
it has never ever been this bad , footballing wise , we have never over such a long period clearly been the shittiest team in South East London .
6 seasons in the previous 70 or something like that in the third tier and you wonder why fans aren’t running about with their dicks in their hand cos Peter Varney wants a crowd against Brighton , come on , not many are madder for this club than me but I can see why fans are completely fucked off with it all
I won't lie, for a minute, just a minute, I thought it may have been me! As I backed Sandgaard and had communicated directly with him a number of times, but his answers slowly began to smell more and more of BS, then he and Raelynn fucked over several trusted members of staff in a short period of time and Olly was my last straw.
From that point on, he'd lost my support.
Then I read the bit about a sudden turn to filling the Valley at Peter's request and I realised... Nah Sandgaard lost me a long time before that!
The other way to look at it is, Barcley has had a bet with PV and said something along the lines of - "If there's more than 20k at the 2 bob Cup, I'll go all in"
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Buy a ticket for £15 and we have 10 pages of whinging on here.
Meanwhile Brighton fans are looking for another 4,000 plus tickets.
I did say it will take at least three windows to get the players in to make a serious challenge and do certainly believe that new investment could move that forward. The thread originally said investment, but if he wants to sell, I can’t think of anyone better to be fronting a buyer than Peter Varney.
I would prefer to blow smoke up an arse than be one.
It’s also a message to TS that there’s other ways to increase the crowd than giving tickets away.