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Peter Varney asking for big crowd for Brighton match (Potential Buyers?)
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If TS is the stumbling block then it’s back to protests 😐. How many fans would actually have the motivation/energy to take part? The protests against RD were well designed and effective - (to an extent, as he’s still here). Look at all the work that must have gone into the dossiers. I expect people are knackered. Just how long can you go on banging your head against a brick wall?ShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t have inside info either but there are several posters that do have some connections that have hinted at TS being the stumbling block rather than RD. Notably Airman Brown and Dubai. Perhaps they might want to clarify if they can.valleynick66 said:
I have zero inside knowledge.ShootersHillGuru said:
I see it as completely the opposite. I think RD will negotiate but it’s Sandgaard thats still unable to see the reality of his situation and thinks he has more to sell than what he has.valleynick66 said:
To what end though? I rather assume TS will sell if a serious bidder emerges. Any club is always for sale if someone with more cash comes along.Fanny Fanackapan said:On reflection, the one word that sums up last night & my mood this dull, dreary Saturday morning is FLAT.
That performance as a whole was severely lacking in excitement with not one piece of action bringing the home fans to their feet, apart from the disallowed goal.
Sadly, this is becoming a regular feature of our play & one which is likely to deter some of the most committed fans from occupying their seats as winter sets in
Our support is ailing.
Our club is dying.
And with Sandgaard now attending fewer matches, the opportunities to resurrect that old, familiar chant, "politely" asking an owner to sling his hook, are few & far between.
Would a call for pertinent banners to accompany such chants help to reinforce the Christmas Wish, top of the faithful's list ? Perhaps the Mega Ego would be further punctured and ideally, press coverage ( however minimal) would " put out there" that once again, Charlton fans are revolting....
Just a somewhat pathetic idea, I'm guessing, that will elicit groans of "FFS!" from most but with the January window about to creak open, and with optimism daring to show its face following PV's enigmatic call to arms ( or should I say bums ?) perhaps something should be considered for the Bristol Rovers match ....Surely a visual & vocal show of our feelings at this time would indicate that it's time to smell the cawfee, TS, & your time's up ? Muttering under our breath & booing the players isn't going to cut the mustard, as Delia might say.
Finally, time is running out at a rate of knots for the celebration that @Arsenetatters & I had promised would greet a new, PV supported owner. The BIG cake would now cost double its original estimate and sadly, jumping is now off the agenda as far as Fanny is concerned. Sad but true.
The only positive to take from last night's performance was the inclusion of 2 Young Guns in the starting line up and the manner in which they conducted themselves on the hallowed turf. We need to hold on to the likes of Zach & Lucas - something I fear may not be the case if TS remains in situ.
The "onwards & upwards" mantra is seriously in danger of being mothballed.Is there really any serious suggestion he will not sell and is actively blocking it when he is losing money?
Isn’t what we really need is for the supposed interested parties to come forward and maybe break cover? We aren’t exactly talking about a huge corporate takeover that is guided by stock exchange rules etc.
if there is serous intent perhaps it’s more the RD side of negotiations that is the biggest hurdle.But logic tells me TS is losing money currently and no longer enjoys any adulation from being an owner. He needs out.On that basis I’d be surprised if he is being unreasonable. Clearly he might be negotiating but can’t see that he has much to haggle with and can protect his wealth better via a swift exit. Should that even be a genuine option.3 -
IF the is a potential owner in the background that has started negotiations ofcourse TS will start off with a high figure to try and recoup his investment. The trouble is he has little to actually sell that is worth anything. Imagine trying to sell any business that loses millions a year ? If you dont have substantial equity to offset the losses (which we dont) it's worth whatever the smoke and mirrors man can pitch the dream for. In any normal sense of the word the club is insolvent (as are most) and worth zero. Eventually TS will realise he cant keep burning money and bail out whichever way he can but unless some very wealthy owner steps up it is going to be a couple of years of pain ahead I think. Such a shame after how he got rid of the crooks that he didnt have the sense to make better decisions early doors as things could have been very different had money been better spent. He is like alot of self made men they start to think that they know best in everything they do and turn into egocentric personalities. I just hope he isnt that mad to get rid of BG and put Martin in 😳5
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I said that to my wife this morning, could you imagine the melt down we’d witness, surely can’t happen?AndyG said:IF the is a potential owner in the background that has started negotiations ofcourse TS will start off with a high figure to try and recoup his investment. The trouble is he has little to actually sell that is worth anything. Imagine trying to sell any business that loses millions a year ? If you dont have substantial equity to offset the losses (which we dont) it's worth whatever the smoke and mirrors man can pitch the dream for. In any normal sense of the word the club is insolvent (as are most) and worth zero. Eventually TS will realise he cant keep burning money and bail out whichever way he can but unless some very wealthy owner steps up it is going to be a couple of years of pain ahead I think. Such a shame after how he got rid of the crooks that he didnt have the sense to make better decisions early doors as things could have been very different had money been better spent. He is like alot of self made men they start to think that they know best in everything they do and turn into egocentric personalities. I just hope he isnt that mad to get rid of BG and put Martin in 😳0 -
Dreading both cup games against Stockport and Brighton. Just hope we aren't humiliated.
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From what I've heard, he's running out of money NOW, and fast....AndyG said:IF the is a potential owner in the background that has started negotiations ofcourse TS will start off with a high figure to try and recoup his investment. The trouble is he has little to actually sell that is worth anything. Imagine trying to sell any business that loses millions a year ? If you dont have substantial equity to offset the losses (which we dont) it's worth whatever the smoke and mirrors man can pitch the dream for. In any normal sense of the word the club is insolvent (as are most) and worth zero. Eventually TS will realise he cant keep burning money and bail out whichever way he can but unless some very wealthy owner steps up it is going to be a couple of years of pain ahead I think. Such a shame after how he got rid of the crooks that he didnt have the sense to make better decisions early doors as things could have been very different had money been better spent. He is like alot of self made men they start to think that they know best in everything they do and turn into egocentric personalities. I just hope he isnt that mad to get rid of BG and put Martin in 😳
" A couple of years of pain " is a highly unlikely timescale.4 -
Strange commentFerryman said:
Would you rather Chinese than Barclay?The Red Robin said:Andrew Barclay currently going on a Hunter Biden laptop conspiracy rant on Twitter. Let’s hope he’s not involved this time round.2 -
losing 3 or 4 nil to Brighton isn't humiliation....losing by the same scoreline to Stockport is.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Dreading both cup games against Stockport and Brighton. Just hope we aren't humiliated.
And the latter is on national.tv.0 -
I don't believe TS isn't aware of the growing strength of supporter discontent. Protesting would give us the chance to be vocalise our rejection of his ways and means, but it's what he sees week in week out that gets the message across, those banks of empty seats.
With all the worries in the world going on right now, I doubt the wider public are likely to feel that engaged by another campaign from disgruntled Charlton supporters though. Hell, I'm not even sure I would be!!!
I've resigned myself to it being sh*t from here on in, although I've yet to reach the point of thinking the best that I can hope for is to die in my sleep, in 20-30 years time in old age and in otherwise good health.
I'm not saying I don't care, but hey, if we folded tomorrow, it would be one less thing for me to worry about. If desperate, I could always go and watch my local team play another bunch of cloggers without getting as worked up about it. Key sera sera!
Some may find my attitude defeatist, but as I'm not up for yet another fight, I'm not going to pretend I am just to encourage others to, not that I'm trying to discourage them either. Just to be clear, I'm forever grateful to, and full of admiration for, those who've fought for our cause so often in the past.
Here's hoping that whatever PV was hoping to achieve with his tweet comes to pass and it sparks a turning point in our fortunes.
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The £15 tickets yield £12.50 net of VAT. Even if 6,500 Brighton fans all paid as adults, that would yield £81,500 - of which Charlton retain 45% after deduction of allowable expenses, which includes hundreds of stewards and the police inside the ground.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
No way Varney has tweeted it because of that.sammy391 said:Starting to get vibes that this isn’t an ‘new ownership’ rally, but a ‘put money in the transfer budget’ one…
would only be Charlton after all
20k fans paying 15 quid is 300k (and that's at adult prices). Once we've paid Brighton their share and deducted the costs from hosting the game there will probably be less than 100k left.
I'm sure Airman could give more accurate figures, but this isn't a game that's going to make us rich. It's not Man U away in front of 75k fans and live on sky.In the real world, the average price will be more like £12, maybe less, so £10 net of VAT. Based on £10 x 6,500 x 45% that’s £29k, give or take - half from the extra seats.
The average yield from a home ticket tends to be lower - more concessions - but we can more or less say that Charlton would get £90k from a 20,000 crowd - before their share of expenses is deducted. No idea what they are, but the club would do well to clear £75k. There’s a bit of ancillary income, depending on the terms of the contracts, but there’s no prize money in the EFL Cup, I believe. £100k not a bad shout.
Charlton could have said to Brighton - you can have the extra tickets if we can keep your share of the revenue from those. No idea if they did, but again it’s still only going to amount to an extra £15k.
One thing I do know is that whatever PV is up to, it has nothing to do with the match revenue.33 -
Mmmmm…….Zynex shares have evidently recovered dramatically to almost pre Covid level…..so I have been told anyway.Fanny Fanackapan said:
From what I've heard, he's running out of money NOW, and fast....AndyG said:IF the is a potential owner in the background that has started negotiations ofcourse TS will start off with a high figure to try and recoup his investment. The trouble is he has little to actually sell that is worth anything. Imagine trying to sell any business that loses millions a year ? If you dont have substantial equity to offset the losses (which we dont) it's worth whatever the smoke and mirrors man can pitch the dream for. In any normal sense of the word the club is insolvent (as are most) and worth zero. Eventually TS will realise he cant keep burning money and bail out whichever way he can but unless some very wealthy owner steps up it is going to be a couple of years of pain ahead I think. Such a shame after how he got rid of the crooks that he didnt have the sense to make better decisions early doors as things could have been very different had money been better spent. He is like alot of self made men they start to think that they know best in everything they do and turn into egocentric personalities. I just hope he isnt that mad to get rid of BG and put Martin in 😳
" A couple of years of pain " is a highly unlikely timescale.
Perhaps someone with the ability to check that out can confirm?1 - Sponsored links:
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The academy keeps producing players, selling Leaburn and others further down the line might help him keep going while he hopes for a turnaround on the pitch and a good offer for the club.Fanny Fanackapan said:
From what I've heard, he's running out of money NOW, and fast....AndyG said:IF the is a potential owner in the background that has started negotiations ofcourse TS will start off with a high figure to try and recoup his investment. The trouble is he has little to actually sell that is worth anything. Imagine trying to sell any business that loses millions a year ? If you dont have substantial equity to offset the losses (which we dont) it's worth whatever the smoke and mirrors man can pitch the dream for. In any normal sense of the word the club is insolvent (as are most) and worth zero. Eventually TS will realise he cant keep burning money and bail out whichever way he can but unless some very wealthy owner steps up it is going to be a couple of years of pain ahead I think. Such a shame after how he got rid of the crooks that he didnt have the sense to make better decisions early doors as things could have been very different had money been better spent. He is like alot of self made men they start to think that they know best in everything they do and turn into egocentric personalities. I just hope he isnt that mad to get rid of BG and put Martin in 😳
" A couple of years of pain " is a highly unlikely timescale.0 -
Ffs, are you that mad ?sammy391 said:Starting to get vibes that this isn’t an ‘new ownership’ rally, but a ‘put money in the transfer budget’ one…
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I am pretty certain that Martin or Sandgaard’s partner (forgotten her name), will read CL plus other media and forums even if he himself doesn’t..……in turn I am sure they will pass on the negative feelings of discontent amongst the fan base.swordfish said:I don't believe TS isn't aware of the growing strength of supporter discontent. Protesting would give us the chance to be vocalise our rejection of his ways and means, but it's what he sees week in week out that gets the message across, those banks of empty seats.
With all the worries in the world going on right now, I doubt the wider public are likely to feel that engaged by another campaign from disgruntled Charlton supporters though. Hell, I'm not even sure I would be!!!
I've resigned myself to it being sh*t from here on in, although I've yet to reach the point of thinking the best that I can hope for is to die in my sleep, in 20-30 years time in old age and in otherwise good health.
I'm not saying I don't care, but hey, if we folded tomorrow, it would be one less thing for me to worry about. If desperate, I could always go and watch my local team play another bunch of cloggers without getting as worked up about it. Key sera sera!
Some may find my attitude defeatist, but as I'm not up for yet another fight, I'm not going to pretend I am just to encourage others to, not that I'm trying to discourage them either. Just to be clear, I'm forever grateful to, and full of admiration for, those who've fought for our cause so often in the past.
Here's hoping that whatever PV was hoping to achieve with his tweet comes to pass and it sparks a turning point in our fortunes.1 -
Really ? Why would he do that ?mendonca said:I think Varney is simply trying to encourage a decent crowd size for a game against a PL team.4 -
It’s a danger but even TS must realise that selling the crown Jewell’s might get you some money but does nothing else for running a football club and adds no value. Eventually the club will be so crap that selling it at all might prove something of a problem. I’ve no idea if Thomas wants out or not but if he does then now is probably the best window of opportunity he’s likely to get. At present there would appear to be genuine interest. It won’t necessarily always be the case.Scoham said:
The academy keeps producing players, selling Leaburn and others further down the line might help him keep going while he hopes for a turnaround on the pitch and a good offer for the club.Fanny Fanackapan said:
From what I've heard, he's running out of money NOW, and fast....AndyG said:IF the is a potential owner in the background that has started negotiations ofcourse TS will start off with a high figure to try and recoup his investment. The trouble is he has little to actually sell that is worth anything. Imagine trying to sell any business that loses millions a year ? If you dont have substantial equity to offset the losses (which we dont) it's worth whatever the smoke and mirrors man can pitch the dream for. In any normal sense of the word the club is insolvent (as are most) and worth zero. Eventually TS will realise he cant keep burning money and bail out whichever way he can but unless some very wealthy owner steps up it is going to be a couple of years of pain ahead I think. Such a shame after how he got rid of the crooks that he didnt have the sense to make better decisions early doors as things could have been very different had money been better spent. He is like alot of self made men they start to think that they know best in everything they do and turn into egocentric personalities. I just hope he isnt that mad to get rid of BG and put Martin in 😳
" A couple of years of pain " is a highly unlikely timescale.0 -
Well…..one assumes that that scenario was always the case, especially if we were to get back to The Prem.Scoham said:
The academy keeps producing players, selling Leaburn and others further down the line might help him keep going while he hopes for a turnaround on the pitch and a good offer for the club.Fanny Fanackapan said:
From what I've heard, he's running out of money NOW, and fast....AndyG said:IF the is a potential owner in the background that has started negotiations ofcourse TS will start off with a high figure to try and recoup his investment. The trouble is he has little to actually sell that is worth anything. Imagine trying to sell any business that loses millions a year ? If you dont have substantial equity to offset the losses (which we dont) it's worth whatever the smoke and mirrors man can pitch the dream for. In any normal sense of the word the club is insolvent (as are most) and worth zero. Eventually TS will realise he cant keep burning money and bail out whichever way he can but unless some very wealthy owner steps up it is going to be a couple of years of pain ahead I think. Such a shame after how he got rid of the crooks that he didnt have the sense to make better decisions early doors as things could have been very different had money been better spent. He is like alot of self made men they start to think that they know best in everything they do and turn into egocentric personalities. I just hope he isnt that mad to get rid of BG and put Martin in 😳
" A couple of years of pain " is a highly unlikely timescale.0 -
Correct, now at $13.80, making TS existing holding worth a bit more than $200m. I don’t think he’ll be going bankrupt anytime soon.SoundAsa£ said:
Mmmmm…….Zynex shares have evidently recovered dramatically to almost pre Covid level…..so I have been told anyway.Fanny Fanackapan said:
From what I've heard, he's running out of money NOW, and fast....AndyG said:IF the is a potential owner in the background that has started negotiations ofcourse TS will start off with a high figure to try and recoup his investment. The trouble is he has little to actually sell that is worth anything. Imagine trying to sell any business that loses millions a year ? If you dont have substantial equity to offset the losses (which we dont) it's worth whatever the smoke and mirrors man can pitch the dream for. In any normal sense of the word the club is insolvent (as are most) and worth zero. Eventually TS will realise he cant keep burning money and bail out whichever way he can but unless some very wealthy owner steps up it is going to be a couple of years of pain ahead I think. Such a shame after how he got rid of the crooks that he didnt have the sense to make better decisions early doors as things could have been very different had money been better spent. He is like alot of self made men they start to think that they know best in everything they do and turn into egocentric personalities. I just hope he isnt that mad to get rid of BG and put Martin in 😳
" A couple of years of pain " is a highly unlikely timescale.
Perhaps someone with the ability to check that out can confirm?3 -
Superb game that one. Probably the best we played all season. Didn’t a ton of them bunk in for nothing though?Ferryman said:
I suppose it's The Valley and not Leicester at Upton Park - that was a great atmosphere and we won.Simonsen said:Who gives a shit about letting Brighton fans come to the game? Some people want to watch a game....let them watch it. Never bothered me when Chelsea or Watford (in the cup) brought 1000s of fans....scattered all over the East Terrace. All added to the atmosphere. Remember that....atmosphere? It used to be a thing at football.0 -
Presumably his wealth is not just that holding though. What’s he privately worth in additionSomervilleAddick said:
Correct, now at $13.80, making TS existing holding worth a bit more than $200m. I don’t think he’ll be going bankrupt anytime soon.SoundAsa£ said:
Mmmmm…….Zynex shares have evidently recovered dramatically to almost pre Covid level…..so I have been told anyway.Fanny Fanackapan said:
From what I've heard, he's running out of money NOW, and fast....AndyG said:IF the is a potential owner in the background that has started negotiations ofcourse TS will start off with a high figure to try and recoup his investment. The trouble is he has little to actually sell that is worth anything. Imagine trying to sell any business that loses millions a year ? If you dont have substantial equity to offset the losses (which we dont) it's worth whatever the smoke and mirrors man can pitch the dream for. In any normal sense of the word the club is insolvent (as are most) and worth zero. Eventually TS will realise he cant keep burning money and bail out whichever way he can but unless some very wealthy owner steps up it is going to be a couple of years of pain ahead I think. Such a shame after how he got rid of the crooks that he didnt have the sense to make better decisions early doors as things could have been very different had money been better spent. He is like alot of self made men they start to think that they know best in everything they do and turn into egocentric personalities. I just hope he isnt that mad to get rid of BG and put Martin in 😳
" A couple of years of pain " is a highly unlikely timescale.
Perhaps someone with the ability to check that out can confirm?1 -
I really wish he hasn’t got such a good reception at Wycombe. Hopefully he will stroll over to get the acclaim of the Charlton supporters at another away game soon.0
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Isn't the alleged interested party Chinese?The Red Robin said:
Strange commentFerryman said:
Would you rather Chinese than Barclay?The Red Robin said:Andrew Barclay currently going on a Hunter Biden laptop conspiracy rant on Twitter. Let’s hope he’s not involved this time round.0 -
The price peaked at $25.90.SomervilleAddick said:
Correct, now at $13.80, making TS existing holding worth a bit more than $200m. I don’t think he’ll be going bankrupt anytime soon.SoundAsa£ said:
Mmmmm…….Zynex shares have evidently recovered dramatically to almost pre Covid level…..so I have been told anyway.Fanny Fanackapan said:
From what I've heard, he's running out of money NOW, and fast....AndyG said:IF the is a potential owner in the background that has started negotiations ofcourse TS will start off with a high figure to try and recoup his investment. The trouble is he has little to actually sell that is worth anything. Imagine trying to sell any business that loses millions a year ? If you dont have substantial equity to offset the losses (which we dont) it's worth whatever the smoke and mirrors man can pitch the dream for. In any normal sense of the word the club is insolvent (as are most) and worth zero. Eventually TS will realise he cant keep burning money and bail out whichever way he can but unless some very wealthy owner steps up it is going to be a couple of years of pain ahead I think. Such a shame after how he got rid of the crooks that he didnt have the sense to make better decisions early doors as things could have been very different had money been better spent. He is like alot of self made men they start to think that they know best in everything they do and turn into egocentric personalities. I just hope he isnt that mad to get rid of BG and put Martin in 😳
" A couple of years of pain " is a highly unlikely timescale.
Perhaps someone with the ability to check that out can confirm?
https://www.google.com/search?q=zynex+stock+price+history&rlz=1C1CHBF_enGB1027GB1027&oq=Zynex+share+price&aqs=chrome.1.0i512j0i22i30.26259j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-80 -
been thinking a bit about this... just to come at this from another angle - is it possible that TS is valuing our league cup run (perhaps even the FA cup one as well) at some kind of premium? Like it could be a sticking point if we somehow win it there would be value in a QF potential tie against a big club..? Could a win against Brighton and a favourable draw (either way, big team, or potential "easier draw" to get us to a semi) give TS the value he is looking for? Maybe Varney is coming from the POV that big support geeing the team up to a big performance could be enough to get the delusion fool out??
Maybe potential new owners could have said "if you make it through we will give you X over what we are offering" and that is seen in TS's eyes as enough to bail out?
@Airman Brown interested in your opinion on this? How much potentially could a QF away to man u or newcastle on sky be worth potentially to TS and do you think it could make some kind of difference or am I chatting out of my arse as usual?3 -
I don’t think the potential rewards of the EFL Cup are material to a sale of the club.Manic_mania said:been thinking a bit about this... just to come at this from another angle - is it possible that TS is valuing our league cup run (perhaps even the FA cup one as well) at some kind of premium? Like it could be a sticking point if we somehow win it there would be value in a QF potential tie against a big club..? Could a win against Brighton and a favourable draw (either way, big team, or potential "easier draw" to get us to a semi) give TS the value he is looking for? Maybe Varney is coming from the POV that big support geeing the team up to a big performance could be enough to get the delusion fool out??
Maybe potential new owners could have said "if you make it through we will give you X over what we are offering" and that is seen in TS's eyes as enough to bail out?
@Airman Brown interested in your opinion on this? How much potentially could a QF away to man u or newcastle on sky be worth potentially to TS and do you think it could make some kind of difference or am I chatting out of my arse as usual?6 -
thanks... the reason i asked is because I keep trying to put myself in TS's shoes and other than that and the potential value of Miles is all I really have to go on because there isnt too much else I can fathom.Airman Brown said:
I don’t think the potential rewards of the EFL Cup are material to a sale of the club.Manic_mania said:been thinking a bit about this... just to come at this from another angle - is it possible that TS is valuing our league cup run (perhaps even the FA cup one as well) at some kind of premium? Like it could be a sticking point if we somehow win it there would be value in a QF potential tie against a big club..? Could a win against Brighton and a favourable draw (either way, big team, or potential "easier draw" to get us to a semi) give TS the value he is looking for? Maybe Varney is coming from the POV that big support geeing the team up to a big performance could be enough to get the delusion fool out??
Maybe potential new owners could have said "if you make it through we will give you X over what we are offering" and that is seen in TS's eyes as enough to bail out?
@Airman Brown interested in your opinion on this? How much potentially could a QF away to man u or newcastle on sky be worth potentially to TS and do you think it could make some kind of difference or am I chatting out of my arse as usual?
edit ; may be the Gomez sell on fee? what else does he actually have really as an asset?0 -
actually the more i think about it, are you sure that is the case for the sale of a club in regards to TS who doesn't have the stadium or training ground? isn't our membership in the league, this particular cup run, and player valuations all he has?Airman Brown said:
I don’t think the potential rewards of the EFL Cup are material to a sale of the club.Manic_mania said:been thinking a bit about this... just to come at this from another angle - is it possible that TS is valuing our league cup run (perhaps even the FA cup one as well) at some kind of premium? Like it could be a sticking point if we somehow win it there would be value in a QF potential tie against a big club..? Could a win against Brighton and a favourable draw (either way, big team, or potential "easier draw" to get us to a semi) give TS the value he is looking for? Maybe Varney is coming from the POV that big support geeing the team up to a big performance could be enough to get the delusion fool out??
Maybe potential new owners could have said "if you make it through we will give you X over what we are offering" and that is seen in TS's eyes as enough to bail out?
@Airman Brown interested in your opinion on this? How much potentially could a QF away to man u or newcastle on sky be worth potentially to TS and do you think it could make some kind of difference or am I chatting out of my arse as usual?0 -
At least TS has pushed me towards a new career. Running a football club is simple, according to him, though he's not done very well at it. But running a medical equipment is something he does seem to have succeeded at, so it must be absolutely piss-easy. Gonna get me some of that pain relief action, baby!
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For PV to be cryptic and get people to the game he better come up with something now!0
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I prefer the small crowds, no queue for my Bovril.Ilovelondontown said:
if you a charlton fan surely a cup game against a premier league team in front or a potentially big crowd should excite you, rather than small crowds against shit teams every other week?JordanJLD said:So why do I have to sit through small crowds and bad atmosphere week in week out, just for our supposed “new owners” to have it easy with a full crowd.2 -
I’m not sure what you think we are going to make from a run in this competition. Even if we beat Brighton, we don’t know what the fifth round draw might be and it’s unlikely the club would make £1m extra if it got to Wembley, which is obviously not very probable.Manic_mania said:
actually the more i think about it, are you sure that is the case for the sale of a club in regards to TS who doesn't have the stadium or training ground? isn't our membership in the league, this particular cup run, and player valuations all he has?Airman Brown said:
I don’t think the potential rewards of the EFL Cup are material to a sale of the club.Manic_mania said:been thinking a bit about this... just to come at this from another angle - is it possible that TS is valuing our league cup run (perhaps even the FA cup one as well) at some kind of premium? Like it could be a sticking point if we somehow win it there would be value in a QF potential tie against a big club..? Could a win against Brighton and a favourable draw (either way, big team, or potential "easier draw" to get us to a semi) give TS the value he is looking for? Maybe Varney is coming from the POV that big support geeing the team up to a big performance could be enough to get the delusion fool out??
Maybe potential new owners could have said "if you make it through we will give you X over what we are offering" and that is seen in TS's eyes as enough to bail out?
@Airman Brown interested in your opinion on this? How much potentially could a QF away to man u or newcastle on sky be worth potentially to TS and do you think it could make some kind of difference or am I chatting out of my arse as usual?
The prize for winning it is £100k, half that as losing finalists. Nothing for losing semi-finalists.
TS would lose £1m in the time it takes to get there. He might recoup something in the January transfer market, and that’s potentially much more controllable. Personally I think it’s a game of chicken now, as far as he’s concerned, but he doesn’t have much of a hand.12
