Charlton have had four managers since 2021 and are about to embark on appointing manager number five. With such instability at the club, it is almost impossible to build solid foundations and is demoralising for the players who find themselves rated by some managers and not by others.
George Dobson is currently regarded by most Charlton fans as the best player in the team but under Nigel Adkins could not hold down a starting berth. Albie Morgan was a favourite of Ben Garner but not of the managers who went before him, and so it goes on. Formation-wise, we have seen different tactical systems deployed by the various managers and consequently the team has no identity or consistency in terms of playing style.
I have written many times about the importance of the culture you build at a football club on and off the pitch and I found it interesting to hear the latest managerial casualty, Ben Garner, say that the culture of the club is flawed and that you can keep changing the manager, but until you
change the culture nothing material will change. He made no secret of the fact that he felt unsupported in terms of player recruitment, and it is never good when that is aired in public for all concerned as it only ever has one outcome – the sack! Just look at Scott Parker at Bournemouth, let alone Garner.
Many fans have openly said that they believe this is the worst team they have watched in their time supporting the club and sadly many are now voting with their feet. In my time in football, there have been low times too but I have been fortunate to oversee four promotions and two championship successes, so I think I have an understanding of what structures and strategies work and what don’t. If you look back at the state of the club on and off the pitch in 2011, there were some serious challenges, but they were met head on. Chris Powell was appointed manager and the club and the playing squad was reconstructed, resulting in the team winning League One with a record 101 points and then finishing ninth in the Championship. That experience alone should have encouraged the owner to seek to share that experience as it is the same league, if only by a few meetings, an invite to the boardroom, or an exchange of emails. But I quickly realised and was told by third parties that the owner felt that seeking advice was not necessary as ‘football is easy’.
That is his prerogative as the owner but then he went on to publicly criticise the way the club was run in the Premier League years and made comparisons with the mismanagement at Derby County, which is grossly unfair and completely out of context with a club building a Premier League squad and rebuilding its stadium at the same time. Trust me, that was some challenge, and a lot of people worked very hard with long hours and total commitment. The financial support of the board at that time and particularly Richard Murray, Bob Whitehand, Derek Chappell, David Sumners and the late Sir Maurice Hatter deserves better. I am not sure what making that criticism publicly achieved. Having accessibility to people around you with firm opinions should not be viewed as a challenge to your authority but rather a basis for good decision making.
The next few weeks will be crucial for the club as they are edging closer to the relegation places and cannot afford to keep losing matches to teams around them in the table. I understand the frustration fans are feeling as I share their pain, but what the team needs for the forthcoming three home fixtures is the support of the fans. My instincts tell me we are moving ever closer to a period of vocal protests but above all it is important we all do what we can to be part of a solution and not part of a problem.
A couple of messages PV trying to get out? I know how to sort
this mess out and please do not protest at this stage we need to be seen as positive.
Or maybe its just his thoughts and I am overthinking.
That's exactly what he is trying to say if you ask me. He is saying "Please don't protest right now - show how we get behind our team. "
That's my reading between the lines.
NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO PROTEST
He doesn't say that though. He says he understand that fans might be vocal but we need to be part of the solution & not part of the problem.
Charlton have had four managers since 2021 and are about to embark on appointing manager number five. With such instability at the club, it is almost impossible to build solid foundations and is demoralising for the players who find themselves rated by some managers and not by others.
George Dobson is currently regarded by most Charlton fans as the best player in the team but under Nigel Adkins could not hold down a starting berth. Albie Morgan was a favourite of Ben Garner but not of the managers who went before him, and so it goes on. Formation-wise, we have seen different tactical systems deployed by the various managers and consequently the team has no identity or consistency in terms of playing style.
I have written many times about the importance of the culture you build at a football club on and off the pitch and I found it interesting to hear the latest managerial casualty, Ben Garner, say that the culture of the club is flawed and that you can keep changing the manager, but until you
change the culture nothing material will change. He made no secret of the fact that he felt unsupported in terms of player recruitment, and it is never good when that is aired in public for all concerned as it only ever has one outcome – the sack! Just look at Scott Parker at Bournemouth, let alone Garner.
Many fans have openly said that they believe this is the worst team they have watched in their time supporting the club and sadly many are now voting with their feet. In my time in football, there have been low times too but I have been fortunate to oversee four promotions and two championship successes, so I think I have an understanding of what structures and strategies work and what don’t. If you look back at the state of the club on and off the pitch in 2011, there were some serious challenges, but they were met head on. Chris Powell was appointed manager and the club and the playing squad was reconstructed, resulting in the team winning League One with a record 101 points and then finishing ninth in the Championship. That experience alone should have encouraged the owner to seek to share that experience as it is the same league, if only by a few meetings, an invite to the boardroom, or an exchange of emails. But I quickly realised and was told by third parties that the owner felt that seeking advice was not necessary as ‘football is easy’.
That is his prerogative as the owner but then he went on to publicly criticise the way the club was run in the Premier League years and made comparisons with the mismanagement at Derby County, which is grossly unfair and completely out of context with a club building a Premier League squad and rebuilding its stadium at the same time. Trust me, that was some challenge, and a lot of people worked very hard with long hours and total commitment. The financial support of the board at that time and particularly Richard Murray, Bob Whitehand, Derek Chappell, David Sumners and the late Sir Maurice Hatter deserves better. I am not sure what making that criticism publicly achieved. Having accessibility to people around you with firm opinions should not be viewed as a challenge to your authority but rather a basis for good decision making.
The next few weeks will be crucial for the club as they are edging closer to the relegation places and cannot afford to keep losing matches to teams around them in the table. I understand the frustration fans are feeling as I share their pain, but what the team needs for the forthcoming three home fixtures is the support of the fans. My instincts tell me we are moving ever closer to a period of vocal protests but above all it is important we all do what we can to be part of a solution and not part of a problem.
A couple of messages PV trying to get out? I know how to sort
this mess out and please do not protest at this stage we need to be seen as positive.
Or maybe its just his thoughts and I am overthinking.
That's exactly what he is trying to say if you ask me. He is saying "Please don't protest right now - show how we get behind our team. "
That's my reading between the lines.
NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO PROTEST
He doesn't say that though. He says he understand that fans might be vocal but we need to be part of the solution & not part of the problem.
By campaigning for something, not against it.
Problem is, TS offers a visible present target whereas what follows is unknown to us, although we can get a message out there about what sort of an owner we'd like as we can't seem to attract the right ones.
Perhaps the message is that the ownership issue is a few week away from being resolved (year end?) and that between now and then, we should try and help the team as much as possible during a difficult few games, which may in turn, help any new owners, giving them the best possible chance of avoiding a catastrophic relegation. Protesting may be unnecessary and counter productive at this crucial time!!
Charlton have had four managers since 2021 and are about to embark on appointing manager number five. With such instability at the club, it is almost impossible to build solid foundations and is demoralising for the players who find themselves rated by some managers and not by others.
George Dobson is currently regarded by most Charlton fans as the best player in the team but under Nigel Adkins could not hold down a starting berth. Albie Morgan was a favourite of Ben Garner but not of the managers who went before him, and so it goes on. Formation-wise, we have seen different tactical systems deployed by the various managers and consequently the team has no identity or consistency in terms of playing style.
I have written many times about the importance of the culture you build at a football club on and off the pitch and I found it interesting to hear the latest managerial casualty, Ben Garner, say that the culture of the club is flawed and that you can keep changing the manager, but until you
change the culture nothing material will change. He made no secret of the fact that he felt unsupported in terms of player recruitment, and it is never good when that is aired in public for all concerned as it only ever has one outcome – the sack! Just look at Scott Parker at Bournemouth, let alone Garner.
Many fans have openly said that they believe this is the worst team they have watched in their time supporting the club and sadly many are now voting with their feet. In my time in football, there have been low times too but I have been fortunate to oversee four promotions and two championship successes, so I think I have an understanding of what structures and strategies work and what don’t. If you look back at the state of the club on and off the pitch in 2011, there were some serious challenges, but they were met head on. Chris Powell was appointed manager and the club and the playing squad was reconstructed, resulting in the team winning League One with a record 101 points and then finishing ninth in the Championship. That experience alone should have encouraged the owner to seek to share that experience as it is the same league, if only by a few meetings, an invite to the boardroom, or an exchange of emails. But I quickly realised and was told by third parties that the owner felt that seeking advice was not necessary as ‘football is easy’.
That is his prerogative as the owner but then he went on to publicly criticise the way the club was run in the Premier League years and made comparisons with the mismanagement at Derby County, which is grossly unfair and completely out of context with a club building a Premier League squad and rebuilding its stadium at the same time. Trust me, that was some challenge, and a lot of people worked very hard with long hours and total commitment. The financial support of the board at that time and particularly Richard Murray, Bob Whitehand, Derek Chappell, David Sumners and the late Sir Maurice Hatter deserves better. I am not sure what making that criticism publicly achieved. Having accessibility to people around you with firm opinions should not be viewed as a challenge to your authority but rather a basis for good decision making.
The next few weeks will be crucial for the club as they are edging closer to the relegation places and cannot afford to keep losing matches to teams around them in the table. I understand the frustration fans are feeling as I share their pain, but what the team needs for the forthcoming three home fixtures is the support of the fans. My instincts tell me we are moving ever closer to a period of vocal protests but above all it is important we all do what we can to be part of a solution and not part of a problem.
A couple of messages PV trying to get out? I know how to sort
this mess out and please do not protest at this stage we need to be seen as positive.
Or maybe its just his thoughts and I am overthinking.
Agreed.
About PV trying yo get some messages out, or Rose over thinking?
Charlton have had four managers since 2021 and are about to embark on appointing manager number five. With such instability at the club, it is almost impossible to build solid foundations and is demoralising for the players who find themselves rated by some managers and not by others.
George Dobson is currently regarded by most Charlton fans as the best player in the team but under Nigel Adkins could not hold down a starting berth. Albie Morgan was a favourite of Ben Garner but not of the managers who went before him, and so it goes on. Formation-wise, we have seen different tactical systems deployed by the various managers and consequently the team has no identity or consistency in terms of playing style.
I have written many times about the importance of the culture you build at a football club on and off the pitch and I found it interesting to hear the latest managerial casualty, Ben Garner, say that the culture of the club is flawed and that you can keep changing the manager, but until you
change the culture nothing material will change. He made no secret of the fact that he felt unsupported in terms of player recruitment, and it is never good when that is aired in public for all concerned as it only ever has one outcome – the sack! Just look at Scott Parker at Bournemouth, let alone Garner.
Many fans have openly said that they believe this is the worst team they have watched in their time supporting the club and sadly many are now voting with their feet. In my time in football, there have been low times too but I have been fortunate to oversee four promotions and two championship successes, so I think I have an understanding of what structures and strategies work and what don’t. If you look back at the state of the club on and off the pitch in 2011, there were some serious challenges, but they were met head on. Chris Powell was appointed manager and the club and the playing squad was reconstructed, resulting in the team winning League One with a record 101 points and then finishing ninth in the Championship. That experience alone should have encouraged the owner to seek to share that experience as it is the same league, if only by a few meetings, an invite to the boardroom, or an exchange of emails. But I quickly realised and was told by third parties that the owner felt that seeking advice was not necessary as ‘football is easy’.
That is his prerogative as the owner but then he went on to publicly criticise the way the club was run in the Premier League years and made comparisons with the mismanagement at Derby County, which is grossly unfair and completely out of context with a club building a Premier League squad and rebuilding its stadium at the same time. Trust me, that was some challenge, and a lot of people worked very hard with long hours and total commitment. The financial support of the board at that time and particularly Richard Murray, Bob Whitehand, Derek Chappell, David Sumners and the late Sir Maurice Hatter deserves better. I am not sure what making that criticism publicly achieved. Having accessibility to people around you with firm opinions should not be viewed as a challenge to your authority but rather a basis for good decision making.
The next few weeks will be crucial for the club as they are edging closer to the relegation places and cannot afford to keep losing matches to teams around them in the table. I understand the frustration fans are feeling as I share their pain, but what the team needs for the forthcoming three home fixtures is the support of the fans. My instincts tell me we are moving ever closer to a period of vocal protests but above all it is important we all do what we can to be part of a solution and not part of a problem.
A couple of messages PV trying to get out? I know how to sort
this mess out and please do not protest at this stage we need to be seen as positive.
Or maybe its just his thoughts and I am overthinking.
Agreed.
About PV trying yo get some messages out, or Rose over thinking?
I hope PV's comments doesn't backfire with TS if there is a potential sale involving PV.
The optimist in me says hopefully we are at a stage where Varney can poke a bit of fun and knows it's completely out of TS's hands whilst cryptically telling us be patient.
I think PV’s message is TS has screwed up and to avoid more of the same or similar - another experiment - then we need to get down the valley and help convince whoever his contact is, to part with sone proper dough and rid us from all these clowns who think they can buck the football system with sone sort of clever approach - which they can’t !!
Love all the interpretation of PV's words. It reminds me of the good folk of Jerusalem interpreting Brian's or that other guy's words. People are desperately hoping PV is the next messiah (including me).
Charlton have had four managers since 2021 and are about to embark on appointing manager number five. With such instability at the club, it is almost impossible to build solid foundations and is demoralising for the players who find themselves rated by some managers and not by others.
George Dobson is currently regarded by most Charlton fans as the best player in the team but under Nigel Adkins could not hold down a starting berth. Albie Morgan was a favourite of Ben Garner but not of the managers who went before him, and so it goes on. Formation-wise, we have seen different tactical systems deployed by the various managers and consequently the team has no identity or consistency in terms of playing style.
I have written many times about the importance of the culture you build at a football club on and off the pitch and I found it interesting to hear the latest managerial casualty, Ben Garner, say that the culture of the club is flawed and that you can keep changing the manager, but until you
change the culture nothing material will change. He made no secret of the fact that he felt unsupported in terms of player recruitment, and it is never good when that is aired in public for all concerned as it only ever has one outcome – the sack! Just look at Scott Parker at Bournemouth, let alone Garner.
Many fans have openly said that they believe this is the worst team they have watched in their time supporting the club and sadly many are now voting with their feet. In my time in football, there have been low times too but I have been fortunate to oversee four promotions and two championship successes, so I think I have an understanding of what structures and strategies work and what don’t. If you look back at the state of the club on and off the pitch in 2011, there were some serious challenges, but they were met head on. Chris Powell was appointed manager and the club and the playing squad was reconstructed, resulting in the team winning League One with a record 101 points and then finishing ninth in the Championship. That experience alone should have encouraged the owner to seek to share that experience as it is the same league, if only by a few meetings, an invite to the boardroom, or an exchange of emails. But I quickly realised and was told by third parties that the owner felt that seeking advice was not necessary as ‘football is easy’.
That is his prerogative as the owner but then he went on to publicly criticise the way the club was run in the Premier League years and made comparisons with the mismanagement at Derby County, which is grossly unfair and completely out of context with a club building a Premier League squad and rebuilding its stadium at the same time. Trust me, that was some challenge, and a lot of people worked very hard with long hours and total commitment. The financial support of the board at that time and particularly Richard Murray, Bob Whitehand, Derek Chappell, David Sumners and the late Sir Maurice Hatter deserves better. I am not sure what making that criticism publicly achieved. Having accessibility to people around you with firm opinions should not be viewed as a challenge to your authority but rather a basis for good decision making.
The next few weeks will be crucial for the club as they are edging closer to the relegation places and cannot afford to keep losing matches to teams around them in the table. I understand the frustration fans are feeling as I share their pain, but what the team needs for the forthcoming three home fixtures is the support of the fans. My instincts tell me we are moving ever closer to a period of vocal protests but above all it is important we all do what we can to be part of a solution and not part of a problem.
A couple of messages PV trying to get out? I know how to sort
this mess out and please do not protest at this stage we need to be seen as positive.
Or maybe its just his thoughts and I am overthinking.
Agreed.
About PV trying yo get some messages out, or Rose over thinking?
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Problem is, TS offers a visible present target whereas what follows is unknown to us, although we can get a message out there about what sort of an owner we'd like as we can't seem to attract the right ones.
Protesting may be unnecessary and counter productive at this crucial time!!
Will the dane admit football isn't easy and will he do something about it
Or, will he do absolutely nothing 🤔