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Dean Holden - Jan 2024: now assistant manager at Al Ettifaq in Saudi Arabia (p46)

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  • Sage said:
    Potential new song for our manager…

    Oh baby, do you know what he’s worth
    Dean Holden is the best on Earth
    With his ginger hair he’s just what we need
    Taking Charlton up the football league


    If this takes off I’ll take my credit. If it doesn’t, you have never heard of Sage before and I was never here. :smile: 
    A  long Friday was it?!
  • edited April 2023
    cabbles said:
    Still needs to prove himself imo.  I think he’s got more about him than Garner, but we’re an easy mark as fans and a few pints down the oak and soundbites about no dickheads means very little given the last few years.  It’s good that he did get involved the fans, but for me, all that matters is results.  I’d take a team of dickheads if we got out this league 
    Imposing yourself on the pitch on a Saturday is good, you can’t go out there and be bullied by the opposition.

    I think the “no dickheads” policy was more likely in regards to presence around Sparrows Lane etc. which I very much subscribe to - a harmonious dressing room will be pivotal to a promotion season.

    Like you’d take a team of dickheads if it meant promotion, I’d also take a team of Sunday league talent if it meant promotion. Reality is that filling your team with Roger Johnsons and Marcus Maddisons doesn’t get promoted.
  • Holden down the pub again last night. What a mug.
  • edited April 2023
    Still, he's a nice guy so we have to ignore what's happening on the pitch. 

    Excuses disappear next season. 
  • cs1986 said:
    Holden down the pub again last night. What a mug.
    Just win games ffs
  • He’s earned his shot at next season but assuming he gets support during the window he’ll get much less slack next season.
  • cs1986 said:
    Holden down the pub again last night. What a mug.
    No harm in going to the pub win or loose. I would not have extended his contract until the end of the season. But now he must be given a good run as manager at least a season  and the financial backing.
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  • Croydon said:
    Dont get the problem? - Man goes pub

    That and the complaints about how Fraser celebrated our goal at Milton Keynes

    Christ some fans need to get out more themselves
    Some fans need to stop hero worshipping every player/manager just because they're associated with the club. You should have to earn admiration, not just get it as standard.
    "Just win games"... So the man cant have a life, even if we lose, he has to go home and sit in his chair thinking constantly about work?

    Get a grip of yourself
  • edited April 2023
    Croydon said:
    Croydon said:
    Dont get the problem? - Man goes pub

    That and the complaints about how Fraser celebrated our goal at Milton Keynes

    Christ some fans need to get out more themselves
    Some fans need to stop hero worshipping every player/manager just because they're associated with the club. You should have to earn admiration, not just get it as standard.
    "Just win games"... So the man cant have a life, even if we lose, he has to go home and sit in his chair thinking constantly about work?

    Get a grip of yourself
    He could go to any pub in the country, you think it's just coincidence he goes on his own to the main home pub? Nothing but a PR exercise. Not my fault you can't see that
    Crap PR exercise seeing its taken nearly 24-hours for it to be mentioned on here

    Unless it got skirted over on the Post Match Thread, nothing on twitter either - Nothing to do with hero worship or admiration - I'm not a mug to care about what people get up to after a game
  • Croydon said:
    Croydon said:
    Dont get the problem? - Man goes pub

    That and the complaints about how Fraser celebrated our goal at Milton Keynes

    Christ some fans need to get out more themselves
    Some fans need to stop hero worshipping every player/manager just because they're associated with the club. You should have to earn admiration, not just get it as standard.
    "Just win games"... So the man cant have a life, even if we lose, he has to go home and sit in his chair thinking constantly about work?

    Get a grip of yourself
    He could go to any pub in the country, you think it's just coincidence he goes on his own to the main home pub? Nothing but a PR exercise. Not my fault you can't see that
    Is it not part of his job to try and get the fans on-side? I think he recognises the role the fans can play, also fair play to him for not just doing it when we win.

    As for his performance, we are performing at the level you would expect of this squad, so he’s done decent enough in my book 
  • Croydon said:
    Croydon said:
    Dont get the problem? - Man goes pub

    That and the complaints about how Fraser celebrated our goal at Milton Keynes

    Christ some fans need to get out more themselves
    Some fans need to stop hero worshipping every player/manager just because they're associated with the club. You should have to earn admiration, not just get it as standard.
    "Just win games"... So the man cant have a life, even if we lose, he has to go home and sit in his chair thinking constantly about work?

    Get a grip of yourself
    He could go to any pub in the country, you think it's just coincidence he goes on his own to the main home pub? Nothing but a PR exercise. Not my fault you can't see that
    Crap PR exercise seeing its taken nearly 24-hours for it to be mentioned on here

    Unless it got skirted over on the Post Match Thread, nothing on twitter either - Nothing to do with hero worship or admiration - I'm not a mug to care about what people get up to after a game
    I can upload a picture if you don't believe it. I dont do twitter etc. I werent there but my sister was who goes home and away. Its weird going to the Charlton pub often with the fans. Especially after losing to morecambe at home.
  • Croydon said:
    Dont get the problem? - Man goes pub

    That and the complaints about how Fraser celebrated our goal at Milton Keynes

    Christ some fans need to get out more themselves
    Some fans need to stop hero worshipping every player/manager just because they're associated with the club. You should have to earn admiration, not just get it as standard.
    Exactly this. Too many think players and managers are good just cause the play or manage us. He's shite for me. We are way to soft and accommodating as a fan base of poor players and managers
  • edited April 2023
    cs1986 said:
    Croydon said:
    Croydon said:
    Dont get the problem? - Man goes pub

    That and the complaints about how Fraser celebrated our goal at Milton Keynes

    Christ some fans need to get out more themselves
    Some fans need to stop hero worshipping every player/manager just because they're associated with the club. You should have to earn admiration, not just get it as standard.
    "Just win games"... So the man cant have a life, even if we lose, he has to go home and sit in his chair thinking constantly about work?

    Get a grip of yourself
    He could go to any pub in the country, you think it's just coincidence he goes on his own to the main home pub? Nothing but a PR exercise. Not my fault you can't see that
    Crap PR exercise seeing its taken nearly 24-hours for it to be mentioned on here

    Unless it got skirted over on the Post Match Thread, nothing on twitter either - Nothing to do with hero worship or admiration - I'm not a mug to care about what people get up to after a game
    I can upload a picture if you don't believe it. I dont do twitter etc. I werent there but my sister was who goes home and away. Its weird going to the Charlton pub often with the fans. Especially after losing to morecambe at home.
    Oh I believe you... Yet doesnt a successful PR exercise involve making sure as many people know about it as possible?
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  • cs1986 said:
    Croydon said:
    Croydon said:
    Dont get the problem? - Man goes pub

    That and the complaints about how Fraser celebrated our goal at Milton Keynes

    Christ some fans need to get out more themselves
    Some fans need to stop hero worshipping every player/manager just because they're associated with the club. You should have to earn admiration, not just get it as standard.
    "Just win games"... So the man cant have a life, even if we lose, he has to go home and sit in his chair thinking constantly about work?

    Get a grip of yourself
    He could go to any pub in the country, you think it's just coincidence he goes on his own to the main home pub? Nothing but a PR exercise. Not my fault you can't see that
    Crap PR exercise seeing its taken nearly 24-hours for it to be mentioned on here

    Unless it got skirted over on the Post Match Thread, nothing on twitter either - Nothing to do with hero worship or admiration - I'm not a mug to care about what people get up to after a game
    I can upload a picture if you don't believe it. I dont do twitter etc. I werent there but my sister was who goes home and away. Its weird going to the Charlton pub often with the fans. Especially after losing to morecambe at home.
    Oh I believe you... Yet doesnt a successful PR exercise involve making sure as many people know about it as possible?
    Good point buddy 👍
  • I think Holden is a decent bloke, an upgrade on Garner and Jackson, but until he got the job here his career was going nowhere.  For me, I’m not a fan of this mixing with the fans down the pub.  To be fair to him he fronted up after a performance like that, and I know he’s gone down there after wins too.  It’s a little contrived imo.  He has the majority on his side for now and quite rightly, he’s inherited crap.  However, next season the fans will afford less patience.  I don’t really care for seeing owners, players or managers fraternizing with the fans unless we’re making progress or smashing it.  

    Too many players get idolized in today’s modern game.  To me the majority of footballers are walking cliches that get paid too much money.  
  • Croydon said:
    Croydon said:
    Dont get the problem? - Man goes pub

    That and the complaints about how Fraser celebrated our goal at Milton Keynes

    Christ some fans need to get out more themselves
    Some fans need to stop hero worshipping every player/manager just because they're associated with the club. You should have to earn admiration, not just get it as standard.
    "Just win games"... So the man cant have a life, even if we lose, he has to go home and sit in his chair thinking constantly about work?

    Get a grip of yourself
    He could go to any pub in the country, you think it's just coincidence he goes on his own to the main home pub? Nothing but a PR exercise. Not my fault you can't see that
    Sorry
    You are entitled to your opinion but IMO you are constantly in the most negative postings on this forum Always happy to criticise and find it hard to find any praise
    I was down the Oak last night when Dean came along - happy to chat and have pics take .Seems like a good bloke in my book but results on the pitch may or may not dictate otherwise
    Lets give him some time before we can realistically judge him but please feel free to have a pop at this post in your usual negative way

    You'd be negative with a username like that.
  • Get down from the ceiling @Croydon :)
  • cabbles said:
    Still needs to prove himself imo.  I think he’s got more about him than Garner, but we’re an easy mark as fans and a few pints down the oak and soundbites about no dickheads means very little given the last few years.  It’s good that he did get involved the fans, but for me, all that matters is results.  I’d take a team of dickheads if we got out this league 

    We would get out of this League/division with a team of dickheads and it's called League 2.
  • edited April 2023
    Christmas came early for Holden when he was given the job.
    However, despite my reservations he has deserved a new contract and needs to be given a chance to bring in his own players and see what he is made of.
    A major problem for Holden may be the drawn out affair of the takeover and so may have severe limitations on who he can bring in.
    As a guy he seems on the level and I cannot see a problem going into the boozer after the game whilst he seems to have the fans on his side.  Perhaps he can learn a few things and get some new ideas.
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