Callum my man i'm going to need you to explain to me how on earth Italy are in pot 4?
I get they didn't win their group but they're currently ranked 8th in the world and 5 months ago came 3rd in the Nations league. How are they in a lower pot than the likes of Scotland and Slovenia?
Callum my man i'm going to need you to explain to me how on earth Italy are in pot 4?
I get they didn't win their group but they're currently ranked 8th in the world and 5 months ago came 3rd in the Nations league. How are they in a lower pot than the likes of Scotland and Slovenia?
Because they got amongst the least amount of points to Qualify out of everyone - The combined table is at the bottom here
Callum my man i'm going to need you to explain to me how on earth Italy are in pot 4?
I get they didn't win their group but they're currently ranked 8th in the world and 5 months ago came 3rd in the Nations league. How are they in a lower pot than the likes of Scotland and Slovenia?
As above, Italy got one of the fewest points tallies of those teams who qualified automatically, which is what the pots are based on.
The 10 qualifying group winners get first priority. They make up five teams from Pot 1 (plus the hosts for six) and the first five teams of Pot 2. The best performing second placed team (Austria, 19pts from 8) fills the last Pot 2 position.
The 10 qualifying runners up are split between one Pot 2 team for the best performing (Austria), six Pot 3 teams for the next best and three Pot 4 teams for the worst three.
Italy, with only 14pts from 8 games, were one of the worst performing runners up and missed the cut off for Pot 3 by one point.
Having said all the above, I still think it’s a silly system. The likes of Albania and Romania have benefitted massively from having “weaker” qualifying groups.
While the Netherlands and Italy in particular suffered from having two teams ranked in the top four in the world in their group.
If the pots were based on October’s FIFA ranking, they look a lot more sensible. Can only assume this is UEFA being petty and not wanting to rely on FIFA for anything?
FIFA rank Pot 1: Germany, France, England, Belgium, Portugal, Netherlands FIFA rank Pot 2: Spain, Italy, Croatia, Switzerland, Denmark, Austria FIFA rank Pot 3: Serbia, Hungary, Scotland, Turkey, Czech Rep, Romania FIFA rank Pot 4: Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania, Playoff A, Playoff B, Playoff C
The Draw for the Finals is @ 5:15pm tonight... available on BBC2
Is that programming or the actual draw? Will be booking flights for England matches. Imagine a direct flight to the group stage game will probably 5x within a minute of the location and date being announced.
The Draw for the Finals is @ 5:15pm tonight... available on BBC2
Is that programming or the actual draw? Will be booking flights for England matches. Imagine a direct flight to the group stage game will probably 5x within a minute of the location and date being announced.
The Draw for the Finals is @ 5:15pm tonight... available on BBC2
Is that programming or the actual draw? Will be booking flights for England matches. Imagine a direct flight to the group stage game will probably 5x within a minute of the location and date being announced.
Yep, hence why I’ve booked my flight already to Frankfurt. One way only cost me £42. Once there it will be a train journey to wherever we’re playing.
The Draw for the Finals is @ 5:15pm tonight... available on BBC2
Is that programming or the actual draw? Will be booking flights for England matches. Imagine a direct flight to the group stage game will probably 5x within a minute of the location and date being announced.
Yep, hence why I’ve booked my flight already to Frankfurt. One way only cost me £42. Once there it will be a train journey to wherever we’re playing.
Frankfurt looks like a good base, judging by where the venues are. If England end up in Stuttgart, Dusseldorf or Berlin got mates there that might be able to wrangle tickets, and as long as Portugal are not nearby hopefully flights won't be too mental from here, but I may be hoping a bit much there...
The Draw for the Finals is @ 5:15pm tonight... available on BBC2
Is that programming or the actual draw? Will be booking flights for England matches. Imagine a direct flight to the group stage game will probably 5x within a minute of the location and date being announced.
Yep, hence why I’ve booked my flight already to Frankfurt. One way only cost me £42. Once there it will be a train journey to wherever we’re playing.
I’ve got a 2 year old so don’t have the luxury of visiting anywhere. Excluding the final I doubt I’ll even stay at a hotel throughout my time there as will be in and out as quick as possible.
Having said all the above, I still think it’s a silly system. The likes of Albania and Romania have benefitted massively from having “weaker” qualifying groups.
While the Netherlands and Italy in particular suffered from having two teams ranked in the top four in the world in their group.
If the pots were based on October’s FIFA ranking, they look a lot more sensible. Can only assume this is UEFA being petty and not wanting to rely on FIFA for anything?
FIFA rank Pot 1: Germany, France, England, Belgium, Portugal, Netherlands FIFA rank Pot 2: Spain, Italy, Croatia, Switzerland, Denmark, Austria FIFA rank Pot 3: Serbia, Hungary, Scotland, Turkey, Czech Rep, Romania FIFA rank Pot 4: Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania, Playoff A, Playoff B, Playoff C
That’s not right:
Who are in the pots for Euro 2024?
Pot 1: Germany (hosts), Portugal, France, Spain, Belgium, England.
Pot 2: Hungary, Turkey, Romania, Denmark, Albania, Austria.
Pot 3: Netherlands, Scotland, Croatia, Slovenia, Slovakia, Czech Republic.
Pot 4: Italy, Serbia, Switzerland, play-off winner A, play-off winner B, play-off winner C.
Path A - Wales (29), Poland (31), Finland (59), Estonia (122); Path B - Ukraine (22), Bosnia-Herzegovina (69), Iceland (71), Israel (75); (Path C) Greece (47), Georgia (77), Luxembourg (83), Kazakhstan (100).
What’s the best and worst possible draw?
Best: Albania, Scotland (players we know well), Play Off Winner B or C?
Yeah I was saying that’s what the pots would’ve been if they were based on world ranking. But they’re not. Think I posted the actual pots on the previous page.
The European Championship is no longer for the elite teams. Ditch the qualifying and start the tournament a week earlier with all 55 teams. Have a pre tournament knock out phase.
The Wales Poland game looks a lot more interesting than the England game. I think I will watch the England first half and then watch the Wales game as it kicks off 45 mins later.
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I get they didn't win their group but they're currently ranked 8th in the world and 5 months ago came 3rd in the Nations league. How are they in a lower pot than the likes of Scotland and Slovenia?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying?wprov=sfla1
The 10 qualifying group winners get first priority. They make up five teams from Pot 1 (plus the hosts for six) and the first five teams of Pot 2. The best performing second placed team (Austria, 19pts from 8) fills the last Pot 2 position.
The 10 qualifying runners up are split between one Pot 2 team for the best performing (Austria), six Pot 3 teams for the next best and three Pot 4 teams for the worst three.
Italy, with only 14pts from 8 games, were one of the worst performing runners up and missed the cut off for Pot 3 by one point.
Here’s a wiki article with the rankings if interested: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying#Overall_ranking
If the pots were based on October’s FIFA ranking, they look a lot more sensible. Can only assume this is UEFA being petty and not wanting to rely on FIFA for anything?
FIFA rank Pot 1: Germany, France, England, Belgium, Portugal, Netherlands
FIFA rank Pot 2: Spain, Italy, Croatia, Switzerland, Denmark, Austria
FIFA rank Pot 3: Serbia, Hungary, Scotland, Turkey, Czech Rep, Romania
FIFA rank Pot 4: Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania, Playoff A, Playoff B, Playoff C
Who are in the pots for Euro 2024?
Pot 1: Germany (hosts), Portugal, France, Spain, Belgium, England.
Pot 2: Hungary, Turkey, Romania, Denmark, Albania, Austria.
Pot 3: Netherlands, Scotland, Croatia, Slovenia, Slovakia, Czech Republic.
Pot 4: Italy, Serbia, Switzerland, play-off winner A, play-off winner B, play-off winner C.
Path A - Wales (29), Poland (31), Finland (59), Estonia (122); Path B - Ukraine (22), Bosnia-Herzegovina (69), Iceland (71), Israel (75); (Path C) Greece (47), Georgia (77), Luxembourg (83), Kazakhstan (100).
What’s the best and worst possible draw?
Best: Albania, Scotland (players we know well), Play Off Winner B or C?
Worst: Hungary, Netherlands, Italy?
Looking like Georgia v Greece for the Play-off C place in Group F with Portugal, Czech Republic and Turkey.
Poland 1-0 Estonia (Estonia down to 10 men)
Wales 2-1 Finland
Play-off B HT scores:
Bosnia 0-0 Ukraine
Israel 1-2 Iceland
Ukraine or Iceland will join Group E with Belgium, Slovakia and Romania.
Georgia or Greece will join Group F with Turkey, Portugal and Czech Republic.
Correction, I got the England time wrong!