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  • If Stokes has to drop out, Broad for captain imo. The only one with the gravitas and the aggression. Pope isn't in the right place for the Bazball job imo
  • edited June 2023
    If Stokes isnt fully fit then hDuckete should drop out & Foakes replaces him to keep wicket & Bairstow plays just as a batsman. Stoke wont be missed as a bowler as he's hardly sent down any deliveries this Test. Bowlers being Anderson, Broad, Robinson and a.n other. Root can be the spinner. 
    We getting thrashed?

    Crawley's stats say he should have been dropped ages ago.  Duckett should never have been picked.  Pope should never have been asked to bat at 3. Wood should have played.  Foakes should have played.

    We are playing the best team in the world that boast the 1, 2 and 3 best batsman in the world and the 3rd and 6th best bowlers and we have more than a punchers chance.  Much more.

    Personally I would not have picked about 6 players that are playing, for one reason or another, but that's only from watching 35 years of test cricket.  Stokes has binned 135 years of conventional thinking.

    If we went into this series in the Strauss/Flower mindset we would have lost 5-0 because we can't play like them, with the players we have got, and expect to win.




  • Leuth said:
    If Stokes has to drop out, Broad for captain imo. The only one with the gravitas and the aggression. Pope isn't in the right place for the Bazball job imo
    Harry Brook has a presence about him and is unlikely to back down. But I agree that Broad is the likely candidate if only that giving it to Brook would be seen as a snub to Pope. The concern with Broad though is overs bowled - 32 to date - and he isn't going to be playing more than four of the Tests. So that really only leaves one other candidate - Root as long as he is the McCullum version of Root and not the one who used to skipper the side.   
  • edited June 2023
    Leuth said:
    If Stokes has to drop out, Broad for captain imo. The only one with the gravitas and the aggression. Pope isn't in the right place for the Bazball job imo
    If Stokes does drop out, fuck it go full bazball and make Livingstone captain.  Wood and Livingstone for Ali and Stokes.  Why not? 

    In all seriousness if Stokes can't play its either Broad or Root as skipper.
  • You can't make Pope VC unless you expect him to step up as acting Captain. Not an obvious choice for me, but McCullum will know him better.


  • I'm at the edge and front of the Hollies, which is similar to being in the sitting down group at the front of the away end  :D
    We’re in the one to the right of the hollies which I’m calling Ashley Barnes stand. The lower bit though. Nice to have a different view as was in Raglan for last 2 days. 

    Jimmy just got Carey 
    That's where we are tomorrow, Stanley Barnes is it?  Front of the upper though I think.
    Yes that’s the one. Looks like an unfinished extension. Hopefully if you’re at the front you’ll still be able to see the screen for review/replays 
    We were 5th row of the lower - perfect seats.

    Class day's cricket.  Bloody hot in the afternoon but really good.
  • Weather apps say heavy rain this morning. Anyone in the area to say what’s really happening?
  • Whatever Happens this has been a great test match and you have to give England a lot of credit for making it that way .I hope the weather doesn't spoil it ..despite the bravery of England I think the Aussies will get home with 3 wickets to spare.
  • Australias to lose. Hopefully get Khawaja and Head early then we have a real chance.
  • edited June 2023
    Weather apps say heavy rain this morning. Anyone in the area to say what’s really happening?
    Been raining solidly up here since about 4am.

    Supposed to go on until about 2.  I'm worried it'll be a washout.  Hoping the drainage is very good!
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  • When was the last time someone batted on all 5 days of an Ashes test, or any test for that matter? 
  • edited June 2023
    Cafc43v3r said:
    When was the last time someone batted on all 5 days of an Ashes test, or any test for that matter? 
    Rory Burns did it at some point.

    Edit, Ashes Test, and at Edgbaston!

    https://www.cricketcountry.com/articles/facts-and-figures/rory-burns-becomes-only-the-10th-player-to-bat-on-all-five-days-of-a-test-match-876209
  • Chucking it down now.
  • 8/1 draw when the rain looks bad today up until middayish, is it worth getting on it? surely the bookies factor this in? 
  • Assuming play can go onto 7.30pm then even if they didnt start until after lunch it would still leave time enough for 70 overs. Plenty of time to score 180 runs.....or 7 wickets of course.
  • day 5 pitches are notoriously difficult to score on, the overcast/rainy conditions also help us. Here's hoping for a small window of play this morning, if we can stop/start a bit that would be perfect. 
  • Raining, it's going to be cloudy and damp like a county championship last day, all on for some rock n roll cricket
  • no cricket til after lunch at the earliest, which will be taken at 12:30
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  • no cricket til after lunch at the earliest, which will be taken at 12:30
    It boils my piss this.  If they can play at 12:45 they won't because they have to take lunch? 

    Unlikely today but its happened in the past when they could be playing and don't. 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    no cricket til after lunch at the earliest, which will be taken at 12:30
    It boils my piss this.  If they can play at 12:45 they won't because they have to take lunch? 

    Unlikely today but its happened in the past when they could be playing and don't. 
    pretty sure they're taking lunch early specifically so they can fit more overs in and that the pitch won't be ready before 1pm
  • 8/1 draw when the rain looks bad today up until middayish, is it worth getting on it? surely the bookies factor this in? 
    Currently on Betfair:

    England 2.02
    Australia 2.54
    Draw 8.8

    England might need as few as 20 overs to bowl Australia out if the overhead conditions are prevalent. Australia probably could, especially if Head gets going, reach their target in 40 overs. So we could be talking about a maximum of three hours play. Forecast is better as the day goes on.

  • Can't see much cricket before 1.30, still very cloudy in Birmingham 
  • 8/1 draw when the rain looks bad today up until middayish, is it worth getting on it? surely the bookies factor this in? 
    Currently on Betfair:

    England 2.02
    Australia 2.54
    Draw 8.8

    England might need as few as 20 overs to bowl Australia out if the overhead conditions are prevalent. Australia probably could, especially if Head gets going, reach their target in 40 overs. So we could be talking about a maximum of three hours play. Forecast is better as the day goes on.

    Looking the forecast there's a 3-4 hour window this afternoon before the rain returns. They won't be able to play the moment the rain stops, so I reckon your looking at 2-3 hours play at most today
  • William Hill offering 4/1 against a wicket falling in the first three overs
  • 8/1 draw when the rain looks bad today up until middayish, is it worth getting on it? surely the bookies factor this in? 
    Currently on Betfair:

    England 2.02
    Australia 2.54
    Draw 8.8

    England might need as few as 20 overs to bowl Australia out if the overhead conditions are prevalent. Australia probably could, especially if Head gets going, reach their target in 40 overs. So we could be talking about a maximum of three hours play. Forecast is better as the day goes on.

    Looking the forecast there's a 3-4 hour window this afternoon before the rain returns. They won't be able to play the moment the rain stops, so I reckon your looking at 2-3 hours play at most today
    A single, two-hour session would suit England down to the ground. There would be only one winner. 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    no cricket til after lunch at the earliest, which will be taken at 12:30
    It boils my piss this.  If they can play at 12:45 they won't because they have to take lunch? 

    Unlikely today but its happened in the past when they could be playing and don't. 
    pretty sure they're taking lunch early specifically so they can fit more overs in and that the pitch won't be ready before 1pm
    But why restrict yourself by "taking lunch" at all?  As soon as its playable get out there? 
  • 8/1 draw when the rain looks bad today up until middayish, is it worth getting on it? surely the bookies factor this in? 
    Currently on Betfair:

    England 2.02
    Australia 2.54
    Draw 8.8

    England might need as few as 20 overs to bowl Australia out if the overhead conditions are prevalent. Australia probably could, especially if Head gets going, reach their target in 40 overs. So we could be talking about a maximum of three hours play. Forecast is better as the day goes on.


    The draw has now drifted out to 11.00. England have stayed at 2.02 but the Aussies are in to 2.40
  • 8/1 draw when the rain looks bad today up until middayish, is it worth getting on it? surely the bookies factor this in? 
    Currently on Betfair:

    England 2.02
    Australia 2.54
    Draw 8.8

    England might need as few as 20 overs to bowl Australia out if the overhead conditions are prevalent. Australia probably could, especially if Head gets going, reach their target in 40 overs. So we could be talking about a maximum of three hours play. Forecast is better as the day goes on.


    The draw has now drifted out to 11.00. England have stayed at 2.02 but the Aussies are in to 2.40
    England even money with 365 and Austraila 13/10
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