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  • He might become a good player, he might not. What matters is that he currently isn't good enough in possession to be starting in our midfield every week.
  • edited October 29
    I noticed on Saturday he calls for the ball but looks as though he really doesn't want it.
    He gets himself in positions where the defence have to bypass him to move the ball forward.
    Hiding we used to call it.
    No argument about his energy. He can press no doubt.
    But his offensive play is completely non existent.
    I get he's young and he may well turn out to be a future talent, but it's really not evident on much of the appearances I have seen? He is bereft of any real self confidence when in possession of the ball. That can be managed of course.
    I was hoping he would really push on this season and we'd see something similar to Aribo but that looks less and less likely as each game passes.
  • I noticed on Saturday he calls for the ball but looks as though he really doesn't want it.
    He gets himself in positions where the defence have to bypass him to move the ball forward.
    Hiding we used to call it.
    No argument about his energy. He can press no doubt.
    But his offensive play is completely non existent.
    I get he's young and he may well turn out to be a future talent, but it's really not evident on much of the appearances I have seen? He is bereft of any real self confidence when in possession of the ball. That can be managed of course.
    I was hoping he would really push on this season and we'd see something similar to Aribo but that looks less and less likely as each game passes.
    Agree. I can't envisage him playing higher than mid Championship.

    Right now, we're a crap team in a crap league. Never better reflected by the players and management.

    Many of our fans have rose tinted glasses, especially when it comes to homegrown players.
  • Anyone remember Bielik in the first half of his loan season? He was forever giving the ball away. Look at him now (bigging it up for Birmingham). Anderson has bags of talent and will only get better and better. We really missed his presence in the second half on Saturday which enabled Wrexham to take over the midfield.
    Remember all those other midfielders we’ve had in recent times who didn’t go on to be as good as Bielik?
  • Anyone remember Bielik in the first half of his loan season? He was forever giving the ball away. Look at him now (bigging it up for Birmingham). Anderson has bags of talent and will only get better and better. We really missed his presence in the second half on Saturday which enabled Wrexham to take over the midfield.
    Bielik was double the player Anderson was, even in his raw early stages you can see he was a far superior football to Anderson, he has nearly played 50 senior games now, and has not kicked on much at all 
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  • To my mind KA is not a nailed on starter. I'd like to see 4 of Coventry, Doherty, Taylor, A Campbell or Berry in a midfield combo for some decent game minutes to see what they can become together. We haven't seen the best of Doherty for sure and I don't think Taylor and A Campbell have had enough match minutes to really get up to speed. Miles needs a few more miles under his belt too.
    We've got tonight and Saturday to try things out and give these guys some much needed game time....... and who cares if we don't progress in either competition. I'd rather get our L1 house in better order......
  • I think either or both of tonight and Saturdays games could be just what Anderson needs. Games against weaker opposition to hopefully give him a bit more confidence on the ball, that he can then take into league games 
  • NabySarr said:
    I think either or both of tonight and Saturdays games could be just what Anderson needs. Games against weaker opposition to hopefully give him a bit more confidence on the ball, that he can then take into league games 
    Suspended tonight I believe
  • Scoham said:
    PopIcon said:
    I noticed on Saturday he calls for the ball but looks as though he really doesn't want it.
    He gets himself in positions where the defence have to bypass him to move the ball forward.
    Hiding we used to call it.
    No argument about his energy. He can press no doubt.
    But his offensive play is completely non existent.
    I get he's young and he may well turn out to be a future talent, but it's really not evident on much of the appearances I have seen? He is bereft of any real self confidence when in possession of the ball. That can be managed of course.
    I was hoping he would really push on this season and we'd see something similar to Aribo but that looks less and less likely as each game passes.
    Agree. I can't envisage him playing higher than mid Championship.

    Right now, we're a crap team in a crap league. Never better reflected by the players and management.

    Many of our fans have rose tinted glasses, especially when it comes to homegrown players.
    Equally many write players off too early and underrate them because they haven’t at that point become consistent. Some would have released Grant, didn’t think Konsa was anything special etc. They don’t need to be Gomez or Lookman to have a positive impact, and some need more than a season or so to develop.
    It's nothing to do with writing players off. I don't have the stats, but 99% of kids who play for Charlton U12s don't play higher than L1 football.

    Secondly, it's about wanting players who are good enough to get Charlton out of this poxy league and Karoy Anderson isn't one of those players.
  • It curious that Coventry is excused passing backwards or sideways because he lacks options. Karoy playing further advanced, with fewer options is criticised for losing the ball when he always trying to move it forward
  • PopIcon said:
    Scoham said:
    PopIcon said:
    I noticed on Saturday he calls for the ball but looks as though he really doesn't want it.
    He gets himself in positions where the defence have to bypass him to move the ball forward.
    Hiding we used to call it.
    No argument about his energy. He can press no doubt.
    But his offensive play is completely non existent.
    I get he's young and he may well turn out to be a future talent, but it's really not evident on much of the appearances I have seen? He is bereft of any real self confidence when in possession of the ball. That can be managed of course.
    I was hoping he would really push on this season and we'd see something similar to Aribo but that looks less and less likely as each game passes.
    Agree. I can't envisage him playing higher than mid Championship.

    Right now, we're a crap team in a crap league. Never better reflected by the players and management.

    Many of our fans have rose tinted glasses, especially when it comes to homegrown players.
    Equally many write players off too early and underrate them because they haven’t at that point become consistent. Some would have released Grant, didn’t think Konsa was anything special etc. They don’t need to be Gomez or Lookman to have a positive impact, and some need more than a season or so to develop.
    It's nothing to do with writing players off. I don't have the stats, but 99% of kids who play for Charlton U12s don't play higher than L1 football.

    Secondly, it's about wanting players who are good enough to get Charlton out of this poxy league and Karoy Anderson isn't one of those players.
    I agree we need players who start regularly to be better than what we have, but he could be a squad player in a promotion winning squad. The problem is we have too many like that, and not enough who’d be starters.

    Like I said there was a point when some didn’t rate players like Grant and Konsa. Similar things would have been said about others such as Pope and Aribo. Fox wasn’t rated but spent a lot more time in the Championship than we as a club have. Some didn’t see how Lapslie could add something to the first team, but that squad went up.

    All I’m saying is the truth is somewhere between the rose tinted view that every youngster is a superstar, and those who’d give up on a player after their first year of senior football in which they weren’t the next Shelvey, Gomez or Lookman.
  • Karoy, along with TC and Kanu, were deemed not good enough before the Birmingham game but all three were a key part of our best result and perfornance this season.
  • Karoy, along with TC and Kanu, were deemed not good enough before the Birmingham game but all three were a key part of our best result and perfornance this season.
    A team that also had Allan Campbell and Greg Docherty. 
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  • I am confident Anderson is going to be a top player. He is a one touch passer and he will adapt and then that attribute becomes a premium one.
  • I’m not knocking the lad as he is very young and imo should not be starting games yet. He may go on to have a good career but at the moment his first touch isn’t good enough and he loses the ball too often as he doesn’t get given time to get control after a bad first touch. Effort and a great engine shouldn’t outweigh ability if the manager has options 
  • AndyG said:
    I’m not knocking the lad as he is very young and imo should not be starting games yet. He may go on to have a good career but at the moment his first touch isn’t good enough and he loses the ball too often as he doesn’t get given time to get control after a bad first touch. Effort and a great engine shouldn’t outweigh ability if the manager has options 

  • Karoy dropped, Charlton win. Coincidence? Yeah probably.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Karoy dropped, Charlton win. Coincidence? Yeah probably.
    Yeah because he was suspended ;)
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Karoy dropped, Charlton win. Coincidence? Yeah probably.
    Not dropped, suspended 

    We also won the last BSM trophy game he played.

    So no causation
  • Willo said:
    He is being selected because the club have identified him a an asset they think they can sell. Thats why starts most games.
    So you’re either saying Jones priority is to develop assets over winning games? Or someone above him picks the team?
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