The ideal set up would be playing wing backs but we still need to change personnel. I think Asiimwe needs games now as he is a proper wing back and will be a big asset next season IMO. Then I think we need another. Already the midfield with Dobbo, Coventry, Bakinson and L Watson to pick from looks better and it is clear May needs a bit of help and the biggest mistake Appleton made was putting the Campbells up with him. This season, we can't drop CBT as he is one of our best players and one of our few goal threats so I think we have to go unbalanced and have a wing back and a full back and we can tidy that up next season. Our front three for next Saturday should be CBT, May and Kanu.
Hopefully the front three debacle is over. Got to be a two in front of a five and three?
You would think so - especially if CBT is going (which was pretty much the only reason for playing the three, the Campbells were useless yesterday).
At the game yesterday. Thoughts. Bakinson and Connor promising. Fiorini, not sure, though he only had about 15 mind. Cambells x 2, both poor, not enough physicality. Jones last few games has been poor. If you watch Posh's winner, he was all over the place (as we're others) Dobbo and May were really good. This was a game where we needed CBT. Like others I would rather we don't let him go and if necessary lose the 250 k +. Finally Appleton. What a load of old guff he speaks. For Posh, Mason Clarke and Edwards definitely championship standard, not sure Prem standard
At the game yesterday. Thoughts. Bakinson and Connor promising. Fiorini, not sure, though he only had about 15 mind. Cambells x 2, both poor, not enough physicality. Jones last few games has been poor. If you watch Posh's winner, he was all over the place (as we're others) Dobbo and May were really good. This was a game where we needed CBT. Like others I would rather we don't let him go and if necessary lose the 250 k +. Finally Appleton. What a load of old guff he speaks. For Posh, Mason Clarke and Edwards definitely championship standard, not sure Prem standard
Bakinson looked like he should be made Captain, he was marshalling his teammates from the off, we’ve missed that. Connor looks like the missing piece. Fiorini looked class but a lack of movement around him when he had the ball restricted what he could do. A week on the training ground should start to sort that out if he is as good as that little cameo promises.
obviously too soon to judge based on just that one game as to whether those observations will come good as they get more game time but it’s a good start for all three.
Played the wrong line up. As a result played off the park first half. How could anyone think putting Alfie up front and isolated would work, we have done that before and it does not work, we see it, but the Head Coach does not.
I'm not one for sacking managers too quickly, but this bloke has very little on his CV, and shown nothing of his great coaching credentials we keep getting told about. His only get out seems to be spend money and it might work. Just get rid, ensure relegation don't happen (Pearce in.temp charge) and get someone who can do the job for next season.
For all those moaning about the fact that we only let in goals 80 minutes onwards, you’ll be pleased to know I just looked up the time of Peterborough’s 2nd goal, and it was in the 75th minute, little steps, but onwards and upwards!
There’s a bloke and his grown up son that sit nearby, they always leave on the 83rd minute, at least yesterday they got to see the losing goal.
At the game yesterday. Thoughts. Bakinson and Connor promising. Fiorini, not sure, though he only had about 15 mind. Cambells x 2, both poor, not enough physicality. Jones last few games has been poor. If you watch Posh's winner, he was all over the place (as we're others) Dobbo and May were really good. This was a game where we needed CBT. Like others I would rather we don't let him go and if necessary lose the 250 k +. Finally Appleton. What a load of old guff he speaks. For Posh, Mason Clarke and Edwards definitely championship standard, not sure Prem standard
Bakinson looked like he should be made Captain, he was marshalling his teammates from the off, we’ve missed that. Connor looks like the missing piece. Fiorini looked class but a lack of movement around him when he had the ball restricted what he could do. A week on the training ground should start to sort that out if he is as good as that little cameo promises.
obviously too soon to judge based on just that one game as to whether those observations will come good as they get more game time but it’s a good start for all three.
Has a loan signing ever been made captain - at Charlton or anywhere else?
Says to give him time because he's a good manager, but then describes in detail how easily they outplayed us. The old manager's union looking out for their own.
Says to give him time because he's a good manager, but then describes in detail how easily they outplayed us. The old manager's union looking out for their own.
and six points for Posh next season if we are both in the same League
MA has no right to trial players in positions and/or formations on match days. That’s what weekly training sessions are for. He’s been here long enough and knows the players skills and attributes so why the hell is trying ‘this and that’ on crucial games. Is he not embarrassed that we’re into a dozen games without a win now.
You couldn't be more wrong.
He absolutely has the right to as head coach to trial new formations and he'd be criticised if he didn't try a new approach after the run we've been on.
Don't you think they practiced this in the week in training. He didn't just dream it up on Friday night.
I'd also say it was the right time to test it. It's those below us that we need to beat now as play offs have long gone. Burton is much more crucial.
I don’t know what goes on in training and you don’t either but all I know is a lot of players performances have been going backwards. He’s not getting the best out of this bunch and everyone can see that clearly. If you think he has the right to trial players in formations during match days, then we’ll have to be ready for a relegation scrap. You might think it’s the right thing to do but there is no way I want to see a first half performance like that again, it was a total mess. Perhaps we can agree on one thing and that is this manager is completely clueless.
P'boro's game management was good. Their players kept going down 'injured' to try and kill our monentum second half, One claimed to have cramp on 57 mins! This is not something we do.
Although, there was one moment in the dying members where their player decided to shoot from range instead of taking it to the corner. Ferguson was apoplectic. I tried to picture Apples in the same circumstance, still standing there motionless, hands in pockets.
Re: managing the game, at one point in the first half when we were being pressed and dominated, AMB caught the ball and looked to distribute it quickly. And I saw Bakinson tell him no, calm it down. He ignored him and threw it out quickly and 5 seconds later we'd lost the ball again.
Yeah it's partly experience but surely the coaching has a massive role to play here.
P'boro's game management was good. Their players kept going down 'injured' to try and kill our monentum second half, One claimed to have cramp on 57 mins! This is not something we do.
P'boro's game management was good. Their players kept going down 'injured' to try and kill our monentum second half, One claimed to have cramp on 57 mins! This is not something we do.
Although, there was one moment in the dying members where their player decided to shoot from range instead of taking it to the corner. Ferguson was apoplectic. I tried to picture Apples in the same circumstance, still standing there motionless, hands in pockets.
Re: managing the game, at one point in the first half when we were being pressed and dominated, AMB caught the ball and looked to distribute it quickly. And I saw Bakinson tell him no, calm it down. He ignored him and threw it out quickly and 5 seconds later we'd lost the ball again.
Yeah it's partly experience but surely the coaching has a massive role to play here.
Bankinson should basically be player/captain/manager.
P'boro's game management was good. Their players kept going down 'injured' to try and kill our monentum second half, One claimed to have cramp on 57 mins! This is not something we do.
Although, there was one moment in the dying members where their player decided to shoot from range instead of taking it to the corner. Ferguson was apoplectic. I tried to picture Apples in the same circumstance, still standing there motionless, hands in pockets.
Re: managing the game, at one point in the first half when we were being pressed and dominated, AMB caught the ball and looked to distribute it quickly. And I saw Bakinson tell him no, calm it down. He ignored him and threw it out quickly and 5 seconds later we'd lost the ball again.
Yeah it's partly experience but surely the coaching has a massive role to play here.
Think AMB isn’t too confident on when to play quick and when to slow the game down. Countless times yesterday when we had players busting a gut forward and he just held on to the ball for ages. At other it was obvious we were under pressure and he’d immediately roll it out to someone being pressed. Feels like an easily fixable thing though
Why is it we end up with Alfie May running round like a blue arsed fly trying to close down their back 3 and our back four where closed down every time they received a pass that includes the keeper as well. My West Ham mate thought the players lazy or thinking they are better than they are and dwell to long on the ball but cannot be bothered to close down the opposition players.
It’s always very easy to be wise after the event, but anyone who has seen us over the last two months and knows the most minuscule about football would know starting Alfie May up front alone, with floaty Campbells nowhere near him would be an absolute disaster. We’ve seen it just doesn’t work in multiple games.
We have a poor defence that ships goals every game. With no outlet ball available to a physical presence they never get the ball up the pitch long enough to regroup and reshape. With no physical presence, nothing ever falls in the pocket for Alfie May to engage with. With no outlet we then have to persist with this stupid approach of playing to feet from AMB to defenders, which allow the opposition to push men on and press high. We then have defenders uncomfortable with the ball at feet being pressed. This creates mistakes, this stops the ball getting out the final third, this creates tension, this gives the opposition confidence, the ability to smother us and allows their defence a break.
It’s so bleeding obvious. How can a so called manager not see that? Kanu is by no means fully ready for L1 but we saw within 30 seconds what difference it makes to THE OPPOSITION having two strikers pressing them into being loose, making mistakes, shifting the momentum play further up the pitch.
I’m sure he’ll be around for a while and I’ve no doubt it will improve, but Appleton is by far the worst manager so far I can remember us having for a long time.
At the game yesterday. Thoughts. Bakinson and Connor promising. Fiorini, not sure, though he only had about 15 mind. Cambells x 2, both poor, not enough physicality. Jones last few games has been poor. If you watch Posh's winner, he was all over the place (as we're others) Dobbo and May were really good. This was a game where we needed CBT. Like others I would rather we don't let him go and if necessary lose the 250 k +. Finally Appleton. What a load of old guff he speaks. For Posh, Mason Clarke and Edwards definitely championship standard, not sure Prem standard
Bakinson looked like he should be made Captain, he was marshalling his teammates from the off, we’ve missed that. Connor looks like the missing piece. Fiorini looked class but a lack of movement around him when he had the ball restricted what he could do. A week on the training ground should start to sort that out if he is as good as that little cameo promises.
obviously too soon to judge based on just that one game as to whether those observations will come good as they get more game time but it’s a good start for all three.
Has a loan signing ever been made captain - at Charlton or anywhere else?
Would be happy if we signed him up, looked just what we’ve been missing.
P'boro's game management was good. Their players kept going down 'injured' to try and kill our monentum second half, One claimed to have cramp on 57 mins! This is not something we do.
Although, there was one moment in the dying members where their player decided to shoot from range instead of taking it to the corner. Ferguson was apoplectic. I tried to picture Apples in the same circumstance, still standing there motionless, hands in pockets.
Re: managing the game, at one point in the first half when we were being pressed and dominated, AMB caught the ball and looked to distribute it quickly. And I saw Bakinson tell him no, calm it down. He ignored him and threw it out quickly and 5 seconds later we'd lost the ball again.
Yeah it's partly experience but surely the coaching has a massive role to play here.
Good post. I think Bakinson might just what we need right now.
At the game yesterday. Thoughts. Bakinson and Connor promising. Fiorini, not sure, though he only had about 15 mind. Cambells x 2, both poor, not enough physicality. Jones last few games has been poor. If you watch Posh's winner, he was all over the place (as we're others) Dobbo and May were really good. This was a game where we needed CBT. Like others I would rather we don't let him go and if necessary lose the 250 k +. Finally Appleton. What a load of old guff he speaks. For Posh, Mason Clarke and Edwards definitely championship standard, not sure Prem standard
Bakinson looked like he should be made Captain, he was marshalling his teammates from the off, we’ve missed that. Connor looks like the missing piece. Fiorini looked class but a lack of movement around him when he had the ball restricted what he could do. A week on the training ground should start to sort that out if he is as good as that little cameo promises.
obviously too soon to judge based on just that one game as to whether those observations will come good as they get more game time but it’s a good start for all three.
Has a loan signing ever been made captain - at Charlton or anywhere else?
Good point, though he was running the show for a while from the off and we were pretty tight considering the onslaught they were having to endure because Tyreece was struggling and Alfie was having to do it all himself upfront. Some players/people are natural leaders, he was showing signs of that yesterday. We definitely need somebody to do it and it’s not Dobbo who has to do all the running around trying to fill gaps
At the game yesterday. Thoughts. Bakinson and Connor promising. Fiorini, not sure, though he only had about 15 mind. Cambells x 2, both poor, not enough physicality. Jones last few games has been poor. If you watch Posh's winner, he was all over the place (as we're others) Dobbo and May were really good. This was a game where we needed CBT. Like others I would rather we don't let him go and if necessary lose the 250 k +. Finally Appleton. What a load of old guff he speaks. For Posh, Mason Clarke and Edwards definitely championship standard, not sure Prem standard
Bakinson looked like he should be made Captain, he was marshalling his teammates from the off, we’ve missed that. Connor looks like the missing piece. Fiorini looked class but a lack of movement around him when he had the ball restricted what he could do. A week on the training ground should start to sort that out if he is as good as that little cameo promises.
obviously too soon to judge based on just that one game as to whether those observations will come good as they get more game time but it’s a good start for all three.
Has a loan signing ever been made captain - at Charlton or anywhere else?
Would be happy if we signed him up, looked just what we’ve been missing.
If there is money for players floating about and we already rated him enough to take him on loan then exploring whether he could be bought might be worth considering.
At the game yesterday. Thoughts. Bakinson and Connor promising. Fiorini, not sure, though he only had about 15 mind. Cambells x 2, both poor, not enough physicality. Jones last few games has been poor. If you watch Posh's winner, he was all over the place (as we're others) Dobbo and May were really good. This was a game where we needed CBT. Like others I would rather we don't let him go and if necessary lose the 250 k +. Finally Appleton. What a load of old guff he speaks. For Posh, Mason Clarke and Edwards definitely championship standard, not sure Prem standard
Bakinson looked like he should be made Captain, he was marshalling his teammates from the off, we’ve missed that. Connor looks like the missing piece. Fiorini looked class but a lack of movement around him when he had the ball restricted what he could do. A week on the training ground should start to sort that out if he is as good as that little cameo promises.
obviously too soon to judge based on just that one game as to whether those observations will come good as they get more game time but it’s a good start for all three.
Has a loan signing ever been made captain - at Charlton or anywhere else?
Would be happy if we signed him up, looked just what we’ve been missing.
If there is money for players floating about and we already rated him enough to take him on loan then exploring whether he could be bought might be worth considering.
We lost that because of Appleton's first half formation, 4 at the back, 3 in midfield gradually being swamped, Alfie May up front and the 2 Campbells wandering around without a clue presumably hiding from the Macdonalds. Hopefully Appleton has learnt a lesson - or more likely Craig Fleming may have given him one about the need to be flexible.
At the game yesterday. Thoughts. Bakinson and Connor promising. Fiorini, not sure, though he only had about 15 mind. Cambells x 2, both poor, not enough physicality. Jones last few games has been poor. If you watch Posh's winner, he was all over the place (as we're others) Dobbo and May were really good. This was a game where we needed CBT. Like others I would rather we don't let him go and if necessary lose the 250 k +. Finally Appleton. What a load of old guff he speaks. For Posh, Mason Clarke and Edwards definitely championship standard, not sure Prem standard
Bakinson looked like he should be made Captain, he was marshalling his teammates from the off, we’ve missed that. Connor looks like the missing piece. Fiorini looked class but a lack of movement around him when he had the ball restricted what he could do. A week on the training ground should start to sort that out if he is as good as that little cameo promises.
obviously too soon to judge based on just that one game as to whether those observations will come good as they get more game time but it’s a good start for all three.
Has a loan signing ever been made captain - at Charlton or anywhere else?
Does actually demonstrate that apart from leading by example Dobson does little else as captain. Perhaps Bakinson should have a word
Apples: what the actual Eff was that initial lineup? he clearly hadn't bothered to tell the players (if he even knew) so they stood about looking bewildered. Inside of 10 minutes it was obvious to all that we were hopelessly adrift and the only limit to Posh's scoring was their own ambition (bizarrely lacking). Of course the ugly northern fraud stuck with the miserable shambles for 45 minutes stood inert in the technical area clearly giving not one iota of a damn. The biggest surprise was his production of a plan B (first time ever) and the withdrawal of the 2 Campbells - Chem pissed about hiding and Tyreece was constantly double-teamed and bullied into submission by Posh. AMB: Better from him than a lot of what we've seen but is he dim? He doesn't seem to understand urgency even in the dying minutes with the team behind JONES: Slow as ever and his distribution remains woeful NESS: As bad as anybody first half and dealt a stinker by the prick manager who threw him back in after ages out into an entirely new formation but 2nd half when Posh starting kicking it a lot longer he acquitted himself bravely under the aerial bombardment THOMAS: Gets back in the team just as we sign his obvious replacement, one of the least bad on show 1st half T.WATSON: He's not really much of a full back but he did alright yesterday DOBSON: Doing the work of 3 as usual, which is probably the major reason he's not taken the club's offer, yet, that and the fact this "offer" is barely an improvement on his current deal when he consistently shows he's worth a minimum of 2.5 times most of his colleagues BAKINSON: Drifted about to no discernible effect first half, much more involved 2nd half, missed a sitter from 3 yards which then fell to Alfie for the goal EDUN: Lack of pace is an issue in his primary role as a fullback but he got stuck in covering nearly as much ground as Alfie, we've got much worse than him T.CAMPBELL: double teamed and bullied out of the first half MAY: tireless determination as ever, given the dismal recruitment up to last week I'm still pinching myself that the lunatics running the CAFC asylum actually signed him C.CAMPBELL: has taken on board Apples affection for the Scott Fraser approach to pisstaking in plain sight and gave it a go for 45 minutes - he must have been as stunned as I was that Apples gave him the hook KANU: Gave the Posh backline plenty to do but they usually proved too strong for him, he might benefit from a run in the team L.WATSON: A nice surprise to see him play a massive improvement on CC but frankly almost anybody would have been C.COVENTRY Looked a big step up on most of his new colleagues, very promising
It’s always very easy to be wise after the event, but anyone who has seen us over the last two months and knows the most minuscule about football would know starting Alfie May up front alone, with floaty Campbells nowhere near him would be an absolute disaster. We’ve seen it just doesn’t work in multiple games.
We have a poor defence that ships goals every game. With no outlet ball available to a physical presence they never get the ball up the pitch long enough to regroup and reshape. With no physical presence, nothing ever falls in the pocket for Alfie May to engage with. With no outlet we then have to persist with this stupid approach of playing to feet from AMB to defenders, which allow the opposition to push men on and press high. We then have defenders uncomfortable with the ball at feet being pressed. This creates mistakes, this stops the ball getting out the final third, this creates tension, this gives the opposition confidence, the ability to smother us and allows their defence a break.
It’s so bleeding obvious. How can a so called manager not see that? Kanu is by no means fully ready for L1 but we saw within 30 seconds what difference it makes to THE OPPOSITION having two strikers pressing them into being loose, making mistakes, shifting the momentum play further up the pitch.
I’m sure he’ll be around for a while and I’ve no doubt it will improve, but Appleton is by far the worst manager so far I can remember us having for a long time.
Give that man a promote!
Ha, I saw this post had forty odd likes and oddly, one lol. Turned out it was me! Fat fingers. 😂
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obviously too soon to judge based on just that one game as to whether those observations will come good as they get more game time but it’s a good start for all three.
I'm not one for sacking managers too quickly, but this bloke has very little on his CV, and shown nothing of his great coaching credentials we keep getting told about. His only get out seems to be spend money and it might work. Just get rid, ensure relegation don't happen (Pearce in.temp charge) and get someone who can do the job for next season.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/peterborough-united-boss-darren-ferguson-give-michael-appleton-time-at-charlton-athletic/
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/id-like-one-more-michael-appleton-on-if-charlton-can-dip-into-transfer-market-following-michael-hector-injury/
Although, there was one moment in the dying members where their player decided to shoot from range instead of taking it to the corner. Ferguson was apoplectic. I tried to picture Apples in the same circumstance, still standing there motionless, hands in pockets.
Re: managing the game, at one point in the first half when we were being pressed and dominated, AMB caught the ball and looked to distribute it quickly. And I saw Bakinson tell him no, calm it down. He ignored him and threw it out quickly and 5 seconds later we'd lost the ball again.
Yeah it's partly experience but surely the coaching has a massive role to play here.
absolutely spot on
AMB: Better from him than a lot of what we've seen but is he dim? He doesn't seem to understand urgency even in the dying minutes with the team behind
JONES: Slow as ever and his distribution remains woeful
NESS: As bad as anybody first half and dealt a stinker by the prick manager who threw him back in after ages out into an entirely new formation but 2nd half when Posh starting kicking it a lot longer he acquitted himself bravely under the aerial bombardment
THOMAS: Gets back in the team just as we sign his obvious replacement, one of the least bad on show 1st half
T.WATSON: He's not really much of a full back but he did alright yesterday
DOBSON: Doing the work of 3 as usual, which is probably the major reason he's not taken the club's offer, yet, that and the fact this "offer" is barely an improvement on his current deal when he consistently shows he's worth a minimum of 2.5 times most of his colleagues
BAKINSON: Drifted about to no discernible effect first half, much more involved 2nd half, missed a sitter from 3 yards which then fell to Alfie for the goal
EDUN: Lack of pace is an issue in his primary role as a fullback but he got stuck in covering nearly as much ground as Alfie, we've got much worse than him
T.CAMPBELL: double teamed and bullied out of the first half
MAY: tireless determination as ever, given the dismal recruitment up to last week I'm still pinching myself that the lunatics running the CAFC asylum actually signed him
C.CAMPBELL: has taken on board Apples affection for the Scott Fraser approach to pisstaking in plain sight and gave it a go for 45 minutes - he must have been as stunned as I was that Apples gave him the hook
KANU: Gave the Posh backline plenty to do but they usually proved too strong for him, he might benefit from a run in the team
L.WATSON: A nice surprise to see him play a massive improvement on CC but frankly almost anybody would have been
C.COVENTRY Looked a big step up on most of his new colleagues, very promising
Fat fingers. 😂