Southgate now has 6 days to work on things for the next game, which is quite a big gap in tournament football. Is anyone confident he will actually change anything (aside from the enforced change as Guehi is suspended)?
He”ll change nothing. We’ll beat Switzerland. We are going out in the semis. Southgate will be held up as a successful coach. Next coach will come in, rinse and repeat.
Thank God they added (Sung to the tune of ‘Hey Jude’) to the song that has ‘Hey Jude’ as its first line. I was about to start singing it to fucking Wonderwall
When Southgate and the players are interviewed after games they keep talking about the performance like it was a different game. Bellingham tonight said “it was a good performance up until the goal and even after”. WTF?
NO IT FUCKING WASN’T.
From where I sat, the majority of the game went: 1) pass the ball around the back four for five minutes 2) give ball away cheaply. 3) Have a narrow escape 4) Repeat until 5) Let in goal 6) Return to step 1)
An embarrassing performance. Totally undeserved win. Appalling.
Come on lads and lasses, it definitely picked up in the second half. Disallowed goal, Kane’s missed header, Rice hit the post - I always felt we’d score even though we left it late.
Mind you, we’ll lose to Switzerland if Southgate doesn’t shake thing up quite a lot.
I hope the England players and management watched the Spain game against Georgia, to see what a good performance looks like. Apart from the quality on show, there was no thought when Spain like England came back from being 1-0 down to lead 2-1, to just sit on their lead, and see the game out. Instead they kept controlling the ball and attacking, and got more goals to kill the game off.
Come on lads and lasses, it definitely picked up in the second half. Disallowed goal, Kane’s missed header, Rice hit the post - I always felt we’d score even though we left it late.
Mind you, we’ll lose to Switzerland if Southgate doesn’t shake thing up quite a lot.
I think the Switzerland game will go to penalties.
Come on lads and lasses, it definitely picked up in the second half. Disallowed goal, Kane’s missed header, Rice hit the post - I always felt we’d score even though we left it late.
Mind you, we’ll lose to Switzerland if Southgate doesn’t shake thing up quite a lot.
You say disallowed goal like there was some doubt. Miles offside.
Come on lads and lasses, it definitely picked up in the second half. Disallowed goal, Kane’s missed header, Rice hit the post - I always felt we’d score even though we left it late.
Mind you, we’ll lose to Switzerland if Southgate doesn’t shake thing up quite a lot.
It did. It from absolutely atrocious to "only" being very bad. Slovakia seemed to be thrown off by the disallowed goal and dropped off a bit - we got a bit lucky frankly.
Come on lads and lasses, it definitely picked up in the second half. Disallowed goal, Kane’s missed header, Rice hit the post - I always felt we’d score even though we left it late.
Mind you, we’ll lose to Switzerland if Southgate doesn’t shake thing up quite a lot.
Yep, we had one more shot on target in the second half than we did in the first. It came in the 95th minute.
94 minutes of that match was like watching Charlton on a bad day. Then Bellingham turned up and in extra time Kane remembered that he's a centre forward.
Got the result we needed but Switzerland won't be a pushover. Just hope we can do it.
I hope the England players and management watched the Spain game against Georgia, to see what a good performance looks like. Apart from the quality on show, there was no thought when Spain like England came back from being 1-0 down to lead 2-1, to just sit on their lead, and see the game out. Instead they kept controlling the ball and attacking, and got more goals to kill the game off.
Southgate 100% will not do that. His wife must be so pleased he’s away for another week, the geezer must be most the most boring bloke on the planet.
We have really struggled to beat 2 countries with populations of 6 million. Next we are playing a country with a population of 8 million and have to beat them. Is there anything that suggests we can improve enough to contest a big country if we ever get to play them, Germany, Spain or France? Because I have seen nothing to suggest we will.
Last two winners of this tournament had 3 out of 4 knockout games end in a draw after 90 minutes, including at least one game they were heavy favourites in.
2016 Portugal: Croatia (a.e.t.) -> Poland (p) -> Wales -> France (a.e.t.)
2020 Italy: Austria (a.e.t.) -> Belgium -> Spain (p) -> England (p)
I thought the big difference was having Toney on. He stays up front and occupies defenders and wins duels so Kane can get more involved like he did for the winner
For the large part we controlled the game but had no cutting edge thankfully we have a player like Bellingham who can and does pull out moments of magic to win games
Come on lads and lasses, it definitely picked up in the second half. Disallowed goal, Kane’s missed header, Rice hit the post - I always felt we’d score even though we left it late.
Mind you, we’ll lose to Switzerland if Southgate doesn’t shake thing up quite a lot.
I think the Switzerland game will go to penalties.
Last two winners of this tournament had 3 out of 4 knockout games end in a draw after 90 minutes, including at least one game they were heavy favourites in.
2016 Portugal: Croatia (a.e.t.) -> Poland (p) -> Wales -> France (a.e.t.)
2020 Italy: Austria (a.e.t.) -> Belgium -> Spain (p) -> England (p)
Yeh, but they didn’t have to face the mighty Switzerland.
On second thought, Switzerland. “Four thousand years of peace and what do you get? The cuckoo clock”.
England at major tournaments the last forty years (grouped by individual managers):
84 DNQ 86 8th 88 7th 90 4th (average - 6th, plus one DNQ)
92 7th 94 DNQ
96 3rd
98 9th
00 11th
02 6th 04 5th 06 7th (average - 6th)
08 DNQ
10 13th
12 5th 14 26th 16 12th (average - 14th)
18 4th 20 2nd 22 6th 24 8th or better (average - at worst, 5th)
GS now inarguably the manager with the best tournament results for England in the last 40 years.
I know you love a stat Callum, but how on God’s green earth do you finish 13th at a Euros/World Cup.
And he’s had arguably the best squad of any England Manager for 20 years and maybe longer.
Well to be completely honest, read it online.
I assume it’s calculated by taking all the teams who got knocked out in that particular round and compare their points total, goal difference etc. to give them a final ranking - similar to how they determine the best third placed teams e.g. Hungary 17th & Croatia 18th in this year’s competition.
Well that was fortunate wasn't it? I think the biggest factor was Slovakia went deeper and deeper in the second half. We did play better in that half but that was a big factor. I also think that we have to play Saka as a wing back. Trippier doesn't work there and the only other option is Gomez. But Saka is a top player who knows the position. Southgate is very stubborn to the point of utter stupidity but he also seems to be very lucky too.
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We are going out in the semis. Southgate will be held up as a successful coach.
Next coach will come in, rinse and repeat.
WTF?
1) pass the ball around the back four for five minutes
2) give ball away cheaply.
3) Have a narrow escape
4) Repeat until
5) Let in goal
6) Return to step 1)
Just win games
did the recent AFCON winners sack their manager during the tournament ?
We’ve got a bye to the final , he fucked up the 2018 World Cup bye let’s not fuck this one up
it's coming home , I don’t know what it’s is though
Got the result we needed but Switzerland won't be a pushover. Just hope we can do it.
2016 Portugal: Croatia (a.e.t.) -> Poland (p) -> Wales -> France (a.e.t.)
2020 Italy: Austria (a.e.t.) -> Belgium -> Spain (p) -> England (p)
For the large part we controlled the game but had no cutting edge thankfully we have a player like Bellingham who can and does pull out moments of magic to win games
84 DNQ
86 8th
88 7th
90 4th
(average - 6th, plus one DNQ)
92 7th
94 DNQ
96 3rd
98 9th
00 11th
02 6th
04 5th
06 7th
(average - 6th)
08 DNQ
10 13th
12 5th
14 26th
16 12th
(average - 14th)
18 4th
20 2nd
22 6th
24 8th or better
(average - at worst, 5th)
GS now inarguably the manager with the best tournament results for England in the last 40 years.
On second thought, Switzerland. “Four thousand years of peace and what do you get? The cuckoo clock”.