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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,891
    Whoopsie daiseee Man City
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,111
    Not the best opening 3 minutes for Man City’s young new signing. 

    Gives the ball to Jackson for the opener, then gives the ball away again and has to hack down Palmer for a yellow card. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,239
    edited January 25
    Khusanuov* has had the worse 1st 5 minutes debut I've have seen from an outfield players for years in the Premier. First 3 touches were awful. 
    The header back was a shocker and how Chelsea didn't go 2 up later is a mystery when Palmer had just the keeper to beat.

    * The 1st Uzbekistan player in the Premier on a 4 1/2 year deal and 40 million.  Thrown in the deep end because of injuries to the many defenders of City.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,239
    Gvardiol makes it 1-1 for Man city and that is the attack minded left footed CB 9th goal in his 50th appearance.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,652
    Great finish from Haaland but appalling keeping from Sanchez, all that money and Chelsea haven’t bought a good keeper 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,239
    edited January 25
    fenaddick said:
    Great finish from Haaland but appalling keeping from Sanchez, all that money and Chelsea haven’t bought a good keeper 

    I wish CL posters watched some of the mistakes by Premier keepers; that was shocking from Sanchez who was caught in no man's land when he rushed out.
    Charlton keepers get pelters if they mess up a kick.

    Chelsea have shown no nous today. The young Uzbek defender was booked after 3 mins and they never tried to go one on one again. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,827
    Just seen the sending off, do me a fucking favour 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,010
    SELR_addicks said:
    A trip is now a straight red, beware. 
    Putting all your normal whinges/blinkers about Arsenal and referees - you've got a point on this one.

    Was a yellow, but not a red in a million years.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,652
    There’s an angle of the red where it looks like he’s gone studs up above the ankle, can only assume that’s what the ref/var have seen 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,827
    fenaddick said:
    There’s an angle of the red where it looks like he’s gone studs up above the ankle, can only assume that’s what the ref/var have seen 
    Even then it’s a stretch and a ton of gaslighting from PGMOL to believe it’s a red 

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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,506
    edited January 25
    fenaddick said:
    There’s an angle of the red where it looks like he’s gone studs up above the ankle, can only assume that’s what the ref/var have seen 
    Look at the second yellow given to the Wolves player and decide which one looks more like a straight red. 

    (The answer is still neither). 
  • Comeonyoureds
    Comeonyoureds Posts: 175
    soapboxsam said:
    fenaddick said:
    Great finish from Haaland but appalling keeping from Sanchez, all that money and Chelsea haven’t bought a good keeper 

    I wish CL posters watched some of the mistakes by Premier keepers; that was shocking from Sanchez who was caught in no man's land when he rushed out.
    Charlton keepers get pelters if they mess up a kick.

    Chelsea have shown no nous today. The young Uzbek defender was booked after 3 mins and they never tried to go one on one again. 
    Sanchez was at fault for the Wolves goal on Monday as well, he seems a real liability. Kepa seems a better keeper than him, he'll surely get benched in the next game or so.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,652
    SELR_addicks said:
    fenaddick said:
    There’s an angle of the red where it looks like he’s gone studs up above the ankle, can only assume that’s what the ref/var have seen 
    Look at the second yellow given to the Wolves player and decide which one looks more like a straight red. 

    (The answer is still neither). 
    I’ve only seen the Arsenal one which I think is very harsh, just putting out a possible explanation 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,506
    edited January 25
    fenaddick said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    fenaddick said:
    There’s an angle of the red where it looks like he’s gone studs up above the ankle, can only assume that’s what the ref/var have seen 
    Look at the second yellow given to the Wolves player and decide which one looks more like a straight red. 

    (The answer is still neither). 
    I’ve only seen the Arsenal one which I think is very harsh, just putting out a possible explanation 
    https://streamff.com/v/8a94f9f0

    It's basically exactly what you said, just more clear. Only a booking though that one. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,652
    SELR_addicks said:
    fenaddick said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    fenaddick said:
    There’s an angle of the red where it looks like he’s gone studs up above the ankle, can only assume that’s what the ref/var have seen 
    Look at the second yellow given to the Wolves player and decide which one looks more like a straight red. 

    (The answer is still neither). 
    I’ve only seen the Arsenal one which I think is very harsh, just putting out a possible explanation 
    https://streamff.com/v/8a94f9f0

    It's basically exactly what you said, just more clear. Only a booking though that one. 
    Think that should be a red but not sure they’re comparable as MLS wasn’t really going for the ball. I think the opposite outcomes would’ve been correct though 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,014
    killerandflash said:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ckg7rkrdxypo

    Article on Matz Sels. I'd forgotten that he arrived a year ago for just £5m, which is an incredible bargain, as he's been right up there with the best keepers in the league.
    That cursed him 🤣. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,014
    Ludicrous red card for Arsenal. The VAR officials who didn't change the decision should be immediately suspended.
  • Bournemouth Addick
    Bournemouth Addick Posts: 16,288
    soapboxsam said:
    Khusanuov* has had the worse 1st 5 minutes debut I've have seen from an outfield players for years in the Premier. First 3 touches were awful. 
    The header back was a shocker and how Chelsea didn't go 2 up later is a mystery when Palmer had just the keeper to beat.

    * The 1st Uzbekistan player in the Premier on a 4 1/2 year deal and 40 million.  Thrown in the deep end because of injuries to the many defenders of City.
    He really only needed a second yellow or score an OG to make it the perfect worst debut. All very Stewart Balmeresque.

    He's been touted around Europe as the best thing since sliced bread for ages, so it'll be interesting to see how he copes now with the added pressure of a nightmare start to his City career. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,117
    killerandflash said:
    Ludicrous red card for Arsenal. The VAR officials who didn't change the decision should be immediately suspended.
    Agreed, it's one of the worst decisions i've ever seen, absolute bog standard trip miles from goal. Yes it's cynical with no attempt to play the ball, but we see that fairly often and it is always just a yellow.

    Even if the ref thought it was a red, what's even worse is VAR not saying to him 'come on mate, it's a trip and he's nowhere near the goal, you should probably reconsider it'.

    We've seen far worse challenges go unpunished or only get a yellow.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,117
    soapboxsam said:
    Khusanuov* has had the worse 1st 5 minutes debut I've have seen from an outfield players for years in the Premier. First 3 touches were awful. 
    The header back was a shocker and how Chelsea didn't go 2 up later is a mystery when Palmer had just the keeper to beat.

    * The 1st Uzbekistan player in the Premier on a 4 1/2 year deal and 40 million.  Thrown in the deep end because of injuries to the many defenders of City.
    He had a horror start but i think once he settled down he actually looked ok, and you could see the potential.

    You've got to factor in that he's just a kid, he only signed a few days ago, he doesn't speak a word of English, Pep said he hadn't even had a training session and then he's been thrown straight into a top 4 battle because of their injuries.

    He'll learn from it and it'll do him good in the long run.

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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,117
    Bournemouth (relative to the size of the club) must've had one of the best weeks in PL history.

    Win 4-1 away to a Newcastle side who had won 9 in a row in all comps.
    Win 5-0 at home to a Forest side who are 3rd and being praised by everyone for their superb defensive record.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,115
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Bournemouth (relative to the size of the club) must've had one of the best weeks in PL history.

    Win 4-1 away to a Newcastle side who had won 9 in a row in all comps.
    Win 5-0 at home to a Forest side who are 3rd and being praised by everyone for their superb defensive record.

    Very impressive for a side that's currently without a central striker and playing a winger in Outarra up top. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,014
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    killerandflash said:
    Ludicrous red card for Arsenal. The VAR officials who didn't change the decision should be immediately suspended.
    Agreed, it's one of the worst decisions i've ever seen, absolute bog standard trip miles from goal. Yes it's cynical with no attempt to play the ball, but we see that fairly often and it is always just a yellow.

    Even if the ref thought it was a red, what's even worse is VAR not saying to him 'come on mate, it's a trip and he's nowhere near the goal, you should probably reconsider it'.

    We've seen far worse challenges go unpunished or only get a yellow.
    Or asking him to look at it on a screen.
  • cafc_se7
    cafc_se7 Posts: 2,284
    SELR_addicks said:
    A trip is now a straight red, beware. 
    I’m not even being soft, I can’t believe the amount of people saying this wasn’t a red. For me he has gone in studs first and high and late. It could have easily done serious damage to the Wolves player. 

    Think back to the Edward’s Clare challenge! 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,891
    edited January 26
    Surprised that the referee has given a straight red card, as cant see how he's seen that properly to begin with

    However the Arsenal player has raked his studs down the leg of the Wolves lad that would have been a bloody painful one!!, and any challenge where Footballer goes into with his studs up, is asking for trouble... It wouldnt ever be given that way, but could also argue its the sort of challenge which would be worthy of two yellow cards if they happened separately - One for stopping the Wolves breakaway, the other for being a dirty little shit.

    Ultimately the actually decision looks like the sort of Red that VAR would give rather than the Referee in the "modern game" though, but for me its the correct decision, regardless how we think the referee came to it
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,117
    cafc_se7 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    A trip is now a straight red, beware. 
    I’m not even being soft, I can’t believe the amount of people saying this wasn’t a red. For me he has gone in studs first and high and late. It could have easily done serious damage to the Wolves player. 

    Think back to the Edward’s Clare challenge! 
    Late yes, cynical yes, no attempt to play the ball yes, but it's nowhere near being 'high'. For me it's a standard trip. 


  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,891
    edited January 26
    I mean the contact starts here... Thats not a trip!! - He's raked his studs down the leg before tripping him


  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,506
    edited January 26
     :D 

    Enjoy your 10 red cards a game then. 

    Wolves player in the same game with the same referee did exactly the same tackle and got a booking. Consistency. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,891
    SELR_addicks said:
     :D 

    Enjoy your 10 red cards a game then. 

    Wolves player in the same game with the same referee did exactly the same tackle and got a booking. Consistency. 
    You'll never get consistency in Football... Can guarantee that now... Regardless where the Official comes from

    But if a Football goes in with a studs up challenge nine times out of ten, they're asking for trouble - Given the amount of times Wolves have been screwed over, it sounds about right they got away with something.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,891
    Trying to reason with an Arsenal fan, is seriously like trying to get Arteta to stick to his Technical Area

    Aint gonna happen!!

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