I understand the reasons why, but I really don’t like how teams like Man City sub their big stars off, stop really trying and become tedious once they’ve secured a thrashing like this. They spent the last twenty five minutes passing it around the back four. What was a hugely entertaining first hour or so turned into a dull as fuck last quarter. Shame. Nothing against Ipswich, but I want to see teams show what they're capable of in these situations.
I think United as a club are too broken for anyone to succeed. Amorim was one of the names linked to every big vacancy and I'm sure he'll be successful somewhere else but there's so much wrong at United on and off the field that I can't see him ever sorting this out.
Someone, sometime will get it right. They are just too big for it not to happen.
Who knows, Amorim may be the man. But he's got a load of dross to get rid of first before he can start moulding the club the way he wants to.
In the meantime, sit back and enjoy United's misery. And all the United fans in Surrey phoning in moaning about how awful things are.
I think United as a club are too broken for anyone to succeed. Amorim was one of the names linked to every big vacancy and I'm sure he'll be successful somewhere else but there's so much wrong at United on and off the field that I can't see him ever sorting this out.
Someone, sometime will get it right. They are just too big for it not to happen.
Who knows, Amorim may be the man. But he's got a load of dross to get rid of first before he can start moulding the club the way he wants to.
In the meantime, sit back and enjoy United's misery. And all the United fans in Surrey phoning in moaning about how awful things are.
I'm loving the misery . Although living down here in Sussex there's a lot of United fans I grew up with that now have Brighton Season Tickets but would never have been seen dead at the Withdean....
Do City have glory hunter fans in weird parts of the country? Doesn’t feel like that’s happened to the same extent it did when United were winning everything?
We have one in our Essex office... known him for decades - went from Man U to City like it was no big deal (it’s all Manchester right!? I WISH I was making this up!). Never been to a game in his life, but always the first person to bring up football on a Monday morning. He's been City for long enough now that the newbies in the office don't know - I just roll my eyes.
Are you saying he made this switch in adulthood? I understand little kids flip flopping from one team to another. I’d say it’s pretty basic childish behaviour. But a grown adult? Maybe it’s just me, but I find that really weird.
Grown ass adult (older than me!) and I swear to god the way he framed it at the time (as far as I remember it was 10 years ago now) he just came out with it one day and tried to justify it as him being a Manchester fan in general and therefore didn't see any issue with switching allegiance to the blue half because "it's all Manchester innit" and even tried to maintain for a while that he followed BOTH although that position slowly morphed to just City.
It was and still is completely unfathomable to me but you only have to talk with him about football for 5 minutes to get the complete measure of him and his footballing opinions (something I gave up on long ago now!). It genuinely wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't even really like football at all deep down and he just talks about it to try and fit in. I don't even devote the energy with him anymore just smile and nod whilst rolling my eyes at his nonsense. Half the office are Spurs anyway so 9 times out of 10 on a Monday football talk gets the ban hammer anyway!
I think United as a club are too broken for anyone to succeed. Amorim was one of the names linked to every big vacancy and I'm sure he'll be successful somewhere else but there's so much wrong at United on and off the field that I can't see him ever sorting this out.
United just continue to make a complete mess of things. They decided to keep Ten Hag off the back of the FA cup win when all reports pre-game said he was going to be fired. Their league form and performances should've seen him fired but not only did they keep him, they bizarrely extended his contract. They then gave him almost 200m to spend.
3 months into the season shock horror they're still shit and he's fired, costing them more money in severance pay as they'd just extended his contract. Then they bring in a manager who they know plays a certain way, but he doesn't have the players to play the way he wants to, and there isn't a transfer window to address it. This therefore means that Amorim is trying to make do with what he has.
If they'd done things properly then Amorim would've been hired in the summer, the 200m could've been given to him to buy players he needs for his style of play and then they might be doing better than they are. Right now they're just stumbling from one mistake to another and i've no idea how they're going to fix it.
I understand the reasons why, but I really don’t like how teams like Man City sub their big stars off, stop really trying and become tedious once they’ve secured a thrashing like this. They spent the last twenty five minutes passing it around the back four. What was a hugely entertaining first hour or so turned into a dull as fuck last quarter. Shame. Nothing against Ipswich, but I want to see teams show what they're capable of in these situations.
To be fair City have a MASSIVE Champions League game this Wednesday at PSG. All teams would do what they did.
Amorim says that this is the worst United team in their history. To be fair, they've only spent £800m putting the squad together.
They aren’t great but surely they can’t be worse than the squad that was relegated?
Football only started in 1992...
To be fair to Amorim, I assume he didn't literally mean they were worse than the original Newton Heath side or the 1923/24 team or whatever, but the worst in modern history. But that doesn't reflect well on him, as bad teams aren't just down to individual players, but also to the tactics and motivation provided by the manager. Man U are 11 points Bournemouth now and 18 behind Forest, that squad of players is way better than that.
Amorim says that this is the worst United team in their history. To be fair, they've only spent £800m putting the squad together.
They aren’t great but surely they can’t be worse than the squad that was relegated?
Overall yes that United side of 1973-74 were worst. In terms of commitment to United they probably weren't but were in a transitional period with the likes of Charlton, Law, Best (who only played a dozen games before he had his contract cancelled), Stiles, Sadler etc etc having left or retired. The squad still had players of the calibre of Alex Stepney, Martin Buchan, George Graham, Jim McCalliog, Lou Macari, Gerry Daly, Sammy McIlroy, Brian Kidd, Mick Martin, Brian Greenhoff, Willie Morgan but their biggest issue was finding the back of the net. After 12 games, their keeper, Alex Stepney, was their joint top scorer with two goals by virtue of being their penalty taker!!!
I think that calling them that is a way of trying to get them to do something that they failed to do previously - actually wear the shirt with pride and give their all to the cause.
Amorim says that this is the worst United team in their history. To be fair, they've only spent £800m putting the squad together.
I imagine he said that for 2 reasons.
1. To cover his own arse because they're doing so badly. 2. A strong message to the board to get new signings in. We're 3 weeks into the window and they've signed no one despite it being pretty obvious they need players who can play his system.
Amorim says that this is the worst United team in their history. To be fair, they've only spent £800m putting the squad together.
I imagine he said that for 2 reasons.
1. To cover his own arse because they're doing so badly. 2. A strong message to the board to get new signings in. We're 3 weeks into the window and they've signed no one despite it being pretty obvious they need players who can play his system.
I understand why he said it, but I don’t think it’s a very good idea.
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What was a hugely entertaining first hour or so turned into a dull as fuck last quarter.
Shame. Nothing against Ipswich, but I want to see teams show what they're capable of in these situations.
It was and still is completely unfathomable to me but you only have to talk with him about football for 5 minutes to get the complete measure of him and his footballing opinions (something I gave up on long ago now!). It genuinely wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't even really like football at all deep down and he just talks about it to try and fit in. I don't even devote the energy with him anymore just smile and nod whilst rolling my eyes at his nonsense. Half the office are Spurs anyway so 9 times out of 10 on a Monday football talk gets the ban hammer anyway!
3 months into the season shock horror they're still shit and he's fired, costing them more money in severance pay as they'd just extended his contract. Then they bring in a manager who they know plays a certain way, but he doesn't have the players to play the way he wants to, and there isn't a transfer window to address it. This therefore means that Amorim is trying to make do with what he has.
If they'd done things properly then Amorim would've been hired in the summer, the 200m could've been given to him to buy players he needs for his style of play and then they might be doing better than they are. Right now they're just stumbling from one mistake to another and i've no idea how they're going to fix it.
To be fair to Amorim, I assume he didn't literally mean they were worse than the original Newton Heath side or the 1923/24 team or whatever, but the worst in modern history. But that doesn't reflect well on him, as bad teams aren't just down to individual players, but also to the tactics and motivation provided by the manager. Man U are 11 points Bournemouth now and 18 behind Forest, that squad of players is way better than that.
I think that calling them that is a way of trying to get them to do something that they failed to do previously - actually wear the shirt with pride and give their all to the cause.
1. To cover his own arse because they're doing so badly.
2. A strong message to the board to get new signings in. We're 3 weeks into the window and they've signed no one despite it being pretty obvious they need players who can play his system.