Painful though it may be no one, objectively, could look at that game and say the result was wrong.
Better than us all over the park BUT the post Southgate era coming looks very, very encouraging providing we don't appoint another overly cautious manager.
Piss off Lineker, with that "its a win for attacking Football"
He's not wrong though, is he?
They didnt attack when they were pegged back by Germany and France.
They just wasted 4-mins of injury time by rolling around on the floor, they brought foul after cheap foul against France, and managed a few tonight - Was that the beautiful game right there?
Didn’t expect to win, , Spain are exceptional, so remarkably relaxed. As for the vitriol against Southgate, it’s boring, he’s done an exceptional job in the past few years, hate the hate poured on him.
on the plus side I predicted 2-1, Spain first scorer and named the scorer on my work prediction league so at least I’ve won enough for a good beer or two.
Last time v Italy I was fucking broken. Felt like a massive missed opportunity.
This time I’m naturally gutted but we’ve stunk for pretty much the whole tournament and shithoused our way through.
Come up against a better side and the better side won.
Southgate won’t win a tournament with us. Off you fuck - get to as many finals as you want but we still haven’t won it so who gives a shit. No prizes for coming second
To win you have to get to finals first… let’s hope the next bloke is as good as Southgate at that.
Rice constantly gave the ball away and then missed the easiest third header from the late corner. Yet let’s make Kane who wasn’t even on the pitch the scapegoat.
Jeez, we got to the final and thousands of fans had a lot of fun along the way. Then we lost to the best team of the tournament.
Can we stop beating ourselves up just for once? Juan Mata is talking the most sense in the BBC studio.
Gary Lineker says it’s a painful business losing finals. He wouldn’t know for England, would he?
Didn’t expect to win, , Spain are exceptional, so remarkably relaxed. As for the vitriol against Southgate, it’s boring, he’s done an exceptional job in the past few years, hate the hate poured on him.
Yeah it’s the worst of England fans (sorry not sorry).
I get wanting to win but I can’t understand anyone who’s watched England pre-2016 and since, and think the problem is Gareth Southgate.
We don’t have a divine right to win. We don’t have a divine right to get to finals even.
Last time v Italy I was fucking broken. Felt like a massive missed opportunity.
This time I’m naturally gutted but we’ve stunk for pretty much the whole tournament and shithoused our way through.
Come up against a better side and the better side won.
Southgate won’t win a tournament with us. Off you fuck - get to as many finals as you want but we still haven’t won it so who gives a shit. No prizes for coming second
To win you have to get to finals first… let’s hope the next bloke is as good as Southgate at that.
Those who came before him managed well enough, so I'm sure Southgate's replacement will do just fine - Really hope he goes now, as the criticism that he hadnt won the Tournament during the Group Stages was just ridiculous
on the plus side I predicted 2-1, Spain first scorer and named the scorer on my work prediction league so at least I’ve won enough for a good beer or two.
Southgate needed to be braver with the selections and I think tonight showed that up more than ever. Yes I get it Kane is the captain and he was our top scorer, but you cannot tell me we look good with him in the side. Every time we took him off we got better, and we should have said fuck it, bench him and see if he can be the difference maker late on instead of having him stroll about for an hour
Taking Kane off made no difference tonight.
It made a difference initially as we had more tempo when Watkins came on but we needed the five subs on the field by the 80th minute to keep the momentum we got with the goal.
Southgate needed to be braver with the selections and I think tonight showed that up more than ever. Yes I get it Kane is the captain and he was our top scorer, but you cannot tell me we look good with him in the side. Every time we took him off we got better, and we should have said fuck it, bench him and see if he can be the difference maker late on instead of having him stroll about for an hour
Taking Kane off made no difference tonight.
Lol ok, apart from the fact we played faster football, had a focal point up top in Watkins and scored a goal from the edge of the box because we actually had a couple of players in their box for a change?
Sitting back.Spain score. Start pressing... we score. Sit back again..... Spain score.
It's very simple when you look at it, and they never learn. It was the same vs Italy in the final. We scored and sat back. You can't do that at any level of football.
Kane did fuck all again. Pointless him being on the pitch.
Anyone watching ITV hear Dixon call Southgate a genius after Palmer scored. A genius for doing what 98% of the Nation have been shouting at their telly screens to do, for the last 3 weeks? Jesus christ.....
It’s a strong field, but I think Dixon is the worst commentator.
Imagine there's a bit of a sigh of relief on here...
Imagine had Southgate had won this Tournament with a lot of the comments on here this Tournament, you'd have looked mugs a lot of you!!
Zero negativity between the semi final performance and the final.
But sure crack on pretending people wanted England to lose.
Gutted today as it was within our grasp with 10 mins to go.
Yeah because you suddenly changed your tune... Easy to do when that happens isnt it
Because we performed well and actually looked like a team that had a chance?
Criticism happens with poor performance, praise happens with good performance. It's football.
The idea that anyone is rooting against England on here is moronic.
I mean the entire Tournament, you've been screaming at Southgate saying who he should be playing, and who shouldn't - Cant wait to see your tenure as a Manager.
You're constant moaning, and slagging off whether its England / Charlton is just tiresome
Don’t get me wrong, Spain were very good, but we were not very good first half. After conceding and subs were forced, we started threatening again, but the way we went back to being slow and ponderous almost immediately after equalising speaks volumes to me.
Spain deserved to win it.
I’d have loved us to win it, but we got a lot further than our play deserved. We should’ve gone out against Slovakia.
And minor annoyances like the “onside by a kneecap” or the ref blowing on 4 minutes despite all the time wasting are exactly that - minor. I’d rather they did more to combat timewasting, but that’s not why we lost.
Some will say it’s ridiculous that Southgate gets shit for his management given his record, but it’s undeniable that we’ve looked poor throughout this tournament. We’ve been saved by miracle moments right up to the end. We’re so desperately dull and it’s frankly unfathomable how bad a team we look when you look at the available talent.
Last time v Italy I was fucking broken. Felt like a massive missed opportunity.
This time I’m naturally gutted but we’ve stunk for pretty much the whole tournament and shithoused our way through.
Come up against a better side and the better side won.
Southgate won’t win a tournament with us. Off you fuck - get to as many finals as you want but we still haven’t won it so who gives a shit. No prizes for coming second
To win you have to get to finals first… let’s hope the next bloke is as good as Southgate at that.
Those who came before him managed well enough, so I'm sure Southgate's replacement will do just fine - Really hope he goes now, as the criticism that he hadnt won the Tournament during the Group Stages was just ridiculous
Revisionist nonsense, apart from Robson and el Tel, we’ve been poorly managed, and had as deeper pools of talent wasted
Sitting back.Spain score. Start pressing... we score. Sit back again..... Spain score.
It's very simple when you look at it, and they never learn. It was the same vs Italy in the final. We scored and sat back. You can't do that at any level of football.
Kane did fuck all again. Pointless him being on the pitch.
My goodness you’ve cracked it - someone at the FA needs to give you a call.
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Better than us all over the park BUT the post Southgate era coming looks very, very encouraging providing we don't appoint another overly cautious manager.
But sure crack on pretending people wanted England to lose.
Gutted today as it was within our grasp with 10 mins to go.
They just wasted 4-mins of injury time by rolling around on the floor, they brought foul after cheap foul against France, and managed a few tonight - Was that the beautiful game right there?
I get wanting to win but I can’t understand anyone who’s watched England pre-2016 and since, and think the problem is Gareth Southgate.
Criticism happens with poor performance, praise happens with good performance. It's football.
The idea that anyone is rooting against England on here is moronic.
It made a difference initially as we had more tempo when Watkins came on but we needed the five subs on the field by the 80th minute to keep the momentum we got with the goal.
I'm still very proud of our team; as they should be
It's very simple when you look at it, and they never learn. It was the same vs Italy in the final. We scored and sat back. You can't do that at any level of football.
I'm not bitter.
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You're constant moaning, and slagging off whether its England / Charlton is just tiresome
Spain deserved to win it.
And minor annoyances like the “onside by a kneecap” or the ref blowing on 4 minutes despite all the time wasting are exactly that - minor. I’d rather they did more to combat timewasting, but that’s not why we lost.
Some will say it’s ridiculous that Southgate gets shit for his management given his record, but it’s undeniable that we’ve looked poor throughout this tournament. We’ve been saved by miracle moments right up to the end. We’re so desperately dull and it’s frankly unfathomable how bad a team we look when you look at the available talent.
Anyway. Congratulations Spain. And Scotland.