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England v Spain: Euro 2024 Final, 14 July
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Let's not turn on one another chaps. It's frustrating but we all follow in different ways.3
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Best way to lose is to a better team.Offer a loss in the final to a 10 year old, 20 year old, 30 year old, or even 40 year old life time England @KiwiValley supporter and he would have bitten your hand off. English football is respectable now and that’s of some consolation.12
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Spain were light years ahead, we were clinging on at 1-1 and our best chance was a shoot out win, but it would never have gotten that far.0
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He's right.lordromford said:Don’t get me wrong, Spain were very good, but we were not very good first half. After conceding and subs were forced, we started threatening again, but the way we went back to being slow and ponderous almost immediately after equalising speaks volumes to me.
Spain deserved to win it.I’d have loved us to win it, but we got a lot further than our play deserved. We should’ve gone out against Slovakia.
And minor annoyances like the “onside by a kneecap” or the ref blowing on 4 minutes despite all the time wasting are exactly that - minor. I’d rather they did more to combat timewasting, but that’s not why we lost.
Some will say it’s ridiculous that Southgate gets shit for his management given his record, but it’s undeniable that we’ve looked poor throughout this tournament. We’ve been saved by miracle moments right up to the end. We’re so desperately dull and it’s frankly unfathomable how bad a team we look when you look at the available talent.
Anyway. Congratulations Spain. And Scotland.0 -
killerandflash said:Rio and Micah have changed their tune. I don't remember them being so critical earlier in the tournament.
They were killer after the group games and the last 16 game but perked up after the Swiss and the Netherlands matches.
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It's always sad in sport, whether you're playing or supporting a team, that you come away feeling that you've died wondering. When you're a League 2 team in the FA Cup playing a PL side, you have to play a certain way. When you have gifted players but play as if you are that League 2 team then you will die wondering what might have been. And that's how we've played. Not to lose until a point in time in the game when we've been forced to go on the front foot. Time ran out for us to do that tonight yet again.3
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No need to be upset. Nathan is captaining HMS piss the league!1
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Spain came out at half time revitalised we came out stagnant.3
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I have to agree with this. We played about 40 mins good football in the entire tournament. Once again we were blessed with an extraordinarily easy side of the draw and yet were one minute away from going out to Slovakia. Spain showed the gap is still very wide and we have to move on.SporadicAddick said:Great to see us in another final but in reality we played one decent proactive half in the whole tournament.But did better that Germany, Italy, France, Netherlands, and some other great footballing nations. And Scotland.
The kind of ridiculous qualified statements that have gone on is an embarrassment. Saying Kane played well because he was joint top scorer with three goals, as if you should not believe the evidence of your eyes. Or that we are a 'moments' team because we rescue games when we're losing. It's a coping mindset. I'm not sure if I'll ever see us win but this certainly isn't the way.0 -
Pure bravado. You KNOW its never the missus that sleeps on the sofa.CL_Phantom said:Fxck Spain and fxck all my neighbours celebrations. Missus can sleep on the sofa tonight.
I'm not bitter.
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Rodri deserves POTT but Olmo has to be close despite only starting three games.ForeverAddickted said:That Olmo clearance off the line... f**king outstanding3 -
But still better than any of the women.se9addick said:
It’s a strong field, but I think Dixon is the worst commentator.Gribbo said:Anyone watching ITV hear Dixon call Southgate a genius after Palmer scored. A genius for doing what 98% of the Nation have been shouting at their telly screens to do, for the last 3 weeks? Jesus christ.....0 -
At lot of talk already about needing to take the shackles off. I agree vs Slovakia and Switzerland. We did vs. Netherlands. If we’d just gone at Spain from the off today they’d have picked us apart, which they did a few times second half when we were chasing it. The plan was working perfectly first half, but we didn’t make the most of the couple of decent openings we had first half and then switched off early in the second to concede. That forced us to open up looking for an equaliser and that’s when Spain started to look like the side that have been earlier in the tournament.Keeping it tight and nicking one was always our best chance tonight. These big games, they swing in small moments - they didn’t go for us tonight. It’s shit, and you’ll always question if you could have done things differently or better, but I’d don’t think England played poorly or we got the tactics all wrong. Someone has to lose and the best team won on the night.4
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Imagine it went to Yamal, cos he's 16!!SDAddick said:
Rodri deserves POTT but Olmo has to be close despite only starting three games.ForeverAddickted said:That Olmo clearance off the line... f**king outstanding0 -
That is pure sexism.superclive98 said:
But still better than any of the women.se9addick said:
It’s a strong field, but I think Dixon is the worst commentator.Gribbo said:Anyone watching ITV hear Dixon call Southgate a genius after Palmer scored. A genius for doing what 98% of the Nation have been shouting at their telly screens to do, for the last 3 weeks? Jesus christ.....5 -
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No Kane is lazy and shit.Addictedoldgit said:Pity that Kane & Bellingham were way off their best, especially Kane - carrying an injury?0 -
Best team won. It wasn’t penalties or a hand of god etc. They were just better. Gutting but that’s sport.18
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Piss offDazzler21 said:Let's not turn on one another chaps. It's frustrating but we all follow in different ways.6 -
Good day for Spain, Garcia in the LIV Golf, Carlos Alcaraz at Wimbledon and Spain in the Euros.0
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Just hope that regardless of the Manager, this type of fixture remains the norm for England going forward - We should be winning things, but the fact we'd taken so long to reach a Final pre-2021 was even more criminal.1
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Onto the important stuff.......sod England.0
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Walker thinks he's a better player than he is. He's really not that good just uses exceptional pace to get him out of trouble.superclive98 said:
But got caught out of position time and time again tonight. He should realise that his pace can't save him every time.Dazzler21 said:I hope Walker gets one more tourney. One of our best defenders still at his age. Just please stop tucking into midfield.0 -
Well it is bed time.up_the_valley said:
Piss offDazzler21 said:Let's not turn on one another chaps. It's frustrating but we all follow in different ways.0 -
It's not my fault they're all shit!Dazzler21 said:
That is pure sexism.superclive98 said:
But still better than any of the women.se9addick said:
It’s a strong field, but I think Dixon is the worst commentator.Gribbo said:Anyone watching ITV hear Dixon call Southgate a genius after Palmer scored. A genius for doing what 98% of the Nation have been shouting at their telly screens to do, for the last 3 weeks? Jesus christ.....1 -
Mate I have been critical of Southgate the last couple of tournaments but I always want England to win. I don’t dislike the guy I actually think he is a decent man and has done fantastic in shaping the England set up from the mess it was in. However I don’t believe we will win anything with him at the helm he is just to negative. Teams that win things are brave in their approach Southgate is notForeverAddickted said:Imagine there's a bit of a sigh of relief on here...
Imagine had Southgate had won this Tournament with a lot of the comments on here this Tournament, you'd have looked mugs a lot of you!!9 -
Doesn’t sting anywhere near as much as Italy. They were fucking crap. At least Spain were a good side19
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Lets hope that the next man can do that then... I'm just reluctant to criticise his approach, given we've tried it the other way under previous Managers, and have fallen even earlierAndyG said:
Mate I have been critical of Southgate the last couple of tournaments but I always want England to win. I don’t dislike the guy I actually think he is a decent man and has done fantastic in shaping the England set up from the mess it was in. However I don’t believe we will win anything with him at the helm he is just to negative. Teams that win things are brave in their approach Southgate is notForeverAddickted said:Imagine there's a bit of a sigh of relief on here...
Imagine had Southgate had won this Tournament with a lot of the comments on here this Tournament, you'd have looked mugs a lot of you!!0 -
Sorry, genuinely gutted for England. As many have said, the best team won in the end. But England looked better in stretches. It's weird to think this is the same team that almost went out to Slovakia. England under Southgate have gone from a team perennially losing quarter finals to never quite winning a final. It's an impressive change in fortune and player development.
No fault in effort, just came up against a better team that, importantly, fits better together. De La Fuente is like his successful predecessors in one regard: he knows his Subs and when to make them. All tournament they changed Morata for Oyarzabal on 70ish minutes. Oyarzabal keeps the ball better and drops deep well, but is naturally a winger with an eye for goal. Tonight it worked and a lot of it was down to players fitting well together and knowing their roles. It reminds me of 2008 when Alonso and Guiza would come on no matter what and change the dynamic of the team.
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Bloody hurts. The game went exactly as I expected it would, they were gonna dominate and was always gonna come down to who took their chances. Next time maybe, I dunno.2
