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POST-MATCH THREAD : Charlton Athletic v Birmingham City: Saturday 5th October 2024: KO 15:00

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  • When was the last time we scored on a long throw?  I can’t think of a single one before this past weekend
  • edited October 8
    seth plum said:
    Chapter two, leaving a player upfield when defending corners.
    Have we tried that at all this season? Pretty much every manager I can remember in recent times seems to bring the whole team back.
  • edited October 8
    If that player is TC or perhaps Dixon, they will have to withdraw two players. Ideally any clearances not a hoof upfield bur like the Greek Euro side, a low grubber into space or along the touchline

  • Occasionally we play a team that leaves a player up when we have a corner, but these days it is a lesser spotted phenomenon.
    Having seen Dixon live, if he ever plays he is so fast that you could whack a ball away almost anywhere when defending a corner, and he would likely get to it first.
  • Compared to Tuesday night, that was as chalk to cheese, and whilst Tuesday was a great slab of the cliffs of Dover, today we saw a truckle of the finest farmhouse Cheddar, cave aged in a Welsh sleep mine.
    Yes very welcome performance that steadies the nerves and gives us hope that this dire period of time in Div 1 may come to an end at some point. BUT the opposition was very different and played in a very predictable way and it was nullified by obvious counter tactics ( -yes very hard to maintain that effort, concentration and determination). We have seen this before ( Bolton) and last season. So a repeat of a previously successful tactic against passing teams. It doesn't answer the question of how we are going to beat the lesser  teams in the division as they will kick it long ( especially after seeing that display).When we see consistent performance outplaying the lower teams thats when the dial shifts.

  • Scoham said:
    seth plum said:
    Chapter two, leaving a player upfield when defending corners.
    Have we tried that at all this season? Pretty much every manager I can remember in recent times seems to bring the whole team back.
    I enjoyed the tactic in the 2019 team of leaving LT and Grant up -wide on the wings so opposition had to leave 2/3 defenders back. Some exciting breaks 
  • Scoham said:
    seth plum said:
    Chapter two, leaving a player upfield when defending corners.
    Have we tried that at all this season? Pretty much every manager I can remember in recent times seems to bring the whole team back.
    The modern way to defend a corner is a mix of zonal and marking. Because you usually have 3 zonal players that means you need everyone else back to mark 

    It’s definitely the best way to defend a corner, so probably worth sacrificing the one goal a season you score from a quick ball over the top to a player staying on the halfway line 
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  • edited October 8
    NabySarr said:
    Scoham said:
    seth plum said:
    Chapter two, leaving a player upfield when defending corners.
    Have we tried that at all this season? Pretty much every manager I can remember in recent times seems to bring the whole team back.
    The modern way to defend a corner is a mix of zonal and marking. Because you usually have 3 zonal players that means you need everyone else back to mark 

    It’s definitely the best way to defend a corner, so probably worth sacrificing the one goal a season you score from a quick ball over the top to a player staying on the halfway line 
    It’s nothing to do with the outside chance of scoring on the break.

    It’s about hopefully keeping the cleared ball, so it doesn’t continually come back into your penalty box.
    I’d imagine that research shows that more goals are conceded from corners than the balls back into a box from corners. Which you often don’t win anyway as the opposition will leave an extra man back so will always have a numerical advantage to give them a better chance of continually sending it back 

    All of the smartest minds in the game are setting their teams up to defend corners in this way, so I’d imagine a lot of research and numbers are behind it. And there’s probably more benefit of having the extra man back, than having a slight chance of winning out in a 1 vs 2 battle on the halfway line 
  • The reason Birmingham got beat fair and square, and may I say should have been really put to the sword long before Matty got the goal, was because we had them sussed and outplayed them in every area, naff all with Birmingham being " a bit off their best".
    The reason they were not really a threat to our goal, was because we marshalled the defence and snuffed out their threat in the middle, and as for attack, well less said about that the better.
    No we deserved the win fair and square due to our own efforts and naff all to do with the opposition...

    Well said.
  • edited October 10
    As our skipper said it’s still only 3 points 
  • As our skipper said it’s still only 3 points 
    Well, there is that.
    It remains to be seen whether we can use this performance as a springboard.
    How will we fare when we next come up against a side that sits back and says, here's the ball, what have you got?
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