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MATCH THREAD: Southend Utd v Charlton Athletic: FACR1 Saturday 2nd Nov 2024: KO 15:00 [+post p24]

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  • Major said:

    Funny really, reading the usual suspects criticisms on here today of pretty much everything and everyone involved with CAFC, you'd never see them describe two superb deliveries and headers, an out of this world reaction save by Mannion, a really daft penalty call and two ridiculous deflections. You certainly would not know about a sublime shielding, half turn and strike from yet another allegedly useless player, which won us the game.

    Nowt queer as folk.
    Daft penalty decision? That’s silly, stonewall!
  • se9addick said:
    Didn't see any of it but the important thing is we won and our strikers scoring should give them confidence for a run of winnable games. A cliche but this was a real banana skin - this time last year we couldn't beat Cray Wanderers, a team way below Southend in the pyramid, at home!
    It wasn’t even Cray Wanderers, it was Cray Valley Paper Mills - the second best Cray team!
    Look at the Isthmian League Premier table. CVPM definitely the best team in Cray. 
  • edited November 3
    se9addick said:
    Didn't see any of it but the important thing is we won and our strikers scoring should give them confidence for a run of winnable games. A cliche but this was a real banana skin - this time last year we couldn't beat Cray Wanderers, a team way below Southend in the pyramid, at home!
    It wasn’t even Cray Wanderers, it was Cray Valley Paper Mills - the second best Cray team!
    Lol! Course it was, my mistake :)
  • TC now injured, according to NJ, injured in Wrexham game, come on as sub during week but had a scan after. Another one out
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  • Pico said:
    se9addick said:
    Didn't see any of it but the important thing is we won and our strikers scoring should give them confidence for a run of winnable games. A cliche but this was a real banana skin - this time last year we couldn't beat Cray Wanderers, a team way below Southend in the pyramid, at home!
    It wasn’t even Cray Wanderers, it was Cray Valley Paper Mills - the second best Cray team!
    Look at the Isthmian League Premier table. CVPM definitely the best team in Cray. 
    Neither are in Cray.
  • You can't have "too much" negativity can you? especially after safely progressing through to the next round of the cup and when no one has self combusted yet. Load of big old dogs cock as someone said.
  • shirty5 said:
    “We are in the lap of the Gods and praise the Lord, he was shining on us.”
    I had heard he’s a bit of a god botherer. 
  • Ben18 said:
    Just watched the highlights, I thought the penalty decision was fine.

    Taylor throws his arm up behind him, and in a very unnatural position as it blocks the ball.
    Well I agree he’s got good vision,  but he’s literally got his back to the ball, how did he know to put that arm up? 
    Because if you stick your arm out behind you, you stand a fair chance of blocking the cross. It’s definitely intentional handball. Nobody needs to stick an arm out backwards like that; he’s not using it like that  to keep his balance.
  • Can I say we won because we were miles better?
  • Ben18 said:
    Just watched the highlights, I thought the penalty decision was fine.

    Taylor throws his arm up behind him, and in a very unnatural position as it blocks the ball.
    Well I agree he’s got good vision,  but he’s literally got his back to the ball, how did he know to put that arm up? 
    Because if you stick your arm out behind you, you stand a fair chance of blocking the cross. It’s definitely intentional handball. Nobody needs to stick an arm out backwards like that; he’s not using it like that  to keep his balance.
    "DEFINITELY intentional handball"? You know what he was thinking at the time? Have a guess what I'm thinking now.

    Anyway, "intentional" doesnt come into the equation these days.
  • Off_it said:
    Ben18 said:
    Just watched the highlights, I thought the penalty decision was fine.

    Taylor throws his arm up behind him, and in a very unnatural position as it blocks the ball.
    Well I agree he’s got good vision,  but he’s literally got his back to the ball, how did he know to put that arm up? 
    Because if you stick your arm out behind you, you stand a fair chance of blocking the cross. It’s definitely intentional handball. Nobody needs to stick an arm out backwards like that; he’s not using it like that  to keep his balance.
    "DEFINITELY intentional handball"? You know what he was thinking at the time? Have a guess what I'm thinking now.

    Anyway, "intentional" doesnt come into the equation these days.
    At first, I thought the penalty decision was a joke, but having watched it a few more times on replay I think the referee got it right.
  • If there is a god, he made it abundantly clear he despises Charlton 😂
    She
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  • Can I say we won because we were miles better?
    We weren’t though. We had more quality in front of goal, but we were outplayed and outworked for long periods of the game.
  • Fumbluff said:
    LouisMend said:
    The press facilities at Southend are extremely tight. Four different commentary teams all sat on top of each other, behind a glass window. 
    I mean those often are the best type of windows, I’ve never really gotten on with brick windows??
    You obviously aren’t bothered by the window tax. 
  • Off_it said:
    Ben18 said:
    Just watched the highlights, I thought the penalty decision was fine.

    Taylor throws his arm up behind him, and in a very unnatural position as it blocks the ball.
    Well I agree he’s got good vision,  but he’s literally got his back to the ball, how did he know to put that arm up? 
    Because if you stick your arm out behind you, you stand a fair chance of blocking the cross. It’s definitely intentional handball. Nobody needs to stick an arm out backwards like that; he’s not using it like that  to keep his balance.
    "DEFINITELY intentional handball"? You know what he was thinking at the time? Have a guess what I'm thinking now.

    Anyway, "intentional" doesnt come into the equation these days.
    You’re thinking that it wasn’t intentional. 

    I guess also that you’re thinking about having lunch, and I reckon that it’s an intention too.
  • Who else left after Southend's third thinking at least we'd secured a replay? Bloke called in to LBC last night saying he did. Think the co-commentator on BBC radio at the time also said our end was noticably emptier just before extra time.   
  • Who else left after Southend's third thinking at least we'd secured a replay? Bloke called in to LBC last night saying he did. Think the co-commentator on BBC radio at the time also said our end was noticably emptier just before extra time.   
    He called in to tell people he didn't understand that there are no replays in this year's FA Cup, from R1 onwards? 
  • Off_it said:
    Off_it said:
    Ben18 said:
    Just watched the highlights, I thought the penalty decision was fine.

    Taylor throws his arm up behind him, and in a very unnatural position as it blocks the ball.
    Well I agree he’s got good vision,  but he’s literally got his back to the ball, how did he know to put that arm up? 
    Because if you stick your arm out behind you, you stand a fair chance of blocking the cross. It’s definitely intentional handball. Nobody needs to stick an arm out backwards like that; he’s not using it like that  to keep his balance.
    "DEFINITELY intentional handball"? You know what he was thinking at the time? Have a guess what I'm thinking now.

    Anyway, "intentional" doesnt come into the equation these days.
    At first, I thought the penalty decision was a joke, but having watched it a few more times on replay I think the referee got it right.
    It's one of those. Some go for you - like last week - and some go against you. Personally when a ball is walloped at a player from a couple of yards away like that i think it's a lottery. The fact he was off balance means it looks worse when the ball hits an arm because the impact can move the arm further from the body, so exaggerates things.

    Is that an "unnatural position" for the arm to be in? Yes, if you just see the still picture. No if you watch the video, as he's clearly off balance. His arms (and legs) arent in a natural position  for someone standing at a bus stop, but are perfectly natural for a footballer trying to stay on his feet whilst trying to block a shot at the same time.

    Anyone who thinks he flung his arms out with the intention of blocking the ball has either never played football in their lives or is after a rise, in my view.
    I played for 25 years and now referee occasionally. As a player I would have known I handballed it, and as a referee I would have given a penalty.

    It all hinges on “body movement” and if you think that the position of his arm was natural to his movement. Ultimately that’s a judgement call by the ref. I’ve watched it multiple times and it’s a penalty all day long.
    • touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised

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