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MATCH THREAD: Southend Utd v Charlton Athletic: FACR1 Saturday 2nd Nov 2024: KO 15:00 [+post p24]

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  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,128
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    Fine, but how do we know your "truth" is the real truth. Can you verify?
  • Ducktapeshoerepairs
    Ducktapeshoerepairs Posts: 970
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    Fine, but how do we know your "truth" is the real truth. Can you verify?


    This mentions the word ‘fee’ . Some speculation I read and was told mentioned the figure of £1million 
  • Rootshallbloke
    Rootshallbloke Posts: 14
    Greenhithe said:
    Rootshallbloke said:
    There seems to be a lot of huffing and puffing on here over your performance, and to be fair we do it as well, but the bottom line is you are in the hat for the 2nd round draw. I would have been quite happy to play like total tossers and still win to get to that point. Fact, you didn't play like total tossers, but you did allow us play to the top of our current abilities. So get excited for the draw tomorrow, I wish it was us you lucky gits. Good luck.
    Well said mate. Although we were bad you lot looked much better than your current position. Good luck for the rest of the season 
    Thanks Buddy. We are better, but not every week at the moment. We have finally got all our current squad fit and ready to go, so I'm banking on a decent run towards the play-offs.
  • Ducktapeshoerepairs
    Ducktapeshoerepairs Posts: 970
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    Fine, but how do we know your "truth" is the real truth. Can you verify?

    Then Richard Cawley, who many trust, said there was ‘no fee’ 
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,128
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    Fine, but how do we know your "truth" is the real truth. Can you verify?

    Then Richard Cawley, who many trust, said there was ‘no fee’ 
    Okay, thanks for that
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,059
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    You realise this is a loss making business, a significant sum is required just to keep the lights on.
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,128
    edited November 2024
    .Oops, duplicate post
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,059
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    Fine, but how do we know your "truth" is the real truth. Can you verify?

    Then Richard Cawley, who many trust, said there was ‘no fee’ 
    Okay, thanks for that
    Unless Coventry is playing for free, covering his salary will still require “investment”. Assuming that transfer fees are the only sign of investment is ridiculous. 

    I’m not sure that they’re spending money well, but the ownership are spending money nonetheless. 
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,128
    se9addick said:
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    Fine, but how do we know your "truth" is the real truth. Can you verify?

    Then Richard Cawley, who many trust, said there was ‘no fee’ 
    Okay, thanks for that
    Unless Coventry is playing for free, covering his salary will still require “investment”. Assuming that transfer fees are the only sign of investment is ridiculous. 


    Yeh, but that will apply to any incoming player and balanced by those we got rid of
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,833
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    Agree with this to be fair

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  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,812
    aliwibble said:
    Croydon said:
    AddicksAddict said:
    Can I say we won because we were miles better?
    We weren’t though. We had more quality in front of goal, but we were outplayed and outworked for long periods of the game.
    Isn't @AddicksAddict just making a Miles pun there?
    Good to see somebody gets it. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,420
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    Fine, but how do we know your "truth" is the real truth. Can you verify?
     There is and can only ever be ONE truth. The Truth. 

    Anything else, is opinion, rumour or guesswork.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,197
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    To be fair the club have repeatedly stated that they didn't spend anything like £1m on Ahadme, but since he's had a slow start fans have latched onto it to be as critical of him as possible. Can't have it both ways, we can't be investing heavily in bad players and also not at all but our fanbase is currently trying to argue both of these things when we don't win games
  • Ducktapeshoerepairs
    Ducktapeshoerepairs Posts: 970
    Garrymanilow said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    To be fair the club have repeatedly stated that they didn't spend anything like £1m on Ahadme, but since he's had a slow start fans have latched onto it to be as critical of him as possible. Can't have it both ways, we can't be investing heavily in bad players and also not at all but our fanbase is currently trying to argue both of these things when we don't win games
    I didn’t realise the club had stated that. Where did they state it ? 
  • Ducktapeshoerepairs
    Ducktapeshoerepairs Posts: 970
    Dazzler21 said:
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    Fine, but how do we know your "truth" is the real truth. Can you verify?
     There is and can only ever be ONE truth. The Truth. 

    Anything else, is opinion, rumour or guesswork.
    There is a bit of ‘opinion, rumour AND guesswork’ in what I said. But even yesterday, someone said to me in the pub at Southend, how this board had ‘invested really heavily in this squad’. They must be spending/losing a lot if money because the club is running at a huge loss, but I’m not so sure they are investing much in the playing squad. I think they are doing their best with not a lot of capital. That’s why I believe we sold May, so it covered a few of the incomings in the summer. 
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,128
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    Fine, but how do we know your "truth" is the real truth. Can you verify?
     There is and can only ever be ONE truth. The Truth. 

    Anything else, is opinion, rumour or guesswork.
    There is a bit of ‘opinion, rumour AND guesswork’ in what I said. But even yesterday, someone said to me in the pub at Southend, how this board had ‘invested really heavily in this squad’. They must be spending/losing a lot if money because the club is running at a huge loss, but I’m not so sure they are investing much in the playing squad. I think they are doing their best with not a lot of capital. That’s why I believe we sold May, so it covered a few of the incomings in the summer. 
    Which was the point I was trying to make.
    We are no more certain than those that insist large fees were paid.
    FWIW my views are not too far different to yours but, othere than the Cawley quote on Coventry, we  are all speculating
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,374
    edited November 2024
    Garrymanilow said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    To be fair the club have repeatedly stated that they didn't spend anything like £1m on Ahadme, but since he's had a slow start fans have latched onto it to be as critical of him as possible. Can't have it both ways, we can't be investing heavily in bad players and also not at all but our fanbase is currently trying to argue both of these things when we don't win games
    Repeatedly stated...? That's news to me... Can you provide a link or quote
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,833
    Garrymanilow said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    To be fair the club have repeatedly stated that they didn't spend anything like £1m on Ahadme, but since he's had a slow start fans have latched onto it to be as critical of him as possible. Can't have it both ways, we can't be investing heavily in bad players and also not at all but our fanbase is currently trying to argue both of these things when we don't win games
    Think you’re talking rubbish here mate

    the fee/ reputed fee / any fee is generally mentioned only incidentally 

    The point is he is/was our first choice no9 and he looked utter shite

    thats what people are commenting on and that would be the case if we’d signed him for free and he was playing for free any fee paid for him is just salt in the wounds 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,061
    Chizz said:
    swords_alive said:
    Who else left after Southend's third thinking at least we'd secured a replay? Bloke called in to LBC last night saying he did. Think the co-commentator on BBC radio at the time also said our end was noticably emptier just before extra time.   
    He called in to tell people he didn't understand that there are no replays in this year's FA Cup, from R1 onwards? 
    In fairness i thought the main (maybe only?) reason for scrapping replays was pressure from PL clubs because they play too many games. So why not keep replays for rounds 1 & 2 and just scrap them when the PL clubs come in at the 3rd round?

    A few non-league sides have missed out on a lot of extra money over the weekend because of games going to extra time that they then they lost.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,316
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    Investment isn’t our problem, we will once again have one of the largest budgets at this level and probably end up underperforming it. 

    We finished 16th last season, it was probably not going to be a quick fix. What we need to see is progress, are we a better team than last season? I would say we are but still probably 1 or 2 transfer windows away from where we want to be 

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  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,286
    edited November 2024
    NabySarr said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    Investment isn’t our problem, we will once again have one of the largest budgets at this level and probably end up underperforming it. 

    We finished 16th last season, it was probably not going to be a quick fix. What we need to see is progress, are we a better team than last season? I would say we are but still probably 1 or 2 transfer windows away from where we want to be 

    I wonder if our owners were told it would not be a quick fix and would need 3 seasons in L1? 

    If we don't go up this year then by end of next season they will be £40M down *, still not own any property assets and hoping they can sell Leaburn for a huge amount to offset a little bit of that. 

    They bought us as an investment!  How long before they get bored like Sandgaard and cut and run.

    * Source being Rodwell who said purchase price was £12M and CM who said we lose £9M a season in L1.  
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,316
    Athletico Charlton said:
    NabySarr said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    Investment isn’t our problem, we will once again have one of the largest budgets at this level and probably end up underperforming it. 

    We finished 16th last season, it was probably not going to be a quick fix. What we need to see is progress, are we a better team than last season? I would say we are but still probably 1 or 2 transfer windows away from where we want to be 

    I wonder if our owners were told it would not be a quick fix and would need 3 seasons in L1? 

    If we don't go up this year then by end of next season they will be £40M down *, still not own any property assets and hoping they can sell Leaburn for a huge amount to offset a little bit of that. 

    They bought us as an investment!  How long before they get bored like Sandgaard and cut and run.

    * Source being Rodwell who said purchase price was £12M and CM who said we lose £9M a season in L1.  
    They’d be able to get the purchase price back if they sold, potentially selling it for more than they bought it for with the current market for football clubs for American investors 

    I would guess that they forecasted us going up this season as their plan, but probably also looked at a scenario where we don’t. I think the 3rd season will be make or break, if we are still in league 1 after that then I think they will sell 
  • Grapevine49
    Grapevine49 Posts: 997
    Once again whether we challenge for promotion or not is not down to one player or indeed the fee (whatever that is) we paid for him. It will be down to the quality, experience, fitness, recent playing status and balance of the overall squad.

    You register your worst league position in living memory for a reason. 2023/ 2024 with a late change of ownership, a mini rebuild in a January transfer window and 3 Managers does not register as a stable base from which to build a promotion. Whether the US investors know it I have no idea.

    As far as I am aware the main reason we didn’t move to penalties on Saturday was the adroitness and finishing of Ahadme - (Our rumoured first target was Bair [Motherwell] who moved to Auxerre where he has made 4 starts and scored once from the bench)

    In the games Ahadme has started for us in the League where he was not injured we have won 4 drawn 1 lost 2. It is a team game. In 40 League 1 starts before he joined us he scored 15 goals and also scored a further 4 from the bench.

    If you want to challenge his work ethic, team ethic and professional commitment then subjectively you and I are watching a different player. Time was when players put in their shift it was enough to earn a little respect.

    To be clear I am not arguing anybody should be satisfied. I merely suggest you might want to reassess your overall expectation as it reads from the comments in all probability it is likely misplaced. Not saying play-offs / promotion won’t happen but most assuredly not saying they will. Anyone arguing Bowyer was empowered to win promotion would be rewriting history. 

    My truth is while there were significant improvements in this pre season preparation there were arguably very clearly missed steps. Such things invariably come back to bite. I would argue they already have. 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I think you’d have to be mixing Ahadme up with Berry if you think Ahadme isn’t a trier.
    Long contract, I sincerely hope he can get at least double figures goals this season.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,197
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    Garrymanilow said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    To be fair the club have repeatedly stated that they didn't spend anything like £1m on Ahadme, but since he's had a slow start fans have latched onto it to be as critical of him as possible. Can't have it both ways, we can't be investing heavily in bad players and also not at all but our fanbase is currently trying to argue both of these things when we don't win games
    I didn’t realise the club had stated that. Where did they state it ? 
    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5743749/2024/09/07/birmingham-city-transfer-window-spend/

    Not sure if that's accessible for everyone, never sure with The Athletic, but the quote is 'Gassan Ahadme's asking price at Ipswich went up to almost £1m but Charlton say they paid considerably less in what was also an undisclosed deal.' It's possible the fee is up to £1m after certain conditions are met, we just don't know the full details, but with what we've seen so far that seems unlikely.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,743
    I would say that it is not impossible for us to tighten up at the back and the addition of Leaburn makes a big offensive difference. We also have the January window if we stay in reasonable touch. It is a bit early to be writing off our season.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,197
    paulsturgess said:
    Garrymanilow said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    To be fair the club have repeatedly stated that they didn't spend anything like £1m on Ahadme, but since he's had a slow start fans have latched onto it to be as critical of him as possible. Can't have it both ways, we can't be investing heavily in bad players and also not at all but our fanbase is currently trying to argue both of these things when we don't win games
    Think you’re talking rubbish here mate

    the fee/ reputed fee / any fee is generally mentioned only incidentally 

    The point is he is/was our first choice no9 and he looked utter shite

    thats what people are commenting on and that would be the case if we’d signed him for free and he was playing for free any fee paid for him is just salt in the wounds 
    You're having a completely different conversation. I'm not saying that Ahadme shouldn't be criticised, he should, I'm saying that despite indications that we haven't paid £1m for him that often gets ignored because it's an additional stick to beat him/the club with. He's been poor so far but it's very similar to the Francis Jeffers transfer, to the point that that's a running joke on here. 'Can't believe we paid £2.5m for Francis Jeffers' but we paid very little because he was rubbish and didn't get anywhere near the add-ons that would have taken him up to the full fee. We're even in agreement at the end of your post, the fee is 'salt in the wounds' so it gets brought up a lot in addition and made fact. We're a depressed fanbase, we like to be as sad as possible and we'll make the rumours fact and the inconvenient facts rumours. Point is though we can't claim nothing has been spent while also claiming we spent £1m on one player, the two things conflict.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,499
    Garrymanilow said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    Garrymanilow said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    To be fair the club have repeatedly stated that they didn't spend anything like £1m on Ahadme, but since he's had a slow start fans have latched onto it to be as critical of him as possible. Can't have it both ways, we can't be investing heavily in bad players and also not at all but our fanbase is currently trying to argue both of these things when we don't win games
    I didn’t realise the club had stated that. Where did they state it ? 
    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5743749/2024/09/07/birmingham-city-transfer-window-spend/

    Not sure if that's accessible for everyone, never sure with The Athletic, but the quote is 'Gassan Ahadme's asking price at Ipswich went up to almost £1m but Charlton say they paid considerably less in what was also an undisclosed deal.' It's possible the fee is up to £1m after certain conditions are met, we just don't know the full details, but with what we've seen so far that seems unlikely.
    Isn't that just The Athletic saying that Charlton have said something, rather than an actual quote by the club? 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,197
    Talal said:
    Garrymanilow said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    Garrymanilow said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    To be fair the club have repeatedly stated that they didn't spend anything like £1m on Ahadme, but since he's had a slow start fans have latched onto it to be as critical of him as possible. Can't have it both ways, we can't be investing heavily in bad players and also not at all but our fanbase is currently trying to argue both of these things when we don't win games
    I didn’t realise the club had stated that. Where did they state it ? 
    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5743749/2024/09/07/birmingham-city-transfer-window-spend/

    Not sure if that's accessible for everyone, never sure with The Athletic, but the quote is 'Gassan Ahadme's asking price at Ipswich went up to almost £1m but Charlton say they paid considerably less in what was also an undisclosed deal.' It's possible the fee is up to £1m after certain conditions are met, we just don't know the full details, but with what we've seen so far that seems unlikely.
    Isn't that just The Athletic saying that Charlton have said something, rather than an actual quote by the club? 
    You're not going to get an official quote from the club on an undisclosed fee
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,374
    edited November 2024
    Garrymanilow said:
    Talal said:
    Garrymanilow said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    Garrymanilow said:
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    The board aren’t investing in the squad. They want us to believe they are, but ‘undisclosed’ fees are very convenient for them. Fans can then speculate on fees and that somehow becomes the truth. Coventry was ‘rumoured’ to cost £1m, turns out he was free. No way did we spend £1million on Ahadme, but that has now become ‘fact’ to some. We sold Alfie May to pay for last summer’s window. No money was invested. Until they do invest, we’ll stand still I’m afraid. 
    To be fair the club have repeatedly stated that they didn't spend anything like £1m on Ahadme, but since he's had a slow start fans have latched onto it to be as critical of him as possible. Can't have it both ways, we can't be investing heavily in bad players and also not at all but our fanbase is currently trying to argue both of these things when we don't win games
    I didn’t realise the club had stated that. Where did they state it ? 
    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5743749/2024/09/07/birmingham-city-transfer-window-spend/

    Not sure if that's accessible for everyone, never sure with The Athletic, but the quote is 'Gassan Ahadme's asking price at Ipswich went up to almost £1m but Charlton say they paid considerably less in what was also an undisclosed deal.' It's possible the fee is up to £1m after certain conditions are met, we just don't know the full details, but with what we've seen so far that seems unlikely.
    Isn't that just The Athletic saying that Charlton have said something, rather than an actual quote by the club? 
    You're not going to get an official quote from the club on an undisclosed fee
    Not doubting the validity but think perhaps "repeatedly stated" was not the right choice of words.

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