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January Transfer Window (rumours + actuals)
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i believe it’s to do with TT being very unhappy, he’s been fit and not chosen as we know but Jones has said to have ‘kept him on a back burner’… the location isn’t too far and that’s ideal for the player. I’ve since been told if the cobblers take up the option at the end of the loan, we will benefit from a bigger sum in the summer that includes part of the wages rolled up. A good connection between the two clubs which is unknown the many but way back from the Ricky Holmes deal both clubs have had a good link.
Both Hylts and L Jones have spoke to TT about Northampton and the progression of Marc Leonard has been a confidence booster.
All a bit uncertain with the finances as these are kept within close, small circles within the club.
Bolton were keen but with Randell going there the interest dropped off and Stevenage were prepared to loan but no clause at the end. This is what’s led to the cobblers landing TT which is a done deal fwiw.
Also thank god for KA!27 -
Now is the time to pounce we are crying out for a midfielder in the Randall/Collins mould.2
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I make you right. We have tolordromford said:
Eh?DavidSelnser said:i’ve heard we’re paying all of his wages for the loan …and a clause that is in their hands at the end of the season too. He’s not happy about playing time which is understandable
I don’t understand why any club would loan a player out with these agreements in place. What’s in it for the parent club? And even if he’s unhappy here, you can’t tell me getting him out the building can be worth that outlay?
manage FFP (or whatever it’s now called) it would be madness not to help that and reduce squad depth just to get an unhappy player out.On the other hand it is a rumour so there is that upside !0 -
Please a left sided CB and someone that is confident behind a front man in the next week could actually give us half a chance.12
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For all his faults though Gills puts in another decent ball today that we score from. We need one in but they have to be a big step up from him to justify it, I think a CAM is more important if I'm honestValleyGary said:Please a left sided CB and someone that is confident behind a front man in the next week could actually give us half a chance.9 -
Melrose said:Loan? Permanent i would have thought. Don't understand it really, don't think C.C. is any/much better than T.T.Some on here have short memories...The last time CC and TT were on the pitch together, was the Crawley game, after which fans were calling for Jones' head. But, even in that game, Coventry played much better as soon as Taylor was substituted.And the stats are clear. You only have to look at results, since the Crawley game, to see how much we have improved AS A TEAM.
I'm not even saying that TT is a worse player than Coventry. But it's clear that Charlton, as a TEAM, play better with Coventry in it, AND NO TAYLOR!
Sometimes managers have to make tough decisions. And the results show NJ has got this one right.
And, if Taylor is moping about the place, moaning about his lack of game time, do you think this helps with morale, and togetherness around the first team?0 -
Henry Irving said:
Heard where? @davidselnerDavidSelnser said:i’ve heard we’re paying all of his wages for the loan …and a clause that is in their hands at the end of the season too. He’s not happy about playing time which is understandable
And what does "a clause that is in their hands" mean?
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Attacking Midfielder has to be the main priority , I get they're a bit of a luxury at times out of possession but it feels like the final piece of the jigsaw along with a wide/striker option. Hopefully if the TT deal goes through today even if we're paying all his wages still some cogs can begin to turn on bringing players in.9
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Good left sided centre backs are not easy to find and because of that can be quite pricey. Would love to sign one this month but I think that is much more likely to be on the summer shopping listValleyGary said:Please a left sided CB and someone that is confident behind a front man in the next week could actually give us half a chance.1 -
Just the final pieces of the puzzle alongside a new LCB and a new GK..MarcusH26 said:Attacking Midfielder has to be the main priority , I get they're a bit of a luxury at times out of possession but it feels like the final piece of the jigsaw along with a wide/striker option. Hopefully if the TT deal goes through today even if we're paying all his wages still some cogs can begin to turn on bringing players in.0 -
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J BLOCK said:
Just the final pieces of the puzzle alongside a new LCB and a new GK..MarcusH26 said:Attacking Midfielder has to be the main priority , I get they're a bit of a luxury at times out of possession but it feels like the final piece of the jigsaw along with a wide/striker option. Hopefully if the TT deal goes through today even if we're paying all his wages still some cogs can begin to turn on bringing players in.
Don't think a quality GK would be available at this stage of the window , same with LCB - I wouldn't be surprised if we've enquired about some and been given ridiculous January prices.
Unless someone like Nathan Baxter suddenly became available....4 -
Only scenario I could see that is maybe like Chelsea loaning a youngster to League 2 for his experience. Surely never happens in the case of league 1 club to another league 1 club.lordromford said:
Eh?DavidSelnser said:i’ve heard we’re paying all of his wages for the loan …and a clause that is in their hands at the end of the season too. He’s not happy about playing time which is understandable
I don’t understand why any club would loan a player out with these agreements in place. What’s in it for the parent club? And even if he’s unhappy here, you can’t tell me getting him out the building can be worth that outlay?0 -
You look at a player like Barry Bannon who’s small, and not very athletic, but puts a massive shift in defensively. Didn’t he clear one off the line, or put in a massive last ditch block, last time he played at The Valley?MarcusH26 said:Attacking Midfielder has to be the main priority , I get they're a bit of a luxury at times out of possession but it feels like the final piece of the jigsaw along with a wide/striker option. Hopefully if the TT deal goes through today even if we're paying all his wages still some cogs can begin to turn on bringing players in.
It’s all about mentality. There’s no excuse for arseing about when out of possession at any level, you just need to work harder. The most successful teams in the Premier League work their b*ll*cks off. Obviously you can’t expect L1 players to be anything like their level, but you can expect them to put a shift in.
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Barry Bannan isn't an attacking midfielder although I do agree with the sentimentJamesSeed said:
You look at a player like Barry Bannon who’s small, and not very athletic, but puts a massive shift in defensively. Didn’t he clear one off the line, or put in a massive last ditch block, last time he played at The Valley?MarcusH26 said:Attacking Midfielder has to be the main priority , I get they're a bit of a luxury at times out of possession but it feels like the final piece of the jigsaw along with a wide/striker option. Hopefully if the TT deal goes through today even if we're paying all his wages still some cogs can begin to turn on bringing players in.
It’s all about mentality. There’s no excuse for arseing about when out of possession at any level, you just need to work harder. The most successful teams in the Premier League work their b*ll*cks off. Obviously you can’t expect L1 players to be anything like their level, but you can expect them to put a shift in.1 -
Would imagine any chance of Baxter being available has disappeared into thin air along with Evatt's employmentMarcusH26 said:J BLOCK said:
Just the final pieces of the puzzle alongside a new LCB and a new GK..MarcusH26 said:Attacking Midfielder has to be the main priority , I get they're a bit of a luxury at times out of possession but it feels like the final piece of the jigsaw along with a wide/striker option. Hopefully if the TT deal goes through today even if we're paying all his wages still some cogs can begin to turn on bringing players in.
Don't think a quality GK would be available at this stage of the window , same with LCB - I wouldn't be surprised if we've enquired about some and been given ridiculous January prices.
Unless someone like Nathan Baxter suddenly became available....2 -
James Berry at Chesterfield would be a great signing...pacey forward/winger and has a load of goals already...Recent interest from Wycombe already too.
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Looks a bit old when you Google him...?Kinsella87 said:James Berry at Chesterfield would be a great signing...pacey forward/winger and has a load of goals already...Recent interest from Wycombe already too.11 -
If we’re paying all of TT’s wages while out on loan then how would that help bring anyone in as surely the whole point of reducing the squad size is also reducing the wage bill?MarcusH26 said:Attacking Midfielder has to be the main priority , I get they're a bit of a luxury at times out of possession but it feels like the final piece of the jigsaw along with a wide/striker option. Hopefully if the TT deal goes through today even if we're paying all his wages still some cogs can begin to turn on bringing players in.
I’m also not keen on these agreements where it’s a loan with a future fee agreed, last time we did this with Blackpool for Charlie Kirk they didn’t follow through with the purchase.
I would be expecting Northampton or anyone to make a fair contribution to his wages to help us bring someone in not good old charitable Charlton at it again. After all nobody is going to loan us a first team ready player from this division for free.1 -
Former Charlton player, Last minute panic buy (so a Free Agent). Martin Waghorn fits the criteria right.MarcusH26 said:Attacking Midfielder has to be the main priority , I get they're a bit of a luxury at times out of possession but it feels like the final piece of the jigsaw along with a wide/striker option. Hopefully if the TT deal goes through today even if we're paying all his wages still some cogs can begin to turn on bringing players in.
Though I think we have too many players over 30 yrs old at the moment.0 -
We have 5 including Hylton and Potts, not that many really when we also have 5 20 yr olds and another 2 21yr oldsJustFloydRoad said:
Former Charlton player, Last minute panic buy (so a Free Agent). Martin Waghorn fits the criteria right.MarcusH26 said:Attacking Midfielder has to be the main priority , I get they're a bit of a luxury at times out of possession but it feels like the final piece of the jigsaw along with a wide/striker option. Hopefully if the TT deal goes through today even if we're paying all his wages still some cogs can begin to turn on bringing players in.
Though I think we have too many players over 30 yrs old at the moment.0 -
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Speaking of which are Potts & Hylts having their contracts extended? Radio silence on that really bar one vague response from Nath where he suggested they would be extending?fenaddick said:
We have 5 including Hylton and Potts, not that many really when we also have 5 20 yr olds and another 2 21yr oldsJustFloydRoad said:
Former Charlton player, Last minute panic buy (so a Free Agent). Martin Waghorn fits the criteria right.MarcusH26 said:Attacking Midfielder has to be the main priority , I get they're a bit of a luxury at times out of possession but it feels like the final piece of the jigsaw along with a wide/striker option. Hopefully if the TT deal goes through today even if we're paying all his wages still some cogs can begin to turn on bringing players in.
Though I think we have too many players over 30 yrs old at the moment.1 -
Well we've tried multiple Smiths, Jones and Davies before so having a couple of Berrys at the same time is the obvious next step...Kinsella87 said:James Berry at Chesterfield would be a great signing...pacey forward/winger and has a load of goals already...Recent interest from Wycombe already too.
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This is all well and good and i think we've all pretty much accepted that TT is going to leave. But surely the point of him leaving is to free up some money off the wage bill that would then enable us to put it towards a new signing?DavidSelnser said:i believe it’s to do with TT being very unhappy, he’s been fit and not chosen as we know but Jones has said to have ‘kept him on a back burner’… the location isn’t too far and that’s ideal for the player. I’ve since been told if the cobblers take up the option at the end of the loan, we will benefit from a bigger sum in the summer that includes part of the wages rolled up. A good connection between the two clubs which is unknown the many but way back from the Ricky Holmes deal both clubs have had a good link.
Both Hylts and L Jones have spoke to TT about Northampton and the progression of Marc Leonard has been a confidence booster.
All a bit uncertain with the finances as these are kept within close, small circles within the club.
Bolton were keen but with Randell going there the interest dropped off and Stevenage were prepared to loan but no clause at the end. This is what’s led to the cobblers landing TT which is a done deal fwiw.
Also thank god for KA!
If we're going to loan him out AND pay all his wages, then what is the point of loaning him out? We might as well keep him in case injuries hit and we're left short.
Also out of interest, how do we still have a good connection with Northampton because of Ricky Holmes? He joined us in 2016 and i'd be surprised if there is actually anyone left with us who was at the club back then. We pretty much have entirely different owners, different management, different club officials.9 -
Sums up my take on it very nicelysupaclive said:
A $billionaire will probably make $50m a year in interest alone if they had $1 billion on deposit. Which they won't have - however, they will earn a salary and returns in excess of $50m a year just by doing nothing and working their old 9 to 5 job.....eaststandmike said:
I don’t see it as the investors being conned, there are multiple investors spreading the cost, if they really are worth what people say they are then the money they are putting into Charlton is like you and I buying a scratch cardcabbles said:
We were also told on here that this lot (the owners) mean business.eaststandmike said:
I can’t remember who it was but I was told “WREXHAM WILL NOT FINISH ABOVE US, FACT”sam3110 said:
Lol is that the same Wrexham that in the summer you kept banging on about how they won't sign anyone and won't amount to anything this season? Remind me where they are in the table?MintoHumbugs said:
Wrexham are being being linked with lots of players for decent money they again won’t signNabySarr said:
Huddersfield and Bolton are both spending money from players they’ve sold. Is anyone actually spending decent money this month?Croydon said:Redhenry said:Unless there is more investment from the owners we are stuck here for the foreseeable future. IMHO
Teams in the mix are all spending money and our CEO is on podcasts wafflng about spending rules that don't take effect until next season.
Thats going wellI don’t have an issue with their strategy if it is as Sage outlined above, after all, it’s their money and we cannot dictate how we wished it to be spent however much we want to.The problem is their strategy is full of holes if it is the one Sage shared, because it comes across as very hit and hope, banking on churning out youngsters of a sufficient quality to be sold on. We’ve had a few over the years, but I would hardly describe us as the next Ajax. And because the Burstows/Leaburn’s etc have been less frequent, it means that whatever fee we do get, is likely just covering mounting losses. It’s a vicious circle. For it to work, we’d likely have to turn over 5/6 very good youngsters across 2 seasons max.One every 2 seasons doesn’t even cover losses, and in between, the team get weaker and weaker and we are less likely to get out of league one the right way
you have to question how these billionaires got conned by Methven etc on the whole purchase - very naive
So them lumping in £2-3m each for our annual losses is jack shit to them. However, if it looks after 3 years that we are no closer to actually reaching the promised land, they'll either walk away as they won't care or they'll fire the SMT and sort out new SMT
I would hazard.
In the meantime, CM, JR, AS et al will all be pulling in very nice salaries for underachieving1 -
YannTheMann said:
Speaking of which are Potts & Hylts having their contracts extended? Radio silence on that really bar one vague response from Nath where he suggested they would be extending?fenaddick said:
We have 5 including Hylton and Potts, not that many really when we also have 5 20 yr olds and another 2 21yr oldsJustFloydRoad said:
Former Charlton player, Last minute panic buy (so a Free Agent). Martin Waghorn fits the criteria right.MarcusH26 said:Attacking Midfielder has to be the main priority , I get they're a bit of a luxury at times out of possession but it feels like the final piece of the jigsaw along with a wide/striker option. Hopefully if the TT deal goes through today even if we're paying all his wages still some cogs can begin to turn on bringing players in.
Though I think we have too many players over 30 yrs old at the moment.
No rush I suppose as end of teh month and it may depend on who we can get in. If budget not used can get the deals done at the end. Cant see a rush of otehr teams comiing in.
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More Potts than Hylton. It was my understanding Hylton is on a work experience coach role and pay as you play player (more coach than player).YannTheMann said:
Speaking of which are Potts & Hylts having their contracts extended? Radio silence on that really bar one vague response from Nath where he suggested they would be extending?fenaddick said:
We have 5 including Hylton and Potts, not that many really when we also have 5 20 yr olds and another 2 21yr oldsJustFloydRoad said:
Former Charlton player, Last minute panic buy (so a Free Agent). Martin Waghorn fits the criteria right.MarcusH26 said:Attacking Midfielder has to be the main priority , I get they're a bit of a luxury at times out of possession but it feels like the final piece of the jigsaw along with a wide/striker option. Hopefully if the TT deal goes through today even if we're paying all his wages still some cogs can begin to turn on bringing players in.
Though I think we have too many players over 30 yrs old at the moment.
Potts was signed until early January, now we are in late January. (might extend if we cannot get a decent full back for cover).0 -
I'm not doubting that the poster heard what he did, but that doesn't make it true. I really doubt we will be paying 100% of TT's wages. He's a decent player and is rated at this level, there will be a few clubs happy to take and pay him.3
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Isn't Potts a left footed centre back? In which case he's competition/replacement for Gillesphey. Problem is his recent injury record reads like Chuks.JustFloydRoad said:
More Potts than Hylton. It was my understanding Hylton is on a work experience coach role and pay as you play player (more coach than player).YannTheMann said:
Speaking of which are Potts & Hylts having their contracts extended? Radio silence on that really bar one vague response from Nath where he suggested they would be extending?fenaddick said:
We have 5 including Hylton and Potts, not that many really when we also have 5 20 yr olds and another 2 21yr oldsJustFloydRoad said:
Former Charlton player, Last minute panic buy (so a Free Agent). Martin Waghorn fits the criteria right.MarcusH26 said:Attacking Midfielder has to be the main priority , I get they're a bit of a luxury at times out of possession but it feels like the final piece of the jigsaw along with a wide/striker option. Hopefully if the TT deal goes through today even if we're paying all his wages still some cogs can begin to turn on bringing players in.
Though I think we have too many players over 30 yrs old at the moment.
Potts was signed until early January, now we are in late January. (might extend if we cannot get a decent full back for cover).0 -
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Potts isn't the answer. Decent player but he's made of balsa woodEast Kent Addick said:
Isn't Potts a left footed centre back? In which case he's competition/replacement for Gillesphey. Problem is his recent injury record reads like Chuks.JustFloydRoad said:
More Potts than Hylton. It was my understanding Hylton is on a work experience coach role and pay as you play player (more coach than player).YannTheMann said:
Speaking of which are Potts & Hylts having their contracts extended? Radio silence on that really bar one vague response from Nath where he suggested they would be extending?fenaddick said:
We have 5 including Hylton and Potts, not that many really when we also have 5 20 yr olds and another 2 21yr oldsJustFloydRoad said:
Former Charlton player, Last minute panic buy (so a Free Agent). Martin Waghorn fits the criteria right.MarcusH26 said:Attacking Midfielder has to be the main priority , I get they're a bit of a luxury at times out of possession but it feels like the final piece of the jigsaw along with a wide/striker option. Hopefully if the TT deal goes through today even if we're paying all his wages still some cogs can begin to turn on bringing players in.
Though I think we have too many players over 30 yrs old at the moment.
Potts was signed until early January, now we are in late January. (might extend if we cannot get a decent full back for cover).4
