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  • A weird inconsistency with England's attitude to spin in red and white ball cricket. In red ball cricket, we've thrown kids in at the deep end - Bashir is still only 21 - whereas in this white ball tour, and for our CT squad, we haven't tried them at all. 
    I think it's because we know that anyone we play in the Champions Trophy will get slaughtered and the hope is that a four pronged seam attack plus Rashid will be better. As for red ball, the reason we are having to experiment is because we have very limited options and the only place that our selected youngster is going to learn is in Test cricket. The current one is third choice behind Leach and Vaughan. 
    What's the point of having Rehan there if he doesn't get a single game? It's not as if the likes of Overton and Atkinson have looked at all effective. Bizarre to go to the CT with no backup for Rashid, it's being played in Pakistan and the UAE, not Headingley.

    I'm surprised they've not gambled on Jafar Chohan as backup. Took him to the West Indies but nothing else since. 
  • What an absolutely pathetic no show from England in this Series. The batting has been really poor. The bowling hasn’t been much better.
  • Another defeat. Our results this tour:

    T20 Series:
    India won by 7 wickets with 43 balls remaining
    India won by 2 wickets with 2 balls remaining
    England won by 26 runs
    India won by 15 runs
    India won by 150 runs

    ODI Series:
    India won by 4 wickets with 68 balls remaining
    India won by 4 wickets with 33 balls remaining
    India won by 142 runs

    All that doesn't matter because we're going to win the Champions Trophy (for golf and drinking that is)

  • There's no sense of a team improving and building towards the CT. You'd have thought they have the next 2 months off now, the way things tailed off.
  • England's best individual score on the tour was 69. That's quite impressive for a golfer. 
  • KP talking a lot of sense when it comes to practice. Yes they want to make playing for England "fun" but their attitude to practice and nets just doesn't work in alien conditions.

    At home they know the conditions, so it makes sense to relax between Tests, but here they're all at sea, and there's no sign of improvement against spin over the course of this pitiful while ball series. It's slog or wicket for too many of them.
    It's that rotation against spin that is missing which is something that kids 14 year old kids work on in county age group sessions. It's so arrogant to think, on a different surface, that you can just walk out onto the pitch and ignore that ability to turn the strike over. Who is best at doing that in our side? Root - the only one that did have a net. 
  • In response to what the learnings were from the tour Buttler said "the learnings were the way that we want to play our cricket and the style of cricket that we want to execute is the right one so individually and collectively we need to learn to play that style better". That is the one size, fits all, Bazball approach that we've heard so many times delivered by Stokes. It will will win us games but the likelihood is that it will lose us as many as we win. 
  • In response to what the learnings were from the tour Buttler said "the learnings were the way that we want to play our cricket and the style of cricket that we want to execute is the right one so individually and collectively we need to learn to play that style better". That is the one size, fits all, Bazball approach that we've heard so many times delivered by Stokes. It will will win us games but the likelihood is that it will lose us as many as we win. 
    Which is nonsense, as there's no evidence that it's just down to poor execution. 
  • Buttler fudged the question as to whether or not England trained. The ECB have said that England trained before the first ODI but, "due to travel commitments and a desire to keep the players fresh" they didn't do so before either the second or third ODIs. I hope that they weren't so frazzled that they couldn't play golf yesterday.   
  • In response to what the learnings were from the tour Buttler said "the learnings were the way that we want to play our cricket and the style of cricket that we want to execute is the right one so individually and collectively we need to learn to play that style better". That is the one size, fits all, Bazball approach that we've heard so many times delivered by Stokes. It will will win us games but the likelihood is that it will lose us as many as we win. 
    I would argue that we would lose more than we win.Bazball was a novelty at first but it's now an unnuanced, transparent strategy. The opposition can prepare accordingly before a ball is bowled.By the way Buttler is no skipper. 
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  • Next “who is he “  pick for England ? 

    Sonny Baker has been awarded an England Men’s Development Contract 

    The 21-year-old caught the attention of the England Men’s High-Performance staff team following a successful winter 
  • Next “who is he “  pick for England ? 

    Sonny Baker has been awarded an England Men’s Development Contract 

    The 21-year-old caught the attention of the England Men’s High-Performance staff team following a successful winter 

    Somerset seamer with 1 FC appearance. Even for the Key era it's an odd one. 
  • Must be tall 
  • MarcusH26 said:
    Next “who is he “  pick for England ? 

    Sonny Baker has been awarded an England Men’s Development Contract 

    The 21-year-old caught the attention of the England Men’s High-Performance staff team following a successful winter 

    Somerset seamer with 1 FC appearance. Even for the Key era it's an odd one. 
    Poached by Hampshire last summer.
  • MarcusH26 said:
    Next “who is he “  pick for England ? 

    Sonny Baker has been awarded an England Men’s Development Contract 

    The 21-year-old caught the attention of the England Men’s High-Performance staff team following a successful winter 

    Somerset seamer with 1 FC appearance. Even for the Key era it's an odd one. 
    Poached by Hampshire last summer.

    Oh didn't know he was now on Hampshires books , that makes more sense! Given they haven't got Mohammed Abbas to lead their attack this season. 
  • India at home can win from losing positions. 
  • edited February 14
    Baker went to King's College in Somerest (the same school as Jos Buttler, Tom Banton, Will Smeed and Calvin Harrison) which every year holds, throughout the summer, weekly county age group competitions for 11-14 year olds. It helps having six pitches to be able to host those. 
  • Here we go.

  • Here we go.

    A dedicated thread for the comp and our matches:

    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/99452/champions-trophy-2025#latest
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