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British Gas raising prices this winter.
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Seems to me the energy industry have done a good job of deflecting criticism back on the government.
Personally i simplify the whole debate to a simple question:
Are the energy companies making a profit?0 -
^^^boomjohnny73 said:Seems to me the energy industry have done a good job of deflecting criticism back on the government.
Personally i simplify the whole debate to a simple question:
Are the energy companies making a profit?
But oh no it MUST be the Green Lobby, with their trying-to-reduce-carbon-emissions world-saving lust for full fascism and eugenics! THEY'RE the ones FORCING the energy companies to put up their prices what with their TERRIBLE DEMANDS that these companies provide a greener service AND STILL have the free-market rein to increase their turnover! They're the ones FORCING these companies to invest in increasingly cheaper green technology and yet still blame this technology for their latest in-no-way-greedy price hikes! HITLER WAS A VEGETARIAN0 -
If the Green Lobby are guilty of one thing, it's that they're usually shills for the green energy dollar - plenty of money in green energy research, some pretty big sustainable energy corporations getting into the game. Better them than BP, frankly, although how much profit they'd expect to make is something of an unknown at this point0
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because in the fluffy green world, higher prices to pay for wind farms, solar panels and wave power are a myth.
So a quick quiz that most people should be able to answer............
do we pay more for our energy because of green taxes, yes or no?
would it mean cheaper bills if we burnt more coal?
is fracking for gas cheaper than wind energy leading to lower bills, less freezing pensioners?
Please feel free to avoid these questions if you find them a bit tricky, but a yes/no answer would be fine.0 -
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I heard yesterday that taking inflation into account, gas prices have doubled in the last 10 years!
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Sounds like you're caught up in scene from a 70's porn film to me.Henry Irving said:
You say that but the main who reads my meter has a toothbrush moustache and an Austrian accent.charltonkeston said:May be it is only down to BG wanting to preserve their profit margins and nothing to do with Hitler.
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quality 2 pages of crap with the best comment ValliantPhil about Stephen Dawking, oops Sorry Hawking0
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Can anyone please explain why we are apparently 'lagging' behind so much?
The following link= EU countries renewables targets for 2020.
http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/statistics_explained/index.php?title=File:T_RENEWABLES_RES_2011.png&filetimestamp=201310141402370 -
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Did it work out much of a monthly / annual save mate ?Covered End said:I switched yesterday (applied via moneysupermarket) to Scottish Power. A fixed deal until 31/3/15.
It doesn't take long. Name, address etc, power usage & that's about it. Then choose your deal & click on submit.
How do you work out your usage ?0 -
Look back at your last actual read bill and then take a meter read. divide by the number of days and then x 365.AFKABartram said:
Did it work out much of a monthly / annual save mate ?Covered End said:I switched yesterday (applied via moneysupermarket) to Scottish Power. A fixed deal until 31/3/15.
It doesn't take long. Name, address etc, power usage & that's about it. Then choose your deal & click on submit.
How do you work out your usage ?0 -
AFKA, get on uswitch.com, plug in your figures from the latest bill (ie) what you spend per month on your leccy and gas by DD and then uswitch will recommend the best deals and what you'll save.
I done it last night and switched to EDF from British Gas. Would have saved £12pm on what I was paying and fixing til March 2014 or pay a little bit more but still saving £5pm by fixing til March 2017. Only takes 10-15 mins at the most.0 -
Hopefully, for their shareholders, they are.johnny73 said:Seems to me the energy industry have done a good job of deflecting criticism back on the government.
Personally i simplify the whole debate to a simple question:
Are the energy companies making a profit?0 -
Keep on keeping on Len
"labour party pledge" ------------oxymoron0 -
Lagging helps to keep the heat in your pipes and reduces your bills. You can do it in front, above and below too if you like.stilladdicted said:Can anyone please explain why we are apparently 'lagging' behind so much?
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It really is easy to start the process. I logged into National Power directly (which is the one moneysupermarket.com was cheapest for me. It is hopefully going through at the moment and fixed to sometime in 2014. You could fix for longer but prices would be higher. This is supposedly going to save me £200 per year even before the new price rises. Current supplier is EDF and on back page they show your annual consumption in kw. This is the best way to review as a whole year is better than any seasonal quarter (I think all power companies are supposed to do it but not sure)
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The biggest way to reduce energy prices in this country would be to allow FRACKING. I believe wholesale gas prices in US where it is being done are about a quarter of what they are in the rest of the world. This is also of enormous benefit to industry and will help US economy in forthcoming years enormously. No end of expensive wind farms can commercially compete with this.
I'm not saying we should do it but we must accept we can't have it both ways.0 -
I have no idea if fracking would be a good idea so in these situations I always ask myself
"What would Darwin had done?"
Unfortunately as the answer is walk about his garden a lot and then delay publishing the most important book of the past two centuries for decades this doesn't really help much.
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Fracking will make a huge difference to prices, though not for quite a while.
Opposition to it is generally disinegnous, especially amongst Greens. They oppose it because it is a greenhouse gas but throw in a lot of discredited claims about pollution of the water table etc to mobilise local opposition.
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Fracking is a good idea but anyone who thinks it will give us cheap gas is bonkers. We will be charged marginally less than for the gas we currently use. We are not allowed cheap anything.0
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The Royal society actually conducted a thorough review of all of the literature related to fracking, and found that it isn't unduly harmful to the environment. worth a read:
http://royalsociety.org/uploadedFiles/Royal_Society_Content/policy/projects/shale-gas/2012-06-28-Shale-gas.pdf0 -
Henry Irving said:
I have no idea if fracking would be a good idea so in these situations I always ask myself
"What would Darwin had done?"
Unfortunately as the answer is walk about his garden a lot and then delay publishing the most important book of the past two centuries for decades this doesn't really help much.
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Hayek's "The Road To Serfdom" for me.......closely followed by De Botton's "How Proust Can Change Your Life" ;o)0 -
Can someone let me know at what stage the energy company profit goes from 'profit' to 'obscene profit'?0
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PeanutsMolloy said:Henry Irving said:
I have no idea if fracking would be a good idea so in these situations I always ask myself
"What would Darwin had done?"
Unfortunately as the answer is walk about his garden a lot and then delay publishing the most important book of the past two centuries for decades this doesn't really help much.
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Hayek's "The Road To Serfdom" for me.......closely followed by De Botton's "How Proust Can Change Your Life" ;o)
But Darwin re-invented the way we see the world and ourselves and all from a house in Bromley. So important is he that 132 years after his death the fundamentalist Creationists in the US and elsewhere still hate him, fear him and try to smear him.
And surely you should be reading Shoeless Joe Jackson come to Iowa : - )0 -
To be entirely plain, I get all my energy from Ecotricity, which is an entirely-sustainable energy company.
My energy bills are far, far smaller than they used to be.
Shows what can be achieved with a company that doesn't seek to make exorbitant profits and pay multimillion dollar bonuses to its executives.
And I live in Charlton.
JUST SAYING, LIKE.0 -
They hate everyone, that's no recommendation. Doesn't make him (more particularly, those that choose to cite him for their own purposes) 100% right either, by the way.
Actually I'm getting in a nostalgic mood re-reading "One Last Strike: Fifty Years in Baseball, Ten and a Half Games Back, and One Final Championship Season" by the greatest MLB manager that ever lived.0 -
That's now on the Xmas wish list.
Yes, they hate everyone but they really hate him cos he proved them wrong.0 -
Try EF Schumacher's "A Guide For The Perplexed". You'll be a new man Henry.Henry Irving said:That's now on the Xmas wish list.
Yes, they hate everyone but they really hate him cos he proved them wrong.0 -
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Henry Irving said:
That's now on the Xmas wish list.
Yes, they hate everyone but they really hate him cos he proved them wrong.
Try EF Schumacher's "A Guide For The Perplexed". You'll be a new man Henry.
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And, you give us the Grand National winner most years, Peanuts.
I doff my hat to you sir.0
