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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Excellent pass from him for the first too.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126

    I remember Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard struggled to break into the England midfield at a young age...

    Jonjo can get into the team as his passes can make things happen (two assists and a goal today)... Just needs to be patient and work hard as there is a lot of young talent (including a Defensive Midfielder who isnt that bad back at Charlton) fighting for those Midfield positions

    Pretty sure Gerrard was playing regularly for England at 21.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,260
    Lallana, Barkley, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Wilshere all infront of him in the pecking order, as are Gerrard, Lampard, Carrick and Cleverly, don't think he'll make as many England appearances as many on here hope he will, he has come into the world at a time where central midfielders are in plentiful supply
  • Amos on the wing
    Amos on the wing Posts: 1,802
    edited April 2014
    What a goal. Such great technique to bring the ball down on his chest shifting the ball onto his right foot. The most naturally talented footballer I have seen come through the youth ranks at Charlton. Didn't have the instant impact on a Charlton side for a youngster like Bowyer and others that could be mentioned but nevertheless a player with all the talent to go as far in the game as he wants to.
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,783
    Looking at the side angle, I thought it was a pretty good goal, but keeper could've done better. Seeing it from behind and seeing the way the ball curled in the air changes my opinion to great goal which most keepers would have struggled with..............
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,917

    shine166 said:

    People always forget he's only 22. Guy is absolutely quality, just a bit inconsistent. His pass for bonys goal was fantastic as well. Liverpool move came too early for him, but I think he's going to go to a big big club again.

    Alan Hansen and Robbie savage trying to brush it under the carpet and say it was guznan's mistake and "rooneys was better" (pahahahaha). What keeper expects the ball to come straight back, 50 yards away and to go into the top corner?!

    Rooney's was better. Doesn't mean this one wasn't a fantastic goal.
    LOL really?! shelvey's was impossible to stop even if guznan was in the "correct" position. Rooney's he could've saved pretty easily if he was in the "correct" position.
    cracking goal, but agree rooneys was better, his was under a bit more pressure and shelveys was not near his own half.

    Top player though, should have never gone to Liverpool, should have learnt from Parker, take it one step at a time, but his head was turned and it cost him a couple of years.
    Er, Parker was surely not the best example ? Was he not out the door first time a big club came in ? ...which cost him reaching full potential
    Made him a bucket load of dough
    Good for him, when he has been retired for a decade it may be something he regrets.

  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,032
    shine166 said:

    shine166 said:

    People always forget he's only 22. Guy is absolutely quality, just a bit inconsistent. His pass for bonys goal was fantastic as well. Liverpool move came too early for him, but I think he's going to go to a big big club again.

    Alan Hansen and Robbie savage trying to brush it under the carpet and say it was guznan's mistake and "rooneys was better" (pahahahaha). What keeper expects the ball to come straight back, 50 yards away and to go into the top corner?!

    Rooney's was better. Doesn't mean this one wasn't a fantastic goal.
    LOL really?! shelvey's was impossible to stop even if guznan was in the "correct" position. Rooney's he could've saved pretty easily if he was in the "correct" position.
    cracking goal, but agree rooneys was better, his was under a bit more pressure and shelveys was not near his own half.

    Top player though, should have never gone to Liverpool, should have learnt from Parker, take it one step at a time, but his head was turned and it cost him a couple of years.
    Er, Parker was surely not the best example ? Was he not out the door first time a big club came in ? ...which cost him reaching full potential
    Made him a bucket load of dough
    Good for him, when he has been retired for a decade it may be something he regrets.

    Would swap my bank balance for his, although not necessarily his loyalty values!
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729

    People always forget he's only 22. Guy is absolutely quality, just a bit inconsistent. His pass for bonys goal was fantastic as well. Liverpool move came too early for him, but I think he's going to go to a big big club again.

    Alan Hansen and Robbie savage trying to brush it under the carpet and say it was guznan's mistake and "rooneys was better" (pahahahaha). What keeper expects the ball to come straight back, 50 yards away and to go into the top corner?!

    Rooney's was better. Doesn't mean this one wasn't a fantastic goal.
    LOL really?! shelvey's was impossible to stop even if guznan was in the "correct" position. Rooney's he could've saved pretty easily if he was in the "correct" position.
    cracking goal, but agree rooneys was better, his was under a bit more pressure and shelveys was not near his own half.

    Top player though, should have never gone to Liverpool, should have learnt from Parker, take it one step at a time, but his head was turned and it cost him a couple of years.
    tbh jonjo stayed a lot longer than he perhaps should for the level of talent he has and the number of times he was playing and the kind of football we were playing under parky. We were also very very skint at that time. Imagine a team with jonjo, jenkinson, solly, poyet, and cousins led by an aging parker...
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,917

    shine166 said:

    shine166 said:

    People always forget he's only 22. Guy is absolutely quality, just a bit inconsistent. His pass for bonys goal was fantastic as well. Liverpool move came too early for him, but I think he's going to go to a big big club again.

    Alan Hansen and Robbie savage trying to brush it under the carpet and say it was guznan's mistake and "rooneys was better" (pahahahaha). What keeper expects the ball to come straight back, 50 yards away and to go into the top corner?!

    Rooney's was better. Doesn't mean this one wasn't a fantastic goal.
    LOL really?! shelvey's was impossible to stop even if guznan was in the "correct" position. Rooney's he could've saved pretty easily if he was in the "correct" position.
    cracking goal, but agree rooneys was better, his was under a bit more pressure and shelveys was not near his own half.

    Top player though, should have never gone to Liverpool, should have learnt from Parker, take it one step at a time, but his head was turned and it cost him a couple of years.
    Er, Parker was surely not the best example ? Was he not out the door first time a big club came in ? ...which cost him reaching full potential
    Made him a bucket load of dough
    Good for him, when he has been retired for a decade it may be something he regrets.

    Would swap my bank balance for his, although not necessarily his loyalty values!

    Haha deffinitely ! Footballers have a short career, for me it's a crime to sacrifice half of that for money... Especially as he would have ended up at a top 4 club anyway at some point

  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    Pure tekkers.

    What was the celebration about?
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  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,563
    To be honest the real showcase of his skill was that pass, that vision and execution would be worth it's weight in gold.

    Be interested in Uncles view on his time at Liverpool . I am fairly sure it enhanced him in a way we could never have achieved
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,917
    I'm sure the brief spell at Liverpool did no harm at all, getting out relatively quick was a great decision too.
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,855
    Wouldn't waste your breath with dowman @uncle!
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,048
    A cracking game yesterday, the pass to Bony was sublime and the goal was superb technique. Wish Jonjo had been given the game time that Diego & Jordan are enjoying with us now, but it didn't happen with Parky & the move was a very good one for him. I still think we were short-changed, but we weren't in any financial position to argue.

    Always pleased to see him doing well.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,223
    Poyet and Shelvey together in CM would be unreal
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    CAFCsayer said:

    Poyet and Shelvey together in CM would be unreal

    It would certainly make for a better average-hair statistic
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    Shelvey's was better as it was on the volley
  • liverpool move probably helped him in fairness. whilst we may have wished he stay with us he has become a better player for it and knows the pressure of a big club now from a young age. he probably moved to swansea to try and get the regualr games he needs to go even further. if he wants to be an england regular in the future he has to be a key player for a premier league side. i wouldnt say he is yet. however he could really blossom at swansea and next season he could be even better. unless swansea become top ten regulars he should consider moving in a year or two to enhacne himself again.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    Shelvey's was better as it was on the volley

    no it wasn't, half-volley. Too close to compare imo, both cracking goals.
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  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,521

    People always forget he's only 22. Guy is absolutely quality, just a bit inconsistent. His pass for bonys goal was fantastic as well. Liverpool move came too early for him, but I think he's going to go to a big big club again.

    Alan Hansen and Robbie savage trying to brush it under the carpet and say it was guznan's mistake and "rooneys was better" (pahahahaha). What keeper expects the ball to come straight back, 50 yards away and to go into the top corner?!

    Rooney's was better. Doesn't mean this one wasn't a fantastic goal.
    LOL really?! shelvey's was impossible to stop even if guznan was in the "correct" position. Rooney's he could've saved pretty easily if he was in the "correct" position.
    cracking goal, but agree rooneys was better, his was under a bit more pressure and shelveys was not near his own half.

    Top player though, should have never gone to Liverpool, should have learnt from Parker, take it one step at a time, but his head was turned and it cost him a couple of years.
    tbh jonjo stayed a lot longer than he perhaps should for the level of talent he has and the number of times he was playing and the kind of football we were playing under parky. We were also very very skint at that time. Imagine a team with jonjo, jenkinson, solly, poyet, and cousins led by an aging parker...
    Would worry that team would be a bit unbalanced, with two right backs and four central midfielders ;-)
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    CAFCsayer said:

    Poyet and Shelvey together in CM would be unreal

    Imagine Poyet and Cousins holding behind a roaming Shelvey with Scott Parker on one wing and Rob Lee on the other. Put Jermaine Defoe up top with Richard Rufus and Joe Gomez in defence.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,223

    CAFCsayer said:

    Poyet and Shelvey together in CM would be unreal

    with Scott Parker on one wing
    Powelly, is that you!?

  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,849
    edited April 2014
    With Cousins on one wing.

    Riga is that you?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Linked with Newcastle today. H'ed be mad to go there.
  • Addicted
    Addicted Posts: 2,804
    Outstanding goal, really pleased for him as ex-charlton and generally a seemingly humble guy. Currently he's mid-prem quality for me, at the right club, and would do well at an Everton maybe in a year or two after playing every game and continuing to improve.

    England call up is a bit of knee jerk reaction to a very special goal but who knows what could happen over the next 2 years.
  • Jonjo's goal is better than rooney's IMO. More deliberate, less of a swinger. It went in top corner as well otherwise Guzan would have got to it

    2.5 assists as well if you count the cross for the penno as a half.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,563
    I would hope jonjo next move would be a top 6 club, I think he is the sort of player wenger needs, although he may not want.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    edited April 2014
    Kap10 said:

    I would hope jonjo next move would be a top 6 club, I think he is the sort of player wenger needs, although he may not want.

    Pardew wants him according to Football Gossip on the BBC.

    One hopes he'll have more sense!

    EDIT: Already mentioned above by Red Robin so ignore.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,563
    LenGlover said:

    Kap10 said:

    I would hope jonjo next move would be a top 6 club, I think he is the sort of player wenger needs, although he may not want.

    Pardew wants him according to Football Gossip on the BBC.

    One hopes he'll have more sense!

    EDIT: Already mentioned above by Red Robin so ignore.
    Why would anyone in their right mind go to Newcastle whose chairman does not want them to win things because it will cost too much.

    Pardew may want him but hopefully he won't reciprocate and let's face it come august Pardew may not be there. Jonjo has had 5 managers since he left us so could do with some stability.