Traffic chaos in Kent

Don't be silly gaz we need to embrace and assist them so they can contribute back to the economy, what's the big deal, I mean how much is a hotel for a few weeks and I mean houses are for sale in certain parts of Liverpool for 50p what's the harm in that,

Then they can pay me back the money I lost this year themselves renting out the rooms to others who bunk in on the back of a lorry

It's a win win

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Fiiish said:

Red_in_SE8 said:

Fiiish said:

It does wonderfully help the arguments of those on the Press Influence thread who agree that people are too easily influenced by newspapers.

Not read any of that thread but that is a truly astounding comment from someone who is always posting links to right wing newspaper sites , political blog sites and right wing media commentators in an effort to establish credibility for a very narrow ideological view of the world. Beyond parody.

If I ever post a link (probably once every 50 posts at most), half the time it is from the Guardian. Walk on sunshine. Also, you might want to look up the definition of parody before using it.

"Pompous twat" in 5,4,3...

How long before another pathetic attention seeking post in the argument thread!

Fiiish said:

Charlton Life - where a discussion on traffic problems in Kent eventually becomes a tirade against Tories, Etonians and Bankers, like nearly every other thread on here.

Why on earth could that be?

Yep, £36 per family member a week for food and clothing.

ValleyGary said:

My missus works for housing department within Bexley council and said today they received information from the Home office that a large number of asylum seekers have been placed in Sidcup Travelodge! Once that runs out its down to Bexley council to house them. Thats Bexley council, that have such a home shortage that they are having to put families in need up in Manchester until property becomes available!!!

And here they are. Along with around 30 others.

nth london addick said:

Just popping in from the #bestthreadonlifethankstorogib


Have I missed anything

I was merely summing up the fiiish vs red in se8 rivalry starting up again and kent red's previous few posts which upon reflection Nth, you've prob already seen. Sorry for raising your hopes.

I will buy them some fencing and put it up on that road so they can storm it, might even cause a traffic jam and then they can have some fun

ValleyGary said:

ValleyGary said:

My missus works for housing department within Bexley council and said today they received information from the Home office that a large number of asylum seekers have been placed in Sidcup Travelodge! Once that runs out its down to Bexley council to house them. Thats Bexley council, that have such a home shortage that they are having to put families in need up in Manchester until property becomes available!!!

And here they are. Along with around 30 others.

There's a cracked paving slab there. Quick hang a banker, it's bound to be his fault!

:-)

ValleyGary said:

Yep, £36 per family member a week for food and clothing.

Plus the £5 per day subsidence for "toiletries" so £71 a week, £284 a month with free accommodation and 3 meals a day plus extra payments if you have children or pregnant. There is also a £300 maternity payment if you are due in 6 weeks or your baby is under 8 weeks old. Free healthcare, free medicine prescriptions, free dental care and free eye tests just incase you want to do the works.No council tax or bills to pay. I wish I had £284 disposable income to do what the fecking hell I want with it!!

But fear not because after the new landlord bill being passed through all the problems will be sorted. Threatening to jail landlords for housing immigrants is going to stop them all trying to get through at Calais and make them go elsewhere isn't it. I can just see it now, word being passed around the camps that if they make it to the land of the free handouts them poor landlords will be jailed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33754595

So they are now moving some of the problems to manston so that's more roads fcked and gridlocked. Has anyone been down the country lanes surrounding the airport recently? It's not great at the best of times so this is a disaster waiting to happen. A short term fix with this government says it all and they actually have no real idea what the bloody hell is going on. Expect this to be still going on in a years time then.

Thank you NLA for the true insight into what is really happening. Please keep us informed with the goings on but take it easy out there.

nth london addick said:

So if we let all 5000 in via the tunnel, then it will only cost


£28080000 over the 3 years value for money right there, as they could easily pau that back in tax once we have educated them and assisted them

That is a tiny tiny fraction of the £850 billion the banking bail out has reportedly cost the UK tax payer.

What you just posted is that really true I can't believe that that is what we offer to them,

Is that for asylum seekers that have applied and been deemed to fit the criteria required

Or is that what you get if you illegally enter the country and then seek help

I am hoping that by 31st October when the milano expo finishes it's settled down, and I am only looking to do the shows in holland and Belgium up to then unless anyone who seeks our services to activate in France or Italy at festivals or trade shows accepts that any delays will be charged to them on a per man and per day and vehicle for anything over 6hrs, we won't be risking it and it's something that could seriously impact us in the future as we would have allowed competitiors take our place

https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

Nla have alook on the governments site. Refused or accepted asylum doesn't really seem to matter as you get the money and housing either way. Crazy system ain't it?

Too easy to attack, everyone is well versed in the arguments. We all know unregulated financial adventurism caused the problem. However vested interest and parochialism mean that the process of othering can flourish. Individual gain has been inculcated since the 1980's and it's the current credo. Even those that are unproductive feel entitled to demonise outsiders rather than address the problems caused by the familiar. The real sadness lays in that generationally our successors will have it harder than us. That's almost counter intuitive but technology that removes the need for our skills and poverty that drives others to risk their lives to come and work serving us will create a real conundrum for my children's generation.
On the basis that synthetic boundaries remain for our lifetimes and beyond the problem will never be solved. So Red accept that the majority of the population when push comes to shove couldn't give a toss about drowning migrants as long as they can get to Bluewater when they need a pick me up or find a workable solution that allows the global poor to service an indolent society in return for their payment for the privilege.

Red_in_SE8 said:

nth london addick said:

So if we let all 5000 in via the tunnel, then it will only cost


£28080000 over the 3 years value for money right there, as they could easily pau that back in tax once we have educated them and assisted them

That is a tiny tiny fraction of the £850 billion the banking bail out has reportedly cost the UK tax payer.

FFS stop changing the subject to suit your political point of view.

Remind me which Government bailed out the Banks?

I work fucking hard to provide for my family, yet I still have to check on an almost daily basis to make sure I can afford to continue doing what little I do outside of paying my monthly bills.

And yes, I resent that so much of the £1400 I paid in income tax last month goes to assist 'asylum seekers' when I could help my kids and step kids so much more. They're my priority, not the hundreds of economic migrants camping in Calais.

Selfish? Maybe. But I know where my priorities lay.