Olympic Stadium - Please sign the NEW PETITION
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10,000!4
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It's now hit 10k! Great effort...1
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Fantastic!! Only another 90,000 to go! Well done all.1
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I think we won't need an inquiry to uncover the dirt. Some serious journalists are all over it now, including the two Mail journalists who nailed the murderers of Steven Lawrence when the law and other processes didn't.GermanEastEnder said:AsI said, good luck with it. As you well know a lot of West Ham fans are up in arms over having to move from the Boleyn. I very much doubt though that club owners oeverall would care too much about fans not liking a business decision on behalf of the club.
if Spurs had got a deal that was favourabel enough for them they would have moved to the OS, no matter if the fans had liked that or not. I think football fans sometimes overestimate their power to influence club decisions.
They can of course always vote with their feet, stop going to games, stop buying merchandise and the like.
And once again: The OS wasn't built for West Ham, it was built and served its purpose with hosting the Olympic Games. The decision to maintain an athletics legacy and raising further regular income from converting the OS to a multi purpose stadium made a football tenant very much necessary.
The government decided they wanted to keep the OS going. And there weren't too many suitable parties around to submit financially viable bids. That's why West Ham were in a decent negotiating position and that's why they could get a good deal. The LLDC had to make the best of crap circumstances caused by bad decisions from people the media seem to be reluctant talking about.
I very much doubt an enquiry will reveal the big conspiracy you might be looking for.
You've been civil and articulate. Quite ironic that it takes a German Hammer to show the rest of them how to conduct the argument properly.4 -
"Interestingly the Lions Trust from local rivals Millwall do not to appear to have backed the call for a public enquiry"The Red Robin said:The latest West Ham argument. Doesn't sound like they're too keen on you PA... http://www.claretandhugh.info/taxpayer-would-lose-out-from-a-public-enquiry/
When you have to infer that Millwall fans don't get the need for something as proof that it shouldn't happen you really are clutching at straws.4 -
Yes, but to be fair to the spanners they have publicised it among their forums.
Might need to wash my mouth out now.1 -
It's the last sentence that demonstrates they just don't get it.se9addick said:
"Interestingly the Lions Trust from local rivals Millwall do not to appear to have backed the call for a public enquiry"The Red Robin said:The latest West Ham argument. Doesn't sound like they're too keen on you PA... http://www.claretandhugh.info/taxpayer-would-lose-out-from-a-public-enquiry/
When you're to infer that Millwall fans don't get the need for something as proof that it shouldn't happen you really are clutching at straws.1 -
http://www.millwall.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=117360&posts=344
Lots of Spanners signing .Mind you they hate Wet Spam .0 -
I presume the angry 'HamburgHammer' and 'GermanEastEnder' are one and the same?The Red Robin said:The latest West Ham argument. Doesn't sound like they're too keen on you PA... http://www.claretandhugh.info/taxpayer-would-lose-out-from-a-public-enquiry/
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I just get the hump that West Ham are being painted as the villain here when they only did (as far as we know) waht any other club would have done in the same situation - negotiating the best deal they could.
If there is indeed dirt to dig up, fair enough. Until they find something though, we have to assume everything has been done correctly.0 -
Apart from the personalisation stuff trying to make it sound as if the whole campaign is about Richard Hunt and no-one else, and the author's inability to check facts, "The new petition is supposedly backed by ..." it is largely an article of blind faith in defending the club he supports. Very little substance to it.The Red Robin said:The latest West Ham argument. Doesn't sound like they're too keen on you PA... http://www.claretandhugh.info/taxpayer-would-lose-out-from-a-public-enquiry/
There is one very interesting point though, "the best solution is just to publish a full and un-censored copy of the Olympic agreement and be done with it. I understand, West Ham could not do this unilaterally without the agreement of the LLDC". Go on then West Ham, do it. I dare you.5 -
Eventually they may have no choice ...the question will be if it ever gets to the public domainStig said:
Apart from the personalisation stuff trying to make it sound as if the whole campaign is about Richard Hunt and no-one else, and the author's inability to check facts, "The new petition is supposedly backed by ..." it is largely an article of blind faith in defending the club he supports. Very little substance to it.The Red Robin said:The latest West Ham argument. Doesn't sound like they're too keen on you PA... http://www.claretandhugh.info/taxpayer-would-lose-out-from-a-public-enquiry/
There is one very interesting point though, "the best solution is just to publish a full and un-censored copy of the Olympic agreement and be done with it. I understand, West Ham could not do this unilaterally without the agreement of the LLDC". Go on then West Ham, do it. I dare you.0 -
But you've been on this thread for long enough now to know it's not about underhand dealing, it's about the level of funds the taxpayer are contributing to your operation. With zero infrastructure costs thanks to the taxpayer, West Ham have been given - in my view - an unfair advantage and are far from paying their way.GermanEastEnder said:I just get the hump that West Ham are being painted as the villain here when they only did (as far as we know) waht any other club would have done in the same situation - negotiating the best deal they could.
If there is indeed dirt to dig up, fair enough. Until they find something though, we have to assume everything has been done correctly.
The way forward is to publish the terms of that deal. Simples.1 -
From the comments there...a very aptly named poster!!The Red Robin said:The latest West Ham argument. Doesn't sound like they're too keen on you PA... http://www.claretandhugh.info/taxpayer-would-lose-out-from-a-public-enquiry/
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This lot love to jump on the waste of tax payers money bandwagon don’t they? Probably the same crowd that want to get rid of the royal family. Probably on benefits their whole lives. The new ‘London’ branding is going to really rub salt in their wounds. Let’s hope so. After all there is only one club in London.8 -
p.s. Just hit 11,000.
Have shared in work...should add a good few over next few days.0 -
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Who is painting West Ham "as the villain" ?GermanEastEnder said:I just get the hump that West Ham are being painted as the villain here when they only did (as far as we know) waht any other club would have done in the same situation - negotiating the best deal they could.
If there is indeed dirt to dig up, fair enough. Until they find something though, we have to assume everything has been done correctly.1 -
Is this just for West Ham costs, or does that include the costs LLDC will cover for UK Athletics, England Athletics and other events rights hosts?0
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Surely, if we are going to assume anything, we should wonder what has been redacted in the FOI request, given the little gems they have let us see (if only by accident). Therefore, lets keep digging - why don't you join us ?GermanEastEnder said:I just get the hump that West Ham are being painted as the villain here when they only did (as far as we know) waht any other club would have done in the same situation - negotiating the best deal they could.
If there is indeed dirt to dig up, fair enough. Until they find something though, we have to assume everything has been done correctly.2 - Sponsored links:
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That was Cameron mixing them up with "his" club, Aston Villa again!se9addick said:
Who is painting West Ham "as the villain" ?GermanEastEnder said:I just get the hump that West Ham are being painted as the villain here when they only did (as far as we know) waht any other club would have done in the same situation - negotiating the best deal they could.
If there is indeed dirt to dig up, fair enough. Until they find something though, we have to assume everything has been done correctly. 5 -
Nobody is, I agree. I think it's rather Wet Spam acting the victim!!se9addick said:
Who is painting West Ham "as the villain" ?GermanEastEnder said:I just get the hump that West Ham are being painted as the villain here when they only did (as far as we know) waht any other club would have done in the same situation - negotiating the best deal they could.
If there is indeed dirt to dig up, fair enough. Until they find something though, we have to assume everything has been done correctly.
The blame here, if blame can be attributed following a full and transparent review of how tax payers money has been spent, will lie with LLDC/Bozo BoJo/politicians. If neglect in a public office can be shown to have taken place then as far as I'm concerned any contract between LLDC and WH should be thrown out.2 -
Interesting that the substandard had it on their website but I can't find it in the hard copy West End final edition. They do love Boris though.0
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No, they're probably not.The Red Robin said:The latest West Ham argument. Doesn't sound like they're too keen on you PA... http://www.claretandhugh.info/taxpayer-would-lose-out-from-a-public-enquiry/
If Brady's goons have done their homework, which they obviously have, they will know what part Prague played in successfully getting Charlton back to The Valley.
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He's a better looking fella than I imagined...ken from bexley said:Richard Pemberton as on BBC London tonight.......
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Scrubs up well in photoshop!.... badges are straight as well.rikofold said:
He's a better looking fella than I imagined...ken from bexley said:Richard Pemberton as on BBC London tonight.......
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It's based on an analysis of Premier League club matchday costs. That is, what does West Ham save by not having to pay for what other clubs have to.Rothko said:Is this just for West Ham costs, or does that include the costs LLDC will cover for UK Athletics, England Athletics and other events rights hosts?
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and properly dressed too unlike that other "plum" © KUMBrikofold said:
He's a better looking fella than I imagined...ken from bexley said:Richard Pemberton as on BBC London tonight.......
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And when you watch the BBC London report, you'll notice your yellow top and gilet working their way back in.PragueAddick said:
and properly dressed too unlike that other "plum" © KUMBrikofold said:
He's a better looking fella than I imagined...ken from bexley said:Richard Pemberton as on BBC London tonight.......
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