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Callum Harriott - loaned to Colchester

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  • IA
    IA Posts: 6,103

    Scoham said:

    wmcf123 said:

    Get him back . We have nobody else to play on the left and this loan spell has served its purpose

    Bergdich, McAleny, Moussa and Ceballos?
    @Scoham -really? I normally respect your footballing judgment on here but am seriously struggling with this. Since when have any of those delivered what Callum has at Charlton in the first team? Don't see any of them having scored five in two games at Championship level yet or much chance of it in the near future...

    Somewhat disingenuous to only comment on his 2 best games & none of the others where he was in the main poor.

    Also, the Blackpool game, although technically a Championship Team, were marooned at the bottom of the league and were middle League 1 level at best.
    Blackpool were 20th that season.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,030
    IA said:

    Scoham said:

    wmcf123 said:

    Get him back . We have nobody else to play on the left and this loan spell has served its purpose

    Bergdich, McAleny, Moussa and Ceballos?
    @Scoham -really? I normally respect your footballing judgment on here but am seriously struggling with this. Since when have any of those delivered what Callum has at Charlton in the first team? Don't see any of them having scored five in two games at Championship level yet or much chance of it in the near future...

    Somewhat disingenuous to only comment on his 2 best games & none of the others where he was in the main poor.

    Also, the Blackpool game, although technically a Championship Team, were marooned at the bottom of the league and were middle League 1 level at best.
    Blackpool were 20th that season.
    Good point. However, as many on here will tell you. You should never let the facts get in the way :smile:
  • Something that most of you are blatantly missing is that he's currently playing on the left of a front 3. Their formation is 4-3-3 which is the same formation we played when he scored 5 in 2 games under Riga.

    Unfortunately Luzon seems set on a 4-4-2 which Callum doesn't play as well in. Seeing as we literally have no decent left midfielder I'd love it if we changed to 4-3-3 and bring Callum back but I think Luzon is a one trick pony and won't change.

    Under Riga we played the most attractive attacking football I've seen for years at Charlton. Most teams in the PL play 4-3-3 so why can't we...and get Callum back to play a major part of it?

    Perfect for when Riga returns after Luzon becomes Roland and Katrien's latest scapegoat then.
  • Just scored again for Colu

    CAFCdamo said:

    Just scored again.

    The kids on fire, he can't stop scoring!

  • His potential fee increasing game by game.

    Don't see him coming back to play for us as things stand.

    Wigan, Bradford or even Colchester will offer something and with his contract up in the summer we'll take it.

    Or he could just hang on and go for nothing in the summer.

    Ditto Pigott.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,369
    He must be recalled as soon as his loan period agreement allows for it. He went away to find form and confidence, it seems that he's found both. He is OUR player and is every much a gem from the academy as are Gomez, Cousins, Fox or any other youth to first teamer of recent vintage. We need an attacker down the left hand side, Harriott is also useful and enthusiastic in getting back and helping out the defence.
    My only caveat is some of our 'fans'. There is a strong anti Harriott element amongst them. Cousins and Solly can have the odd stinker and it's all 'they're one of our own, gawd bless 'em' .. whereas Harriott makes a fuck up and he's the devil incarnate. Give the man a chance folks, at this point in time .. WE NEED HIM TO BE LOVED and we need a change, a breath of fresh air to improve our woeful attack and midfield.
  • He must be recalled as soon as his loan period agreement allows for it. He went away to find form and confidence, it seems that he's found both. He is OUR player and is every much a gem from the academy as are Gomez, Cousins, Fox or any other youth to first teamer of recent vintage. We need an attacker down the left hand side, Harriott is also useful and enthusiastic in getting back and helping out the defence.
    My only caveat is some of our 'fans'. There is a strong anti Harriott element amongst them. Cousins and Solly can have the odd stinker and it's all 'they're one of our own, gawd bless 'em' .. whereas Harriott makes a fuck up and he's the devil incarnate. Give the man a chance folks, at this point in time .. WE NEED HIM TO BE LOVED and we need a change, a breath of fresh air to improve our woeful attack and midfield.

    Spot on. He does seem to get a raw deal from our fans compared to other academy products.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,006
    Ask yourself, if you were Callum, would you play better at Charlton (where many supporters get on your back and you are messed around in positions when you play) or Colchester, (where the fans love him and he is playing regularly
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,420
    edited September 2015
    ross1 said:

    Ask yourself, if you were Callum, would you play better at Charlton (where many supporters get on your back and you are messed around in positions when you play) or Colchester, (where the fans love him and he is playing regularly

    Charlton in the Championship - Tougher opposition, stand out less.
    OR
    Colchester in League One - Easier teams to play against, stand out more.

    I'd take Championship as I like to test myself against higher standards at work.

    I understand your point but sometimes it's about having pride in what you do and not trying to be the Super:star: all the time. Why be a big fish in a small pond, when you can be a normal fish in a normal pond or a normal fish excelling in a normal pond?
  • Way things are going Callum could be playing for Colchester in the Championship next season.

    They started poorly but brought in Sordel, Garven and Harriot and since then have shot up the table.

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  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,661
    Yes I remember that other famous Charlton scapegoat, Kevin Lisbie, playing for Colchester in the Championship, running our defence ragged and scoring their two goals in a 2-1 defeat for us at The Valley.

    As the song (Where Have All The Flowers Gone) goes when will we ever learn when will we ever learn?
  • Harriot had enough chances to make himself a first team regular.

    2012/2013: Brilliant end to the season in his brakeout year.
    2013/2014: Terrible season until last Six matches under Riga
    2014/2015: Squad player at best.
    Now: On form to a lower league team.

    I do not think Harriot is the answer but we could do with some variation in the attacking area.

    My only worry is that when he returns he will have the expectation of carrying on this form in a poorly performing side.

    I reckon he will have returned in time for the Reading match.

  • Yanntheman
    Yanntheman Posts: 421
    edited September 2015
    The thing with people saying that he's 'found his level' is that Callum is still 21. Doing this well in league 1 when you're 21 does not mean that you are going to be league 1 level all your career.

    This is valuable experience at that age and could easily see him make the step up next year, or this year. Just because he was thrown in the deep end at 19 doesn't make him any further along his development than if he wasn't. Would be silly to let him go IMO.
  • Harriott might not be the answer to the left, and no one is suggesting he is, but he is certainly a better option than playing a centre forward or Cousins on the left.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,808
    He deserves another chance.
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,829

    He deserves another chance.

    He can't have one with us until January though!
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,263
    Pedro45 said:

    He deserves another chance.

    He can't have one with us until January though!
    Another great piece of management business! We are short of left sided players so we let one go for 4 months without recall.
  • cazo
    cazo Posts: 1,483
    League one player end of.plus we still have a few more league one players in the team table dont lie.
  • If you're a "league one player", does that mean you play in league one and rip up the league?

    Does that mean all the players playing in league one who aren't scoring every game are league two players?
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,137

    If you're a "league one player", does that mean you play in league one and rip up the league?

    Does that mean all the players playing in league one who aren't scoring every game are league two players?

    Some must be worse than that, which is where it gets complicated...

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  • cazo
    cazo Posts: 1,483
    Riping up the league good for him so hope he stays there.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,420
    let's hope he doesn't over ripen it.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,808
    cazo said:

    League one player end of.plus we still have a few more league one players in the team table dont lie.

    A team of League One players finished 9th in the Championship under CP.
  • cazo said:

    League one player end of.plus we still have a few more league one players in the team table dont lie.

    A team of League One players finished 9th in the Championship under CP.
    SCP if you don't mind.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,361
    I went to the Col U game last night and was sitting behind Damian Matthew. Callum was strutting around with an air of confidence that I hadn't seen from him before. His pace caused problems for Bradford early in the game. Callums goal came with a run on the left, cutting in on the edge of the box and shooting. The shot wasn't that powerful but the ball went in under the body of Brad Jones, who couldn't get down quick enough. Callum played quite well but gave the ball away a few times early On. I thought Sordell looked too good to be playing at that level.
  • Sordell has a lot of ability, it is a mystery as to how he has ended up in Div 1, having played in the Prem last year for Burnley.

    Harriot is a different case, and this loan spelll could be the making of him, as others have pointed out, he is far better suited to playing on the left of a front three, than he is a left sided player in a four man midfield.

    Hope that he comes good, as quality left sided players are hard to find.
  • Redhenry said:

    I went to the Col U game last night and was sitting behind Damian Matthew. Callum was strutting around with an air of confidence that I hadn't seen from him before. His pace caused problems for Bradford early in the game. Callums goal came with a run on the left, cutting in on the edge of the box and shooting. The shot wasn't that powerful but the ball went in under the body of Brad Jones, who couldn't get down quick enough. Callum played quite well but gave the ball away a few times early On. I thought Sordell looked too good to be playing at that level.

    Brad Jones is another one who's really dropped down the leagues as well, it shows how competitive the Championship is when players like Sordell and Jones are dropping TWO divisions
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,361
    Brad Jones was poor and looked very nervous
  • RugbyAddick
    RugbyAddick Posts: 2,083
    I think it's best for both us and Harriott if he stays where he is until January. Let him have a good run of games and improve as a football player. His time at Colchester should mature him and make him more intelligent as a footballer.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,006
    Did not score today, Colchester lost 0-1