Target 20,000 launched
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Slight tongue in cheek? Totally misleading actually, worthy of a KM statementAtletico Addick said:
Those who want involved, obviously a bit over the top using the word everyone, slight tongue in cheek.. but 'everyone' who seems to be in favour of this Target 20k, which is far more than those who are 'against it (against the timing and the manner of which it's being done, not against having 20,000 fans at The Valley).PragueAddick said:
Who is this "everyone" you refer to ?Atletico Addick said:
And everyone is falling head over heals for it because it feels like progression of our football club. It's unrealistic and the only thing it'll achieve is a couple more bums on seats that RD & KM has already lost - and guess who's winning them back? Not RD & KM. The fans. Who's hard work can be so easily undone with another of one of their 101 how not to run a Football Club actions..andynelson said:A bit like the Climate Change Summit in Paris- setting an unrealistic target which gives those involved a temporary feeling of euphoria but achieves nothing else.
As a whole/generally people are viewing this as a step forward from the current regime, seemingly?
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Arsenal just gone 2 - 0 up at Villa, in 38th minute.
Commentator says a lot of people in Holt End got up in unison and have walked out.
"Some of the spaces behind the goal are as big as the holes in the Villa defence".
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There could be a bloc of people who would consider it a step forward even if they have doubts about the way it is being organised and how effective it might turn out to be. Such people are definitely not "falling for" anything. And yes, I'm in that bloc right now.Atletico Addick said:
Those who want involved, obviously a bit over the top using the word everyone, slight tongue in cheek.. but 'everyone' who seems to be in favour of this Target 20k, which is far more than those who are 'against it (against the timing and the manner of which it's being done, not against having 20,000 fans at The Valley).PragueAddick said:
Who is this "everyone" you refer to ?Atletico Addick said:
And everyone is falling head over heals for it because it feels like progression of our football club. It's unrealistic and the only thing it'll achieve is a couple more bums on seats that RD & KM has already lost - and guess who's winning them back? Not RD & KM. The fans. Who's hard work can be so easily undone with another of one of their 101 how not to run a Football Club actions..andynelson said:A bit like the Climate Change Summit in Paris- setting an unrealistic target which gives those involved a temporary feeling of euphoria but achieves nothing else.
As a whole/generally people are viewing this as a step forward from the current regime, seemingly?
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Poor guys. Losing at home to Arsenal, disgraceful result.WrightCharlie said:Arsenal just gone 2 - 0 up at Villa, in 38th minute.
Commentator says a lot of people in Holt End got up in unison and have walked out.
"Some of the spaces behind the goal are as big as the holes in the Villa defence".
Shame for such a great club.
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The problem is that any new fans that could be attracted now, will only fill the gaps of those that have left already or those that do not intend to renew their ST's at the end of the season. They need to find a way to stop the exodus, get the recent regulars to come back (myself included) and then hope to attract the rest to make it up to 20k.3
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From what I seen with my own eyes,the majority of members who are still going are over 35!JohnnyH2 said:Not surprising the age gaps stop at 35, they have no interested in the older supporters, that interview KM spoke volumes
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Now I know what I did wrong against Preston.WrightCharlie said:Arsenal just gone 2 - 0 up at Villa, in 38th minute.
Commentator says a lot of people in Holt End got up in unison and have walked out.
"Some of the spaces behind the goal are as big as the holes in the Villa defence".
Shame for such a great club.
Stayed until the bitter end trying to support my team.0 -
For those interested, the background to this is that on the day before the Ipswich game I was at The Valley to deliver some books to the shop. While I was there I met Mick Everett and he asked me if I would be willing to participate in a Target 20k committee, along with some of the other people who had previously been involved with Target 40k/10k, and who had already indicated at the recent meeting that they would e.g. former VIP directors Steve Clarke and Craig Norris.
On that basis, because I have a lot of respect for Mick, and because I think there is an onus on me to be constructive as well as critical, I said that in principle I would. However, when the initiative was announced it was clear that the goalposts had been moved and it had been changed into a representative focus group, rather than a mechanism to draw on the experience outside the club.
As well as this being stated in the website story, I received two emails from the club saying that people who had previously agreed to be involved would now need to "apply" under the new structure, which I was not willing to do.
The club then sent me an email late on Friday telling me my "application" had been successful and announced that I would represent over 35s, which was news to me.
TBH I'm relaxed about it either way. It's a 130-mile round trip for me to get to The Valley and I'm not inclined to make it to play charades. Mick's involvement and that of others with experience is pretty fundamental to ensuring that it isn't, which is no disrespect to other supporters who have offered their time. Nobody is arguing that it should be confined to the old guard.
In my view this is about retention not recruitment at present - people distracted by the title miss the point. There is a great deal the club could very easily do better than it is at no additional cost to itself. The fundamental issue remains the football, which won't be impacted by this group at all, but that doesn't mean there is nothing that can be done which is positive.
As an aside, it's notable that despite the attempt to make it representative, which I agree with Henry is a total misunderstanding of what it should be, the club has named only one woman in its list of members.10 -
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So The Oracle was asked if he'd take part, said he would take part and was then selected to take part.
Seems fairly straightforward.0 - Sponsored links:
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So WUM54 waded in on a simple comment explaining the latest controversy, attempted a clever comment to make himself feel like he's lived up to his Daddy's expectations ("Yes" he screamed, "I've got them now Daddy!")—but got tripped up on the person making the comment—and then was put right but someone who can actually read what's been written.
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Still think target 5000 has more chance. We don't have to do anything or meet anyone, as Ducatalet, the failed CEO, the endless Belgian interim managers and the majority of club staff do the work for us.0
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Daddy's expectations? Can you explain ?LoOkOuT said:So WUM54 waded in on a simple comment explaining the latest controversy, attempted a clever comment to make himself feel like he's lived up to his Daddy's expectations ("Yes" he screamed, "I've got them now Daddy!")—but got tripped up on the person making the comment—and then was put right but someone who can actually read what's been written.
Seems fairly straightforward.0 -
Messages read & understood. You implore all fans not to go & you want a target 5,000. I think we all get itkentred2 said:Still think target 5000 has more chance. We don't have to do anything or meet anyone, as Ducatalet, the failed CEO, the endless Belgian interim managers and the majority of club staff do the work for us.
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Your trolling seems to have took a back step, it used to have some substance, now it is asking people to relay their points in layman's terms to you.. Odd.PL54 said:
Daddy's expectations? Can you explain ?LoOkOuT said:So WUM54 waded in on a simple comment explaining the latest controversy, attempted a clever comment to make himself feel like he's lived up to his Daddy's expectations ("Yes" he screamed, "I've got them now Daddy!")—but got tripped up on the person making the comment—and then was put right but someone who can actually read what's been written.
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Chief Operating Officer, or so I was informed.lancashire lad said:please - who is Tony Keohone and what is he meant to do?
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Meeting scheduled to take place 1pm on Bank Holiday Monday.0
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Will you be attending ?Airman Brown said:Meeting scheduled to take place 1pm on Bank Holiday Monday.
I should imagine the meetng will close by 1.05 pm.
There's nothing to discuss.
The plan is now laid bare. You couldn't give away 20,000 tickets for each game, let alone expect fans to buy them, unless they change their plan.4 -
Agreed.Covered End said:
Will you be attending ?Airman Brown said:Meeting scheduled to take place 1pm on Bank Holiday Monday.
I should imagine the meetng will close by 1.05 pm.
There's nothing to discuss.
The plan is now laid bare. You couldn't give away 20,000 tickets for each game, let alone expect fans to buy them, unless they change their plan.0 - Sponsored links:
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Exactly ...now a worthless exerciseCovered End said:
Will you be attending ?Airman Brown said:Meeting scheduled to take place 1pm on Bank Holiday Monday.
I should imagine the meetng will close by 1.05 pm.
There's nothing to discuss.
The plan is now laid bare. You couldn't give away 20,000 tickets for each game, let alone expect fans to buy them, unless they change their plan.0 -
Before the game?Airman Brown said:Meeting scheduled to take place 1pm on Bank Holiday Monday.
Look forward to hearing your view on it at half time then
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Good luck, it's going to be a long time before I bother making the 9 hour round trip from Devon again1
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Oh, I think we'll have something else to discuss at half-time, don't worry! ;-)PragueAddick said:
Before the game?Airman Brown said:Meeting scheduled to take place 1pm on Bank Holiday Monday.
Look forward to hearing your view on it at half time then
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Hmmm. Is this something "good" or "bad" for us and our Club, AB ?Airman Brown said:
Oh, I think we'll have something else to discuss at half-time, don't worry! ;-)PragueAddick said:
Before the game?Airman Brown said:Meeting scheduled to take place 1pm on Bank Holiday Monday.
Look forward to hearing your view on it at half time then
We can play charades if you like.
I'll start .
Sounds like ...?
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Sorry, Christmas calls...Fanny Fanackapan said:
Hmmm. Is this something "good" or "bad" for us and our Club, AB ?Airman Brown said:
Oh, I think we'll have something else to discuss at half-time, don't worry! ;-)PragueAddick said:
Before the game?Airman Brown said:Meeting scheduled to take place 1pm on Bank Holiday Monday.
Look forward to hearing your view on it at half time then
We can play charades if you like.
I'll start .
Sounds like ...?
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Any news/update on the meeting, did it take place today?Airman Brown said:Meeting scheduled to take place 1pm on Bank Holiday Monday.
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Fair play to KM, attendance was up. 1
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18k at The Valley today, might not need the focus group after all.......... What's that, there wasn't 18k in attendance after all, oh1
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Kid for a quid and holidays
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