Will Trump become President?
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bookies odds on 13/10 ? .. Clinton 1/6 .. Trump 5/1.. an honest politician 1,000,000 / 15
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What's that?Lincsaddick said:bookies odds on 13/10 ? .. Clinton 1/6 .. Trump 5/1.. an honest politician 1,000,000 / 1
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That nice Mr Blair was a pretty straight sort of guy.SDAddick said:
What's that?Lincsaddick said:bookies odds on 13/10 ? .. Clinton 1/6 .. Trump 5/1.. an honest politician 1,000,000 / 1
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http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/twitter_deeply_disturbed_over_trump_s_speech
So there are *some* (and I could not find a major or even remotely impartial news source covering this angle, NCRM is very much pro-Clinton/Dems) claiming that a speech Trump gave today has strong undertones of Anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, namely that the [Jew] media and the [Jew] banks and [Jew] corporations are out to get all of you. I went as far as to listen to some of his speech to try to get a context and, as an anti-semitic Jew who has problems with banks and corporations I still can't make heads or tails of it.
There are definitely parallels with Trump's speech and a New World Order conspiracy theory in which the Jew bankers and Jew media run the world. But by that same token, plenty of people, including Agnostic Jews (myself, Bernie Sanders, in that order) have problems with the influence of banks and corporations on American lives, let alone the fact that most of our mainstream media organizations (including the conservative ones) are owned by large corporations.
So, um, call it a draw? This is what this election has become, trying to figure out if one candidate spent 40 minutes spouting an anti-Semitic New World Order conspiracy theory and wondering if I should start using my mum's last name just in case...0 -
Sweet baby Jesus and the orphans. He is in full meltdown imploding like a fat orange star going Supernova whose dramatic and catastrophic destruction is marked by a titanic explosion.SDAddick said:http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/twitter_deeply_disturbed_over_trump_s_speech
So there are *some* (and I could not find a major or even remotely impartial news source covering this angle, NCRM is very much pro-Clinton/Dems) claiming that a speech Trump gave today has strong undertones of Anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, namely that the [Jew] media and the [Jew] banks and [Jew] corporations are out to get all of you. I went as far as to listen to some of his speech to try to get a context and, as an anti-semitic Jew who has problems with banks and corporations I still can't make heads or tails of it.
There are definitely parallels with Trump's speech and a New World Order conspiracy theory in which the Jew bankers and Jew media run the world. But by that same token, plenty of people, including Agnostic Jews (myself, Bernie Sanders, in that order) have problems with the influence of banks and corporations on American lives, let alone the fact that most of our mainstream media organizations (including the conservative ones) are owned by large corporations.
So, um, call it a draw? This is what this election has become, trying to figure out if one candidate spent 40 minutes spouting an anti-Semitic New World Order conspiracy theory and wondering if I should start using my mum's last name just in case...2 -
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In a surprise move Jeremy Corbyn has just come out and endorsed Trump.SDAddick said:http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/twitter_deeply_disturbed_over_trump_s_speech
So there are *some* (and I could not find a major or even remotely impartial news source covering this angle, NCRM is very much pro-Clinton/Dems) claiming that a speech Trump gave today has strong undertones of Anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, namely that the [Jew] media and the [Jew] banks and [Jew] corporations are out to get all of you. I went as far as to listen to some of his speech to try to get a context and, as an anti-semitic Jew who has problems with banks and corporations I still can't make heads or tails of it.
There are definitely parallels with Trump's speech and a New World Order conspiracy theory in which the Jew bankers and Jew media run the world. But by that same token, plenty of people, including Agnostic Jews (myself, Bernie Sanders, in that order) have problems with the influence of banks and corporations on American lives, let alone the fact that most of our mainstream media organizations (including the conservative ones) are owned by large corporations.
So, um, call it a draw? This is what this election has become, trying to figure out if one candidate spent 40 minutes spouting an anti-Semitic New World Order conspiracy theory and wondering if I should start using my mum's last name just in case...4 -
SantaClaus said:
In a surprise move Jeremy Corbyn has just come out, and groped Trump grabbing him by the balls, he was later heard to say 'when you are a socialist star you can do what you want, grab them by the cock, the balls, anything.'SDAddick said:http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/twitter_deeply_disturbed_over_trump_s_speech
So there are *some* (and I could not find a major or even remotely impartial news source covering this angle, NCRM is very much pro-Clinton/Dems) claiming that a speech Trump gave today has strong undertones of Anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, namely that the [Jew] media and the [Jew] banks and [Jew] corporations are out to get all of you. I went as far as to listen to some of his speech to try to get a context and, as an anti-semitic Jew who has problems with banks and corporations I still can't make heads or tails of it.
There are definitely parallels with Trump's speech and a New World Order conspiracy theory in which the Jew bankers and Jew media run the world. But by that same token, plenty of people, including Agnostic Jews (myself, Bernie Sanders, in that order) have problems with the influence of banks and corporations on American lives, let alone the fact that most of our mainstream media organizations (including the conservative ones) are owned by large corporations.
So, um, call it a draw? This is what this election has become, trying to figure out if one candidate spent 40 minutes spouting an anti-Semitic New World Order conspiracy theory and wondering if I should start using my mum's last name just in case...2 -
Later reported by capitalist media as Tsar, not star.2
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That speech was totally consistent with the anti-Washington elite tone of his campaign from the beginning. The anti-Semitic claim is complete bollocks.SDAddick said:http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/twitter_deeply_disturbed_over_trump_s_speech
So there are *some* (and I could not find a major or even remotely impartial news source covering this angle, NCRM is very much pro-Clinton/Dems) claiming that a speech Trump gave today has strong undertones of Anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, namely that the [Jew] media and the [Jew] banks and [Jew] corporations are out to get all of you. I went as far as to listen to some of his speech to try to get a context and, as an anti-semitic Jew who has problems with banks and corporations I still can't make heads or tails of it.
There are definitely parallels with Trump's speech and a New World Order conspiracy theory in which the Jew bankers and Jew media run the world. But by that same token, plenty of people, including Agnostic Jews (myself, Bernie Sanders, in that order) have problems with the influence of banks and corporations on American lives, let alone the fact that most of our mainstream media organizations (including the conservative ones) are owned by large corporations.
So, um, call it a draw? This is what this election has become, trying to figure out if one candidate spent 40 minutes spouting an anti-Semitic New World Order conspiracy theory and wondering if I should start using my mum's last name just in case...
That is twice today I have defended Trump!1 -
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Until he fails, Nate Silver is the man to follow
http://fivethirtyeight.com/
Landslide to Clinton, deadlocked Senate.
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I've got through the first 3 chapters of Nate Silver's book. Great ability to analyse this sort of nonsense but can't say I enjoyed reading it...0
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You've got to admire Trump's intolerance. Jew or Muslim hating politicians are a dime a dozen but not many go after both faiths so enthusiastically. In many ways he's quite progressive in the equality of his bigotry.SDAddick said:http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/twitter_deeply_disturbed_over_trump_s_speech
So there are *some* (and I could not find a major or even remotely impartial news source covering this angle, NCRM is very much pro-Clinton/Dems) claiming that a speech Trump gave today has strong undertones of Anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, namely that the [Jew] media and the [Jew] banks and [Jew] corporations are out to get all of you. I went as far as to listen to some of his speech to try to get a context and, as an anti-semitic Jew who has problems with banks and corporations I still can't make heads or tails of it.
There are definitely parallels with Trump's speech and a New World Order conspiracy theory in which the Jew bankers and Jew media run the world. But by that same token, plenty of people, including Agnostic Jews (myself, Bernie Sanders, in that order) have problems with the influence of banks and corporations on American lives, let alone the fact that most of our mainstream media organizations (including the conservative ones) are owned by large corporations.
So, um, call it a draw? This is what this election has become, trying to figure out if one candidate spent 40 minutes spouting an anti-Semitic New World Order conspiracy theory and wondering if I should start using my mum's last name just in case...1 -
Just read the transcript of his latest speech and I didn't get any of the anti Semitic stuff mentioned but it is full of paranoia and hate and he almost describes himself as the one to stop the four horsemen of the apocalypse riding in and laying waste to America. You could sense he was frothing at the mouth towards the end. Scary stuff. And it all feels like some epic drama with a cliffhanger at the end of each day.2
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He's a star.0
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Katie Hopkins explaining her reasons for backing Trump in the US Elections on This Week. She is like the British version of Ann Coulter less the whiny nasal accent.1
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Hillary Clinton now been asked to provide answers to 20 questions on her email server issue to federal judge or face perjury if she fails to answer questions properly.0
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I think @Red_in_SE8 puts it best when he says it sounds like his usual frothing at the mouth nonsense, which is almost more scary! RIS, I felt the same way, and it feels dirty inside, doesn't it? Like no shower is going to make you feel clean.1StevieG said:Just read the transcript of his latest speech and I didn't get any of the anti Semitic stuff mentioned but it is full of paranoia and hate and he almost describes himself as the one to stop the four horsemen of the apocalypse riding in and laying waste to America. You could sense he was frothing at the mouth towards the end. Scary stuff. And it all feels like some epic drama with a cliffhanger at the end of each day.
If you are, for some reason, curious about the New World Order "Jewish Cabal" that people say Trump may be referencing, you could do what I did and YouTube search for things like "New World Order Jews" and you will come up with videos with titles like "The Illuminati, Freemasonry and the New World Order jewish bankers behind all wars and revolutions of 20th century." It's a title that reads like someone is shouting it at you!
I would fucking love to know what the Google algorithms think of me right now.0 -
Lot of allegations coming trumps way.
Sexual assault allegations of the past.
For someone in line to become president of the United States....it's a bit of a hit.
Innocent till proven guilty.
Image wise. Probably the worst possible thing that could be thrown at you a month before Election Day.
Lose a lot if the undecided.
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Just watch this blow up once she is President.1StevieG said:Hillary Clinton now been asked to provide answers to 20 questions on her email server issue to federal judge or face perjury if she fails to answer questions properly.
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One of the best articles I've read recently on the Trump/angry-white-man phenomenon, written by someone who, refreshingly, seems to be able to see both sides of the story
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/
He concludes "It feels good to dismiss people, to mock them, to write them off as deplorables. But you might as well take time to try to understand them, because I'm telling you, they'll still be around long after Trump is gone."0 -
That is a vey insightful articleredlanered said:One of the best articles I've read recently on the Trump/angry-white-man phenomenon, written by someone who, refreshingly, seems to be able to see both sides of the story
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/
He concludes "It feels good to dismiss people, to mock them, to write them off as deplorables. But you might as well take time to try to understand them, because I'm telling you, they'll still be around long after Trump is gone."0 -
If trump becomes President of the USofA I genuinely don't know how I'd react... it is the most terrifying threat to planet earth since a large meteor hit the planet...1
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I'm not sure what's more scary. The thought of Trump in the Oval Office or the thought of scores of millions of people who will actually vote for him in a few weeks time. What the hell are they thinking. I know we're supposed to respect the opinions of others but I literally cannot have any respect for anyone who would vote for this moron.Dazzler21 said:If trump becomes President of the USofA I genuinely don't know how I'd react... it is the most terrifying threat to planet earth since a large meteor hit the planet...
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A quote often attributed to Alexis de Toqueville is apt here:Rizzo said:
I'm not sure what's more scary. The thought of Trump in the Oval Office or the thought of scores of millions of people who will actually vote for him in a few weeks time. What the hell are they thinking. I know we're supposed to respect the opinions of others but I literally cannot have any respect for anyone who would vote for this moron.Dazzler21 said:If trump becomes President of the USofA I genuinely don't know how I'd react... it is the most terrifying threat to planet earth since a large meteor hit the planet...
"In a democracy, people get the government they deserve"6 -
No denying she's fit but he's her father. Just....eeeeughh!2
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Unfortunately people seem quite content to ignore where the information comes from if it fits their agenda.SELR_addicks said:Wikileaks stuff is very very shady. Not sure American citizens would be happy that (potentially) Russian backed sites are trying to fix the outcome of the election.
The most worrying thing about this election is, in my opinion, not the possibility of Trump becoming POTUS (which is horrifying.) but actually the level of Russian intervention in the process. Alas, Trump supporters are on Twitter begging WikiLeaks to release more data - and when challenged they just ignore how dodgy it is that Russia is getting directly involved in there election.0 -
You're talking about desperate people who have seen their parents well paid jobs outsourced and have been forced into trailer park reservations (or fear they will soon) by sky high housing/living costs. Does it really surprise you that they're somewhat unenthused by establishment politicians? Why should they vote for Hillary who will deliver more of the same?Rizzo said:
I'm not sure what's more scary. The thought of Trump in the Oval Office or the thought of scores of millions of people who will actually vote for him in a few weeks time. What the hell are they thinking. I know we're supposed to respect the opinions of others but I literally cannot have any respect for anyone who would vote for this moron.Dazzler21 said:If trump becomes President of the USofA I genuinely don't know how I'd react... it is the most terrifying threat to planet earth since a large meteor hit the planet...
Trump is just a symptom of a system that is buckling because fewer and fewer people derive any benefits from it. I don't like or agree with Trump but I can empathise with people who have been shafted by forces outside their control and I can't bring myself to condemn them for being angry even if I disagree with the focus of their rage.
I guarantee other populists are looking at Trump and how far he's made it. When their time comes they won't make the same mistakes. I'd be more worried about them than the pantomime villain we've got right now.3 -
I cant decide which side of the family she takes after?LuckyReds said:
Fair play to him for the honesty:3blokes said:And just seen this -
In 2006, he made a similar comment about his own daughter, Ivanka Trump: “I’ve said that if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her,” Trump said.
That is an unbelievable comment.
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