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  • In February this thread will be four years old.

    And the OP is still wrong

    JJ isn't the future and wasn't four years ago when we were playing in the Championship.

    Football isn't all about sentimentality otherwise nobody would ever retire or be moved on.

    JJ has been a great servant for the club and showed yesterday he can do a job if required in L1.

    Would JJ want to start more games?
    Compare and contrast
    You've replied to me twice which is nice - I love your style. When I made the original post we were in the Championship in case you've forgotten.

    JJ now operates as a backup which illustrates my point that MR doesn't see him as a starter in L1. I'm sure even JJ would accept he'd struggle.

    Thank you for your interest...
    "Don't think Jacko adds anything to the team anymore."

    JJ proving you wrong for nearly four years - in the Championship and League 1

    QED
    Jackson is past his best however hard it is for you to accept that - maybe ageing is an issue for you? If we are serious about competing he wasn't the answer four years ago in the Championship and he's not the answer now which in case you haven't noticed is why he doesn't start.

    If you place selection on the basis of sentimentality then he would be the first name on the team sheet.

    If you want to see him selected every week and think he adds a lot to the team then that's fine - we can agree to disagree.

    Anyway I'm bored now ...

  • Jacko was an absolute diamond yesterday,won every header,hardly misplaced a pass,yes he got a bit tired,but really would like to see more of him,especially as our super signings reeves and marshall are doing nothing.Special mention for Jacko in the way he politely requested that Amos might wish to improve his kicking.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220

    In February this thread will be four years old.

    And the OP is still wrong

    JJ isn't the future and wasn't four years ago when we were playing in the Championship.

    Football isn't all about sentimentality otherwise nobody would ever retire or be moved on.

    JJ has been a great servant for the club and showed yesterday he can do a job if required in L1.

    Would JJ want to start more games?
    Compare and contrast
    You've replied to me twice which is nice - I love your style. When I made the original post we were in the Championship in case you've forgotten.

    JJ now operates as a backup which illustrates my point that MR doesn't see him as a starter in L1. I'm sure even JJ would accept he'd struggle.

    Thank you for your interest...
    "Don't think Jacko adds anything to the team anymore."

    JJ proving you wrong for nearly four years - in the Championship and League 1

    QED
    Jackson is past his best however hard it is for you to accept that - maybe ageing is an issue for you? If we are serious about competing he wasn't the answer four years ago in the Championship and he's not the answer now which in case you haven't noticed is why he doesn't start.

    If you place selection on the basis of sentimentality then he would be the first name on the team sheet.

    If you want to see him selected every week and think he adds a lot to the team then that's fine - we can agree to disagree.

    Anyway I'm bored now ...

    Big difference between "past his best" IE what you are saying now (and which no one has denied) and "he adds nothing" and "his time is up" IE what you said FOUR years ago.

    Sorry, you find your own thread boring. I and many others have enjoyed it greatly over the past four seasons.

    Just as we've enjoyed JJ's contributions and goal.
  • In February this thread will be four years old.

    And the OP is still wrong

    JJ isn't the future and wasn't four years ago when we were playing in the Championship.

    Football isn't all about sentimentality otherwise nobody would ever retire or be moved on.

    JJ has been a great servant for the club and showed yesterday he can do a job if required in L1.

    Would JJ want to start more games?
    Compare and contrast
    You've replied to me twice which is nice - I love your style. When I made the original post we were in the Championship in case you've forgotten.

    JJ now operates as a backup which illustrates my point that MR doesn't see him as a starter in L1. I'm sure even JJ would accept he'd struggle.

    Thank you for your interest...
    "Don't think Jacko adds anything to the team anymore."

    JJ proving you wrong for nearly four years - in the Championship and League 1

    QED
    Jackson is past his best however hard it is for you to accept that - maybe ageing is an issue for you? If we are serious about competing he wasn't the answer four years ago in the Championship and he's not the answer now which in case you haven't noticed is why he doesn't start.

    If you place selection on the basis of sentimentality then he would be the first name on the team sheet.

    If you want to see him selected every week and think he adds a lot to the team then that's fine - we can agree to disagree.

    Anyway I'm bored now ...

    Big difference between "past his best" IE what you are saying now (and which no one has denied) and "he adds nothing" and "his time is up" IE what you said FOUR years ago.

    Sorry, you find your own thread boring. I and many others have enjoyed it greatly over the past four seasons.

    Just as we've enjoyed JJ's contributions and goal.
    I'm bored of you and if you're going to be pedantic which seems to be your speciality I never said 'he adds nothing'.

    Were you a schoolteacher in a previous life?
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955

    In February this thread will be four years old.

    And the OP is still wrong

    JJ isn't the future and wasn't four years ago when we were playing in the Championship.

    Football isn't all about sentimentality otherwise nobody would ever retire or be moved on.

    JJ has been a great servant for the club and showed yesterday he can do a job if required in L1.

    Would JJ want to start more games?
    Compare and contrast
    You've replied to me twice which is nice - I love your style. When I made the original post we were in the Championship in case you've forgotten.

    JJ now operates as a backup which illustrates my point that MR doesn't see him as a starter in L1. I'm sure even JJ would accept he'd struggle.

    Thank you for your interest...
    "Don't think Jacko adds anything to the team anymore."

    JJ proving you wrong for nearly four years - in the Championship and League 1

    QED
    Jackson is past his best however hard it is for you to accept that - maybe ageing is an issue for you? If we are serious about competing he wasn't the answer four years ago in the Championship and he's not the answer now which in case you haven't noticed is why he doesn't start.

    If you place selection on the basis of sentimentality then he would be the first name on the team sheet.

    If you want to see him selected every week and think he adds a lot to the team then that's fine - we can agree to disagree.

    Anyway I'm bored now ...

    Big difference between "past his best" IE what you are saying now (and which no one has denied) and "he adds nothing" and "his time is up" IE what you said FOUR years ago.

    Sorry, you find your own thread boring. I and many others have enjoyed it greatly over the past four seasons.

    Just as we've enjoyed JJ's contributions and goal.
    I'm bored of you and if you're going to be pedantic which seems to be your speciality I never said 'he adds nothing'.

    Were you a schoolteacher in a previous life?
    No, just a director at Charlton.

  • In February this thread will be four years old.

    And the OP is still wrong

    JJ isn't the future and wasn't four years ago when we were playing in the Championship.

    Football isn't all about sentimentality otherwise nobody would ever retire or be moved on.

    JJ has been a great servant for the club and showed yesterday he can do a job if required in L1.

    Would JJ want to start more games?
    Compare and contrast
    You've replied to me twice which is nice - I love your style. When I made the original post we were in the Championship in case you've forgotten.

    JJ now operates as a backup which illustrates my point that MR doesn't see him as a starter in L1. I'm sure even JJ would accept he'd struggle.

    Thank you for your interest...
    "Don't think Jacko adds anything to the team anymore."

    JJ proving you wrong for nearly four years - in the Championship and League 1

    QED
    Jackson is past his best however hard it is for you to accept that - maybe ageing is an issue for you? If we are serious about competing he wasn't the answer four years ago in the Championship and he's not the answer now which in case you haven't noticed is why he doesn't start.

    If you place selection on the basis of sentimentality then he would be the first name on the team sheet.

    If you want to see him selected every week and think he adds a lot to the team then that's fine - we can agree to disagree.

    Anyway I'm bored now ...

    Big difference between "past his best" IE what you are saying now (and which no one has denied) and "he adds nothing" and "his time is up" IE what you said FOUR years ago.

    Sorry, you find your own thread boring. I and many others have enjoyed it greatly over the past four seasons.

    Just as we've enjoyed JJ's contributions and goal.
    I'm bored of you and if you're going to be pedantic which seems to be your speciality I never said 'he adds nothing'.

    Were you a schoolteacher in a previous life?

    Don't think Jacko adds anything to the team anymore. Shouldn't be starting as the game is passing him by.

    Maybe not word for word, no.
  • Jacko was an absolute diamond yesterday,won every header,hardly misplaced a pass,yes he got a bit tired,but really would like to see more of him,especially as our super signings reeves and marshall are doing nothing.Special mention for Jacko in the way he politely requested that Amos might wish to improve his kicking.

    Missed that. How did he suggest that to Amos.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,670
    I spoke to JJ on the train on the way back from Fleetwood and he was adamant that this is his last season as a player.
    So in our last home game of the season i would love for him to come on at some point and be given a sendoff that he richly deserve 's
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    The real problem on Saturday was two left feet. Neither JJ or Reeves can kick with their right foot. The team was lacking balance as a result.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    His Christmas song quiz against Billy Clarke is a hilarious watch.

    "How comes he gets all the easy pop ones and I keep getting the sit round the fire, folk ones?" - had me in stitches!
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  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,595
    edited December 2017
    I do find it funny that approaching four years on we're still discussing it, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

    On saturday he played well, did he look like a player unable to play in the side against Blackpool in League 1? How many headers did he win, and when he won them he found a red shirt. No wayward passes and he managed to get into the box pretty quickly a couple of times, sadly though the quality of ball into the box was lacking.

    He may not have the turn of speed he once had, and he may get caught out at times where once he was able to recover the lost the ball. But on Saturday was a sniff of the old Jacko, with a little less pace and not a lot of experience around him, his footballing brain means he's been able to play on longer than he 'should'. He won't cope with 90 minutes once or twice a week through a season, but once in a while he still can, probably not against teams topping the table who will expose his frailties, but when called upon you know he'll do a job and wear the shirt with pride. I'm surprised he's not been used more, particularly in a sweeper role, at the moment with the lack of players i'd play 4,1(Jacko),4,1 and even the a Kashi etc is back i'd probably pump him on if we need a goal for the last 10 minutes more than any other player at the club.

    I remember for a good 18 months people saying Walshie's legs had gone, and to an extent they had, age and injuries took their toll, but we still played him and with Minto he had a willing runner.

    No doubt Jacko's numbers nearly up, but on the 28th April 2018 I hope as many people come to the Valley to say goodbye to a real Charlton hero who's stood by us during our best and darkest days over the last 10 years. As supporters we should also do something fitting that day to honour him (I have a few ideas), and at Rochdale away on Sunday 5th May i'll be scrabbling to get on the pitch at the end to loft him up high. Can't think of many players over the past 6 years I could or would want to say that about them........

    See you tomorrow skip.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783

    In February this thread will be four years old.

    And the OP is still wrong

    JJ isn't the future and wasn't four years ago when we were playing in the Championship.

    Football isn't all about sentimentality otherwise nobody would ever retire or be moved on.

    JJ has been a great servant for the club and showed yesterday he can do a job if required in L1.

    Would JJ want to start more games?
    Compare and contrast
    You've replied to me twice which is nice - I love your style. When I made the original post we were in the Championship in case you've forgotten.

    JJ now operates as a backup which illustrates my point that MR doesn't see him as a starter in L1. I'm sure even JJ would accept he'd struggle.

    Thank you for your interest...
    "Don't think Jacko adds anything to the team anymore."

    JJ proving you wrong for nearly four years - in the Championship and League 1

    QED
    Jackson is past his best however hard it is for you to accept that - maybe ageing is an issue for you? If we are serious about competing he wasn't the answer four years ago in the Championship and he's not the answer now which in case you haven't noticed is why he doesn't start.

    If you place selection on the basis of sentimentality then he would be the first name on the team sheet.

    If you want to see him selected every week and think he adds a lot to the team then that's fine - we can agree to disagree.

    Anyway I'm bored now ...

    Big difference between "past his best" IE what you are saying now (and which no one has denied) and "he adds nothing" and "his time is up" IE what you said FOUR years ago.

    Sorry, you find your own thread boring. I and many others have enjoyed it greatly over the past four seasons.

    Just as we've enjoyed JJ's contributions and goal.
    I'm bored of you and if you're going to be pedantic which seems to be your speciality I never said 'he adds nothing'.

    Were you a schoolteacher in a previous life?
    Oi!!! Bit harsh on us schoolteachers! :smiley:
  • In February this thread will be four years old.

    And the OP is still wrong

    JJ isn't the future and wasn't four years ago when we were playing in the Championship.

    Football isn't all about sentimentality otherwise nobody would ever retire or be moved on.

    JJ has been a great servant for the club and showed yesterday he can do a job if required in L1.

    Would JJ want to start more games?
    Compare and contrast
    You've replied to me twice which is nice - I love your style. When I made the original post we were in the Championship in case you've forgotten.

    JJ now operates as a backup which illustrates my point that MR doesn't see him as a starter in L1. I'm sure even JJ would accept he'd struggle.

    Thank you for your interest...
    "Don't think Jacko adds anything to the team anymore."

    JJ proving you wrong for nearly four years - in the Championship and League 1

    QED
    Jackson is past his best however hard it is for you to accept that - maybe ageing is an issue for you? If we are serious about competing he wasn't the answer four years ago in the Championship and he's not the answer now which in case you haven't noticed is why he doesn't start.

    If you place selection on the basis of sentimentality then he would be the first name on the team sheet.

    If you want to see him selected every week and think he adds a lot to the team then that's fine - we can agree to disagree.

    Anyway I'm bored now ...

    Big difference between "past his best" IE what you are saying now (and which no one has denied) and "he adds nothing" and "his time is up" IE what you said FOUR years ago.

    Sorry, you find your own thread boring. I and many others have enjoyed it greatly over the past four seasons.

    Just as we've enjoyed JJ's contributions and goal.
    I'm bored of you and if you're going to be pedantic which seems to be your speciality I never said 'he adds nothing'.

    Were you a schoolteacher in a previous life?
    Oi!!! Bit harsh on us schoolteachers! :smiley:
    Apologies .....
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Crusty54 said:

    The real problem on Saturday was two left feet. Neither JJ or Reeves can kick with their right foot. The team was lacking balance as a result.

    Aribo too
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    There was a real difference in leadership at the Wigan game with him in
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    If only that header had gone in at the death !
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,595
    He has an effect on the game (or the players around him) that no one else at the club does aside from potentially Pearce.

    Just like every other time we've been on a bad run, he needs to play a part and more than a 5 minute cameo at the end.

    Next season is a way away yet, but we need a strong captain next year, Pearce might be that man but not sure.
  • The skipper still has an important role to play throughout the reason of the season.

    His cameo still showed his qualities, leadership and organisation skills, as well as his excellent timing into the opposition penalty box.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    edited January 2018

    The skipper still has an important role to play throughout the reason of the season.

    His cameo still showed his qualities, leadership and organisation skills, as well as his excellent timing into the opposition penalty box.

    As he has had for four years and more.
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  • Just announced his Retirement at the end of the season... He HAS to start v Blackburn!!
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    Thanks for so many moments jacko.

    A true legend I hope will be manager one day soon
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,810
    worth going to the Blackburn game just to watch him lead us out one more time and give him the ovation he deserves.

    right up there in my book as one of our greatest servants
  • Hopefully we get a penalty at some stage late on... Be a crime if he's not allowed to take it
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,168

    worth going to the Blackburn game just to watch him lead us out one more time and give him the ovation he deserves.

    right up there in my book as one of our greatest servants

    I think that's the only thing worth breaking a boycott for. The most committed player we've had in years. The only shame is he couldn't have been at his peak when there was a better feeling around the place for longer
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    One more last minute winner would be nice. His occasional appearances on the scoresheet have been pretty much the only thing I've enjoyed during the Roland era.

    A true Charlton legend in my opinion.
  • GreenWithEnvy
    GreenWithEnvy Posts: 1,841
    Nothing but respect and admiration for the man. He may not hail from the local area, but heck he sure acted like he did. So many wonderful memories but such a shame a lot was not played at a higher level with us and against a dire backdrop at times. He held his head up high for us when he could have easily walked away from the mess but he did not. I will break my boycott to ensure he receives a decent send off. I will miss you JJ.
  • Its a shame really that he's retiring @ 35...

    Some players get a few more years and in a way does feel like he's going two years too soon
  • Top Man and will go down as a Charlton Legend. Deserves a great send off as a player and I hope he is a round under new ownership in some capacity proper Mr Charlton and by god do we need him