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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,420
    Fumbluff said:

    whats happened to Red Bull ????Whats happened to Redhenrys 5/5

    Unfortunately @Redhenry 's 5-star split up in the late '80's, I think one had a drunk issue and maybe one was caught putting something where he shouldn't, I forget now...
    They were "System Addicks" though ;)
  • smurfd
    smurfd Posts: 162

    Davo55 said:

    Frank Muir was born in Ramsgate, just like... er .... Valley Express. So that proves it. Muir’s your man.

    Just up the coast from Deal....spooky
    And he used to love a sandwich. That clinches it.
    Things are hotting up then. Getting much Walmer.
    But they might need time to Reculver.
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,701
    We don't need Man City money though, yeah it would be nice but we need an owner who will provide us with adequate money for the manager to spend and isnt a complete bellend!! Just an owner who understands football and the customers fans!
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    It's getting a bit like the In To The Valley forum here.
  • They can have all the money they want... but if they worry about debt reduction more than team investment like Muir did at Rangers and don't want to spend some of that hundreds of millions.... then they might as well be paupers.

    I can't resist. Why would they be worried about the debt when they can just add that to the enterprise value of the club?
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    Taxi_Lad said:

    Anyone thought of this scenario? RD realises when trying to sell the club that KM has made a fucking mess, so he lets her go and brings in Donald Muir as a turnaround specialist to see if he can reduce the debt to enable RD to sell later at a price more acceptable to him. DM may have asked McLeish to run his eye over the playing side of things to see what can be done.
    WE MIGHT BE STUCK WITH RD FOR A WHILE YET!!!!!!

    I posted the very same thing about 3 hours ago. Just shows nobody reads my bloody posts !!!

    I give up.
    The fact the three people posted roughly the same thing doesn’t make it right.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657

    They can have all the money they want... but if they worry about debt reduction more than team investment like Muir did at Rangers and don't want to spend some of that hundreds of millions.... then they might as well be paupers.

    I can't resist. Why would they be worried about the debt when they can just add that to the enterprise value of the club?
    Because Muir has a history of being obsessed with debt reduction and RD does not. And until I hear from Muir's mouth that he no longer is obsessed with such things, and instead wants Charlton to move up the leagues and plans to invest money in the club, I have a right to worry.

    In fact, anyone who does not read this article without some trepidation about what Muir wants from CAFC, needs to take off the rose colored glasses.

    Maybe he wants something different with CAFC. Not impossible. But given his track record, I will worry first and celebrate, later.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/13050158.Donald_Muir__the_bank_s_inside_man_at_Ibrox__has_questions_to_answer/
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    JamesSeed said:

    Taxi_Lad said:

    Anyone thought of this scenario? RD realises when trying to sell the club that KM has made a fucking mess, so he lets her go and brings in Donald Muir as a turnaround specialist to see if he can reduce the debt to enable RD to sell later at a price more acceptable to him. DM may have asked McLeish to run his eye over the playing side of things to see what can be done.
    WE MIGHT BE STUCK WITH RD FOR A WHILE YET!!!!!!

    I posted the very same thing about 3 hours ago. Just shows nobody reads my bloody posts !!!

    I give up.
    The fact the three people posted roughly the same thing doesn’t make it right.
    Not saying that I'm right - I was merely surmising, although I just wish some people might actually read some posts before posting the same thing a few hours later.
  • They can have all the money they want... but if they worry about debt reduction more than team investment like Muir did at Rangers and don't want to spend some of that hundreds of millions.... then they might as well be paupers.

    I can't resist. Why would they be worried about the debt when they can just add that to the enterprise value of the club?
    Because Muir has a history of being obsessed with debt reduction and RD does not. And until I hear from Muir's mouth that he no longer is obsessed with such things, and instead wants Charlton to move up the leagues and plans to invest money in the club, I have a right to worry.

    In fact, anyone who does not read this article without some trepidation about what Muir wants from CAFC, needs to take off the rose colored glasses.

    Maybe he wants something different with CAFC. Not impossible. But given his track record, I will worry first and celebrate, later.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/13050158.Donald_Muir__the_bank_s_inside_man_at_Ibrox__has_questions_to_answer/
    But he wouldn't be working for Lloyd's if he came here. Unless he was appointed by one of our creditors... So who would you worry that he was reducing the debt on behalf of?
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    Muir was working for Lloyds and reduced the debt considerably from 33m to 18m and they got their money back. Then Rangers got sold to Whyte and Muir departed. I bet Lloyds were chuffed with their employee.
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  • I'm not going to be popular with this comment
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885

    I'm not going to be popular with this comment

    C'mon spit it out, don't be shy :wink:
  • Taxi_Lad
    Taxi_Lad Posts: 3,767
    You won't be popular if you leave it there
  • I'm not going to be popular with this comment

    Yes it was a bit dull to earn much popularity!
  • bertpalmer
    bertpalmer Posts: 1,774

    I'm not going to be popular with this comment

    Yes it was a bit dull to earn much popularity!
    is that a anagram ? red bull int as in international
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,723
    This thread has now passed 1 million views.

    Chinese anyone?
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,269
    edited January 2018

    This thread has now passed 1 million views.

    Chinese anyone?

    Sure, if you're paying, I'll have crispy seaweed, beef in black bean sauce, shredded duck and pancakes, egg fried rice and some spare ribs please mate
  • This thread has now passed 1 million views.

    Chinese anyone?

    Not unless they have a representative called "Muir"
  • cafc_will
    cafc_will Posts: 233
    69. Carson Yeung with satay sauce
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  • sam3110 said:

    This thread has now passed 1 million views.

    Chinese anyone?

    Sure, if you're paying, I'll have crispy seaweed, beef in black bean sauce, shredded duck and pancakes, egg fried rice and some spare ribs please mate
    Disappointed with the lack of salt and pepper chicken
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited January 2018
    Swiss Ramble, who provides the best financial evaluations of teams around, put one out about BHA around Christmas. He calculates that Tony Bloom spent £279M of his own money to fund their Premier League push. That is some commitment!
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  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    And this shows what fans will do when you show commitment as an owner.
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  • And this shows what fans will do when you show commitment as an owner.
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    What year did they move to the new stadium?
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited January 2018
    2011, I believe. But by that time, he had owned the club 2 years and he is the one who helped fund the stadium. Stadiums don't build themselves. If new owners were to put some money into finally redoing Jimmy Seed or even just fixing the potholes in the parking lot, fix the leaks in the roof and adding hot water to the bathrooms (three things I have heard people here specifically mention) and getting the academy final phase (which is where most of the real costs of the development are embedded, btw,) I believe it would pay off in attendances. Fans react to owners they know are committed to the club with their own funds. And, obviously, they also react to owners who do the opposite.

    I don't need our new owners to spend £279M, but when I look at other clubs that have come from where we are and have stayed in the PL a while, I think of Watford (£63M invested through 2015) and Leicester (Vichai Srivaddhanapraba stated he was committing £180M.) BHA is another to add to this success list. And I think, realistically, we will need the same kind of £60-100M+ kind of funding those clubs did to achieve the same, that is, getting to and staying in the PL.
  • Cant see how it’s possible that McLeish and Muir have the money. It can’t just be them wanting to buy the club no matter how much nous and expertise they have. They must have a monied backer.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,981
    FORD said:

    We're currently owned by someone who relied on:
    * A teenagers with a spreadsheet as our chief scout
    * A lawyer with no football or management experience as our CEO
    * Belgium 3rd tier football managers with zero experience of British football.

    Whilst I'll remain cautious about anyone who takes over, I think we need to recall the mad decisions of our current owner before doom and gloom starts.

    Exactly. You can’t blame people being concerned after the last 7 years but a bit of normality back at the club and people through the turnstiles would be a start.
  • Sorry about last comment . comp went down before I finished .
    I think new owners who ever they maybe will sell the valley and move us to a new ground on the peninsula
    The only way we can ever get back to prem .
    I love Charlton and would hate to see us leave the valley . but it might be a case of one step back and two forward
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