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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • bobcafc7
    bobcafc7 Posts: 447
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Cant see how it’s possible that McLeish and Muir have the money. It can’t just be them wanting to buy the club no matter how much nous and expertise they have. They must have a monied backer.

    McLeish from what i have heard is just for the football side of things but Muir is putting money in with other people, it’s all going through and being finalised but won’t be until early February.
  • DOC64
    DOC64 Posts: 333
    bobcafc7 said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Cant see how it’s possible that McLeish and Muir have the money. It can’t just be them wanting to buy the club no matter how much nous and expertise they have. They must have a monied backer.

    McLeish from what i have heard is just for the football side of things but Muir is putting money in with other people, it’s all going through and being finalised but won’t be until early February.
    Have heard the same. AM is fronting the bid.
  • alan dugdale
    alan dugdale Posts: 3,077
    DOC64 said:

    bobcafc7 said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Cant see how it’s possible that McLeish and Muir have the money. It can’t just be them wanting to buy the club no matter how much nous and expertise they have. They must have a monied backer.

    McLeish from what i have heard is just for the football side of things but Muir is putting money in with other people, it’s all going through and being finalised but won’t be until early February.
    Have heard the same. AM is fronting the bid.
    Andy Murray ?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    FORD said:

    We're currently owned by someone who relied on:
    * A teenagers with a spreadsheet as our chief scout
    * A lawyer with no football or management experience as our CEO
    * Belgium 3rd tier football managers with zero experience of British football.

    Whilst I'll remain cautious about anyone who takes over, I think we need to recall the mad decisions of our current owner before doom and gloom starts.

    You've obviously forgotten about this.

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  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,365
    Charltonstu said:

    Sorry about last comment . comp went down before I finished .
    I think new owners who ever they maybe will sell the valley and move us to a new ground on the peninsula
    The only way we can ever get back to prem .
    I love Charlton and would hate to see us leave the valley . but it might be a case of one step back and two forward

    If we could get a deal done like West Ham, that would give us a considerable advantage. But those deals rarely happen in the real world, unless you have people working for you in government.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    DOC64 said:

    bobcafc7 said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Cant see how it’s possible that McLeish and Muir have the money. It can’t just be them wanting to buy the club no matter how much nous and expertise they have. They must have a monied backer.

    McLeish from what i have heard is just for the football side of things but Muir is putting money in with other people, it’s all going through and being finalised but won’t be until early February.
    Have heard the same. AM is fronting the bid.
    Presumably you mean DM as in Donald Muir ? And when you say fronting then it means it’s money from another as yet unknown party ?

  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,379
    edited January 2018
    .
    charltonkeston said:

    Charltonstu said:

    Sorry about last comment . comp went down before I finished .
    I think new owners who ever they maybe will sell the valley and move us to a new ground on the peninsula
    The only way we can ever get back to prem .
    I love Charlton and would hate to see us leave the valley . but it might be a case of one step back and two forward

    If we could get a deal done like West Ham, that would give us a considerable advantage. But those deals rarely happen in the real world, unless you have people working for you in government.
    I have always been curious about the thinking of those that couldn’t bear to see the valley moved elsewhere. If your family moves to a new house is it not still your family? Do you memories of the Valley vanish? Genuine question and I am not critical just curious . To be fair (voice drops to a whisper) I have only been to the valley 4 times. For me the club is the people on here and in the valley not the bricks and mortar. I’d expect that they’d bring elements of the old stadium with them.
  • DOC64
    DOC64 Posts: 333
    Alex McLeish, who apparently was uncertain as of the start of the week as to whether he wanted to be involved. The fact that he returned for the Oxford game would suggest that he has committed.

  • Charlton_Stu
    Charlton_Stu Posts: 3,868
    DOC64 said:

    Alex McLeish, who apparently was uncertain as of the start of the week as to whether he wanted to be involved. The fact that he returned for the Oxford game would suggest that he has committed.

    Alex Mcleish is also best mate's with Donald Muir, so is probably just advising him on the football side of things.
  • RedMist
    RedMist Posts: 1,404
    FORD said:

    We're currently owned by someone who relied on:
    * A teenagers with a spreadsheet as our chief scout
    * A lawyer with no football or management experience as our CEO
    * Belgium 3rd tier football managers with zero experience of British football.

    Whilst I'll remain cautious about anyone who takes over, I think we need to recall the mad decisions of our current owner before doom and gloom starts.

    This absolutely.
    Understandable caution but to have football people would be wonderful.
    Always look on the bright side of life as you down your Bucky bomb.
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  • DOC64
    DOC64 Posts: 333
    They will no doubt be working in unison. The expression regarding McLeish given to me was that he had been asked to be 'front man'. As stated elsewhere, he would be advising on the football side.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    DOC64 said:

    Alex McLeish, who apparently was uncertain as of the start of the week as to whether he wanted to be involved. The fact that he returned for the Oxford game would suggest that he has committed.

    I'm surprised he came back after the Oldham game!
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,679
    DOC64 said:

    They will no doubt be working in unison. The expression regarding McLeish given to me was that he had been asked to be 'front man'. As stated elsewhere, he would be advising on the football side.

    Having watched our last two home games that should keep him very busy
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    bobcafc7 said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Cant see how it’s possible that McLeish and Muir have the money. It can’t just be them wanting to buy the club no matter how much nous and expertise they have. They must have a monied backer.

    McLeish from what i have heard is just for the football side of things but Muir is putting money in with other people, it’s all going through and being finalised but won’t be until early February.
    that doesn't stack up for me. If as you say it's being finalised then it sounds imminent to me. Also, why would you attend two games in four days, one a non-event, if completion of a deal isn't close. They would know that once they stuck their heads above the parapet all 'hell' would break loose. With the 'suits' over from Belgium, Roland admitting he doesn't deal with M & A's etc himself, and a meeting rumoured for today then it suggests to me a deal is close.



  • cafcwill
    cafcwill Posts: 1,287
    LargeAddick said:

    bobcafc7 said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Cant see how it’s possible that McLeish and Muir have the money. It can’t just be them wanting to buy the club no matter how much nous and expertise they have. They must have a monied backer.

    McLeish from what i have heard is just for the football side of things but Muir is putting money in with other people, it’s all going through and being finalised but won’t be until early February.
    that doesn't stack up for me. If as you say it's being finalised then it sounds imminent to me. Also, why would you attend two games in four days, one a non-event, if completion of a deal isn't close. They would know that once they stuck their heads above the parapet all 'hell' would break loose. With the 'suits' over from Belgium, Roland admitting he doesn't deal with M & A's etc himself, and a meeting rumoured for today then it suggests to me a deal is close.



    I've read on here and the dark side that apparently the timescale is 10 days

    But there is nothing to confirm this in anyway shape or form

    do we have a gif for this?
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638
    cafcwill said:

    LargeAddick said:

    bobcafc7 said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Cant see how it’s possible that McLeish and Muir have the money. It can’t just be them wanting to buy the club no matter how much nous and expertise they have. They must have a monied backer.

    McLeish from what i have heard is just for the football side of things but Muir is putting money in with other people, it’s all going through and being finalised but won’t be until early February.
    that doesn't stack up for me. If as you say it's being finalised then it sounds imminent to me. Also, why would you attend two games in four days, one a non-event, if completion of a deal isn't close. They would know that once they stuck their heads above the parapet all 'hell' would break loose. With the 'suits' over from Belgium, Roland admitting he doesn't deal with M & A's etc himself, and a meeting rumoured for today then it suggests to me a deal is close.



    I've read on here and the dark side that apparently the timescale is 10 days

    But there is nothing to confirm this in anyway shape or form

    do we have a gif for this?
    image
  • bobcafc7
    bobcafc7 Posts: 447
    LargeAddick said:

    bobcafc7 said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Cant see how it’s possible that McLeish and Muir have the money. It can’t just be them wanting to buy the club no matter how much nous and expertise they have. They must have a monied backer.

    McLeish from what i have heard is just for the football side of things but Muir is putting money in with other people, it’s all going through and being finalised but won’t be until early February.
    that doesn't stack up for me. If as you say it's being finalised then it sounds imminent to me. Also, why would you attend two games in four days, one a non-event, if completion of a deal isn't close. They would know that once they stuck their heads above the parapet all 'hell' would break loose. With the 'suits' over from Belgium, Roland admitting he doesn't deal with M & A's etc himself, and a meeting rumoured for today then it suggests to me a deal is close.



    That’s what I’ve been told from someone very close to the deal so only passing on information I just said I hope it’s done in January for new signings but he said it’s doubtful.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    I can’t see the maths in a move. The Valley is hardly a fantastic development site in a sought after area after all. Would there be cash over after you have sold the ground, bought another site and built another stadium?

    It would need land to be given to us and would have to include other revenue streams to make it worthwhile, and if it did, I would be OK with it.

    I could see a joint development with Millwall being an option that would come up!
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,679
    Redrobo said:

    I can’t see the maths in a move. The Valley is hardly a fantastic development site in a sought after area after all. Would there be cash over after you have sold the ground, bought another site and built another stadium?

    It would need land to be given to us and would have to include other revenue streams to make it worthwhile, and if it did, I would be OK with it.

    I could see a joint development with Millwall being an option that would come up!

    FUCK THAT
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  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,312
    Doesn't sit right with me this bid, don't know why.
  • catfordmorry
    catfordmorry Posts: 556
    I’ve been abducted by aliens for a few days and come back to this thread on page 260. Give me a break and don’t post anything until I’ve read the next 44 pages, the exception being if the takeover is announced.

    Note for NapaAddick:
    You’re exempt from this, I’m always mesmerised by your posts, which is probably why I was abducted by aliens.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    Redrobo said:

    I can’t see the maths in a move. The Valley is hardly a fantastic development site in a sought after area after all. Would there be cash over after you have sold the ground, bought another site and built another stadium?

    It would need land to be given to us and would have to include other revenue streams to make it worthwhile, and if it did, I would be OK with it.

    I could see a joint development with Millwall being an option that would come up!

    One half of the ground would need to kitted out as blue padded cells and the other half seats with blankets.
  • MeebaumAzanitch
    MeebaumAzanitch Posts: 605
    Am worried now. Hope the new owners will keep us at The Valley. So many memories - good and bad. If we do get moved to another ground, can I get back my 2 commemorative bricks dedicated to my 2 uncles or will they have a ceremony to move them to the new location!
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited January 2018
    The threat of the ground being sold has been done to death over and over and the drawbacks of planning, clearance, redevelopment, access, services, an alternative site and not to mention the ACV and ex directors legal charges that still prevent dealings in the land at this juncture.

    Now that's not to say that all of those issues couldn't be overcome in time but would there be enough profit in it? I wouldn't concern yourselves too much right now.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited January 2018
    Shrew said:

    KiwiValley said:

    .

    charltonkeston said:

    Charltonstu said:

    Sorry about last comment . comp went down before I finished .
    I think new owners who ever they maybe will sell the valley and move us to a new ground on the peninsula
    The only way we can ever get back to prem .
    I love Charlton and would hate to see us leave the valley . but it might be a case of one step back and two forward

    If we could get a deal done like West Ham, that would give us a considerable advantage. But those deals rarely happen in the real world, unless you have people working for you in government.
    I have always been curious about the thinking of those that couldn’t bear to see the valley moved elsewhere. If your family moves to a new house is it not still your family? Do you memories of the Valley vanish? Genuine question and I am not critical just curious . To be fair (voice drops to a whisper) I have only been to the valley 4 times. For me the club is the people on here and in the valley not the bricks and mortar. I’d expect that they’d bring elements of the old stadium with them.
    It’s a special place for me ,full of a lot of brilliant and a fair few awful memories. , it is full of memories of being with my dad , friends and fellow supporters from 1967 onwards. The walk from, the car , through the park, the pitch and stadium are part of who I am. The fight to keep the valley was a fight for part of my home. The majority of stadiums are soulless meccano kits, I would hate Charlton to move from the valley. To limply trade our home for the premiership in my view is naive to think somehow that would wave a magic wand, and also goes along with the awful and soulless future that is being created for football. The valley is a brilliant ground to watch top class football in , the only reason to move is greed.
    Well said.

    The Valley provides continuity, which many clubs now envy (West Ham for example). Staff and players change all the time. The thread that holds it all together is The Valley.
    I don't believe you can trade our home for the premiership. Even if a move gave the club slightly improved financial stability, nothing is guaranteed in football. You might end up drifting between the Championship and League One (or even lower), in a stadium with no soul. Now wouldn't that be a shame, because there'd be no going back.
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    We aren't going to move Stadium.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    cfgs said:

    Redrobo said:

    I can’t see the maths in a move. The Valley is hardly a fantastic development site in a sought after area after all. Would there be cash over after you have sold the ground, bought another site and built another stadium?

    It would need land to be given to us and would have to include other revenue streams to make it worthwhile, and if it did, I would be OK with it.

    I could see a joint development with Millwall being an option that would come up!

    One half of the ground would need to kitted out as blue padded cells and the other half seats with blankets.
    One half the white of millwall, the other half red.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,981
    LargeAddick said:

    bobcafc7 said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Cant see how it’s possible that McLeish and Muir have the money. It can’t just be them wanting to buy the club no matter how much nous and expertise they have. They must have a monied backer.

    McLeish from what i have heard is just for the football side of things but Muir is putting money in with other people, it’s all going through and being finalised but won’t be until early February.
    that doesn't stack up for me. If as you say it's being finalised then it sounds imminent to me. Also, why would you attend two games in four days, one a non-event, if completion of a deal isn't close. They would know that once they stuck their heads above the parapet all 'hell' would break loose. With the 'suits' over from Belgium, Roland admitting he doesn't deal with M & A's etc himself, and a meeting rumoured for today then it suggests to me a deal is close.

    The beginning of Feb is only 3 weeks away. We only play 1 more home game until then.
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