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Chris Powell to Southend? (Confirmed P4)

TEL
TEL Posts: 10,100
edited January 2018 in General Charlton
Im suprised that Chris hasnt been in the hot seat since Huddersfield and read somewhere recently he was scouting for Spurs....surprised he hasnt been snapped up by a lower league club, but seems Southend are about to announce him......

Now if potential new owners were savvy, they would have him lined up in a position already....who better than to unite our fanbase?
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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    Good luck to him. They have a team set up to play 4-4-2 with one wide player and one more narrow, the way he likes it.

    That said, I hope one day we separate the idea of uniting the fan base and appointing Chris Powell. I think there are other ways to do it and I think it provides for a very narrow definition of success from new ownership.
  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    SDAddick said:

    Good luck to him. They have a team set up to play 4-4-2 with one wide player and one more narrow, the way he likes it.

    That said, I hope one day we separate the idea of uniting the fan base and appointing Chris Powell. I think there are other ways to do it and I think it provides for a very narrow definition of success from new ownership.

    More to the point I think it will bring people back onside very quickly and boost or awful attendances. I cant think of anyone better personally......not saying necessarily as manager as I think he would make a better number 2 or Director of football, but we need someone who knows the club and fan base.
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596
    The dream ticket of Varney, Curbs and Powell vanishes before our eyes.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    edited January 2018
    It's a shame his career never kicked on (so far) after leaving here.

    The Hudds gig seems to have defined him more than our title winning season.

    His legacy with us goes far beyond his management stint - good as it was.

    Do we overrate him? Is he underrated by others like Hudds? Somewhere in the middle?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376

    It's a shame his career never kicked on (so far) after leaving here.

    The Hudds gig seems to have defined him more than our title winning season.

    His legacy with us goes far beyond his management stint - good as it was.

    Do we overrate him? Is he underrated by others like Hudds? Somewhere in the middle?

    Huddersfield aren't a big club at Championship level. He kept them up so while he didn't impress there he didn't completely fail. If he was as bad as some believe he'd have got them relegated. They then replaced him with someone that turned out to be the perfect fit for them and a very good manager.

    Some didn't like his style of football but he never had the budget to improve the team after the title winning season. It was far more important to get out of League 1 than play attractive football. It's not as if he played out and out long ball either.
  • SCP did a great job under the circumstances, read the Jimenez/Cash court case just to get an idea of what he was working with and the restraints he was under.

    We was always going to struggle in 13/14 as we didn't have any investment in the squad.
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  • WSA
    WSA Posts: 1,913
    I hope he finds a good reason not to take the job at Southend.
  • NO! Don't do it Chris. We need you back here.
  • Daddy_Pig
    Daddy_Pig Posts: 496

    It's a shame his career never kicked on (so far) after leaving here.

    The Hudds gig seems to have defined him more than our title winning season.

    His legacy with us goes far beyond his management stint - good as it was.

    Do we overrate him? Is he underrated by others like Hudds? Somewhere in the middle?

    Was given money here and won the league with a record number of points.

    Went to huddersfield with a limited budget and had his best players sold from underneath him. New guy comes in and is given a load of money and gets them promoted.

    All this big club little club stuff is a red herring. You're as big as your budget and huddersfield weren't a small budget team when they went up.

    If you want to see why British managers aren't given a chance then look at Huddersfield. They had a stellar run between December and February. They kept 'blowing teams away' but finished with a negative GD. They then defended their way through the playoffs and won on penalties. Since being promoted they cant score (19 in 23) or keep hold of the ball for longer than 2 passes. But they've got Wagner in charge and he's a miracle worker who just oozes attractive football.


  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,208
    BART come back...come back...
  • Daarrzzetbum
    Daarrzzetbum Posts: 1,236
    yup he was great for us, however............................................................no going back & move on - I wish him great sucsses.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    I'd go back. So long as he's funded, he's a very good manager.
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    I have this quandary about Powell, if he is such a good manager why the hell hasn't he been managing a club?
    I understand that Curbs is persona non grata with football clubs and will possibly never manage again, but Powell?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Greenie said:

    I have this quandary about Powell, if he is such a good manager why the hell hasn't he been managing a club?
    I understand that Curbs is persona non grata with football clubs and will possibly never manage again, but Powell?

    He needs to be fully funded to be successful IMO.
  • Greenie said:

    I have this quandary about Powell, if he is such a good manager why the hell hasn't he been managing a club?
    I understand that Curbs is persona non grata with football clubs and will possibly never manage again, but Powell?

    Cos some football club owners as well as some supporters are clueless
  • Dazzler21 said:

    Greenie said:

    I have this quandary about Powell, if he is such a good manager why the hell hasn't he been managing a club?
    I understand that Curbs is persona non grata with football clubs and will possibly never manage again, but Powell?

    He needs to be fully funded to be successful IMO.
    Whats fully funded and what's successful ,
    were we fully funded when we finished 9th season after promotion
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  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172

    Greenie said:

    I have this quandary about Powell, if he is such a good manager why the hell hasn't he been managing a club?
    I understand that Curbs is persona non grata with football clubs and will possibly never manage again, but Powell?

    Cos some football club owners as well as some supporters are clueless
    Helpful comment and gives answers.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344

    Dazzler21 said:

    Greenie said:

    I have this quandary about Powell, if he is such a good manager why the hell hasn't he been managing a club?
    I understand that Curbs is persona non grata with football clubs and will possibly never manage again, but Powell?

    He needs to be fully funded to be successful IMO.
    Whats fully funded and what's successful ,
    were we fully funded when we finished 9th season after promotion
    We weren't forced to sell any key players were we? I'd say Powell was happy with that squad, and they were carrying confidence from being promoted.

    The next season when we didn't have any funding, things went far less smoothly...
  • Daddy_Pig said:

    It's a shame his career never kicked on (so far) after leaving here.

    The Hudds gig seems to have defined him more than our title winning season.

    His legacy with us goes far beyond his management stint - good as it was.

    Do we overrate him? Is he underrated by others like Hudds? Somewhere in the middle?

    Was given money here and won the league with a record number of points.

    Went to huddersfield with a limited budget and had his best players sold from underneath him. New guy comes in and is given a load of money and gets them promoted.

    All this big club little club stuff is a red herring. You're as big as your budget and huddersfield weren't a small budget team when they went up.


    If you want to see why British managers aren't given a chance then look at Huddersfield. They had a stellar run between December and February. They kept 'blowing teams away' but finished with a negative GD. They then defended their way through the playoffs and won on penalties. Since being promoted they cant score (19 in 23) or keep hold of the ball for longer than 2 passes. But they've got Wagner in charge and he's a miracle worker who just oozes attractive football.
    You couldn't be more wrong here. Huddersfield spent next to nothing in getting promoted, had a tiny playing budget and were amongst the pre-season favourites to be struggling.

    If you look at this you'll see they spent a huge 1.3m last season and made a profit the year before!

    http://www.transferleague.co.uk/huddersfield-town/english-football-teams/huddersfield-town-transfers

    To say Wagner was given loads of money and didn't have a small budget simply isn't true.
  • Dazzler21 said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Greenie said:

    I have this quandary about Powell, if he is such a good manager why the hell hasn't he been managing a club?
    I understand that Curbs is persona non grata with football clubs and will possibly never manage again, but Powell?

    He needs to be fully funded to be successful IMO.
    Whats fully funded and what's successful ,
    were we fully funded when we finished 9th season after promotion
    We weren't forced to sell any key players were we? I'd say Powell was happy with that squad, and they were carrying confidence from being promoted.

    The next season when we didn't have any funding, things went far less smoothly...
    So not being forced to sell key players you'd consider being fully funded , I think we stood still as a squad that season
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    A done deal according to my source.
  • A done deal according to my source.

    S**t. I really, really wanted him to come back under the new ownership as soon as Roland effs off.
  • Dazzler21 said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Greenie said:

    I have this quandary about Powell, if he is such a good manager why the hell hasn't he been managing a club?
    I understand that Curbs is persona non grata with football clubs and will possibly never manage again, but Powell?

    He needs to be fully funded to be successful IMO.
    Whats fully funded and what's successful ,
    were we fully funded when we finished 9th season after promotion
    We weren't forced to sell any key players were we? I'd say Powell was happy with that squad, and they were carrying confidence from being promoted.

    The next season when we didn't have any funding, things went far less smoothly...
    We weren’t that well funded after promotion - there was little money for reinforcements, hence Jordan Cook, Salim Kerkar, Dorian Dervite, etc.

    Before the money was withdrawn, we were being linked with players like Sone Aluko and Richie De Laet, so one wonders what could’ve been
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344

    Dazzler21 said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Greenie said:

    I have this quandary about Powell, if he is such a good manager why the hell hasn't he been managing a club?
    I understand that Curbs is persona non grata with football clubs and will possibly never manage again, but Powell?

    He needs to be fully funded to be successful IMO.
    Whats fully funded and what's successful ,
    were we fully funded when we finished 9th season after promotion
    We weren't forced to sell any key players were we? I'd say Powell was happy with that squad, and they were carrying confidence from being promoted.

    The next season when we didn't have any funding, things went far less smoothly...
    So not being forced to sell key players you'd consider being fully funded , I think we stood still as a squad that season
    Compared to this lot, yes...
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600

    Daddy_Pig said:

    It's a shame his career never kicked on (so far) after leaving here.

    The Hudds gig seems to have defined him more than our title winning season.

    His legacy with us goes far beyond his management stint - good as it was.

    Do we overrate him? Is he underrated by others like Hudds? Somewhere in the middle?

    Was given money here and won the league with a record number of points.

    Went to huddersfield with a limited budget and had his best players sold from underneath him. New guy comes in and is given a load of money and gets them promoted.

    All this big club little club stuff is a red herring. You're as big as your budget and huddersfield weren't a small budget team when they went up.


    If you want to see why British managers aren't given a chance then look at Huddersfield. They had a stellar run between December and February. They kept 'blowing teams away' but finished with a negative GD. They then defended their way through the playoffs and won on penalties. Since being promoted they cant score (19 in 23) or keep hold of the ball for longer than 2 passes. But they've got Wagner in charge and he's a miracle worker who just oozes attractive football.
    You couldn't be more wrong here. Huddersfield spent next to nothing in getting promoted, had a tiny playing budget and were amongst the pre-season favourites to be struggling.

    If you look at this you'll see they spent a huge 1.3m last season and made a profit the year before!

    http://www.transferleague.co.uk/huddersfield-town/english-football-teams/huddersfield-town-transfers

    To say Wagner was given loads of money and didn't have a small budget simply isn't true.
    He did really well with loans as well. 2 from Chelsea and one from Man City.
  • Southend will be a tough job - hard to push on. Wish him well.