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2018 January Transfer Window Rumours Thread (DEADLINE DAY from Page 56)

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  • Good transfer window that, astonished Konsa is still here, mind you glad that he is, strikers aplenty, if we start scoring more goals we will be in top 6, simple as that.
  • http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15913116.Charlton_turned_down_interest_in_Fosu_and_Magennis_on_transfer_deadline_day_via_emails_with_Roland_Duchatelet/?ref=mr&lp=5

    It's interesting that emails were going back and forth to Roland last night concerning bids for Mogennis and Fosu
    Robinson and head of recruitment Steven Gallen were communicating with owner Roland Duchatelet via email last night.

    The Belgian had the final say on who came and who left.

    Robinson added: “I spoke to Roland with Steve Gallen via email more than I’ve ever spoken to him. Richard Murray was fighting on the Charlton side of it.

    “The lads were in there when we were receiving emails and the emails were very clear and very precise, ‘no, he stays’ or one of them was ‘what do you want to do?’ and I said I wanted to keep them. That was it.”
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    No way was Holmes our best performing player at the point in time when HE WAS SOLD.

    Holmes had been average at best for a few months, after previously being excellent and without doubt our best player.

    Whether this was due to his bruised foot earlier in the season, knowing Sheff U would come back in for him or whatever reason, I don't know.

    But I do know in the last few months he continually ran into cul de sacs, he couldn't make a decent cross, take a decent corner and stopped scoring from free kicks.

    I loved Ricky but most fans saw he was completely off form.
    Still the best player this season as voted for by fellow lifers up to his last game v Oldham on the 6th January.

    http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/80491/statbank-charlton-1-0-oldham#latest
  • edited February 2018
    shirty5 said:

    Still the best player this season as voted for by fellow lifers up to his last game v Oldham on the 6th January.

    http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/80491/statbank-charlton-1-0-oldham#latest
    Thanks Shirty. Confirms what I said. Last season Holmes was MOM on many occasions and if he wasn't MOM he was pretty close.

    In the stats you've linked v Oldham he was 7th best !

    I looked up the previous game v Gillingham and he was 5th best !

    I'll admit I looked at one further game v Southend and he was MOM, so the average in those 3 games = 4th best.

    Like I said, I loved Ricky and wanted him to stay but he hadn't performed anywhere near his best for a good few months.
  • No way was Holmes our best performing player at the point in time when HE WAS SOLD.

    Holmes had been average at best for a few months, after previously being excellent and without doubt our best player.

    Whether this was due to his bruised foot earlier in the season, knowing Sheff U would come back in for him or whatever reason, I don't know.

    But I do know in the last few months he continually ran into cul de sacs, he couldn't make a decent cross, take a decent corner and stopped scoring from free kicks.

    I loved Ricky but most fans saw he was completely off form.
    Ah right - I think we're talking about different things. You're saying Ricky Holmes wasn't the most in form player, I agree with that. I'm saying that he was our best player (even if he wasn't playing at top form).
  • From Robinsons quote yesterday, does anyone know the ‘we got a lot of young players out on loan’ are? Archie Edwards, Karlan who else?
  • edited February 2018

    No way was Holmes our best performing player at the point in time when HE WAS SOLD.

    Holmes had been average at best for a few months, after previously being excellent and without doubt our best player.

    Whether this was due to his bruised foot earlier in the season, knowing Sheff U would come back in for him or whatever reason, I don't know.

    But I do know in the last few months he continually ran into cul de sacs, he couldn't make a decent cross, take a decent corner and stopped scoring from free kicks.

    I loved Ricky but most fans saw he was completely off form.
    Agreed, he'd hit a dip in form, nothing more. And I don't necessarily think it was because he wanted away, he was playing a team with far fewer attacking threats than earlier in the season and that absolutely compounded some of his weaknesses and let teams double up on him. I think he'd look better with Fosu and Mav in the team if he were still with us.

    All things being equal I have JFC, Kashi, and Fosu above him, as mentioned earlier in the thread. That would have been true in, say, September, not just with hindsight. I've never rated Ricky quite as highly as some, but that's not to say Ricky is not a great player at this level and that he wasn't a great player for this club. Just ad I can't at all fault him his move, I will always have fond memories of him, including some absolute crackers.
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  • No way was Holmes our best performing player at the point in time when HE WAS SOLD.

    Holmes had been average at best for a few months, after previously being excellent and without doubt our best player.

    Whether this was due to his bruised foot earlier in the season, knowing Sheff U would come back in for him or whatever reason, I don't know.

    But I do know in the last few months he continually ran into cul de sacs, he couldn't make a decent cross, take a decent corner and stopped scoring from free kicks.

    I loved Ricky but most fans saw he was completely off form.
    This. I "liked" the other post saying much the same thing. He was a good player but his form had dipped, along with Magennis, and the things we could previously rely on him doing he was just not producing any more. Shame to see him leave but we move on. With Fosu & Mavididi we have ready made players in that position.
  • From Robinsons quote yesterday, does anyone know the ‘we got a lot of young players out on loan’ are? Archie Edwards, Karlan who else?

    That's it i think but expect Reeco to go out to a National League side.
  • That's it i think but expect Reeco to go out to a National League side.
    Cheers, I mistook the word ‘loads’ should know better :-)
  • Leeds reportedly enquired about Fosu.
    I thought I saw that, cheers for confirming. The "striker" was Magennis, the club was Bolton as confirmed by Large.
  • se9addick said:

    Ah right - I think we're talking about different things. You're saying Ricky Holmes wasn't the most in form player, I agree with that. I'm saying that he was our best player (even if he wasn't playing at top form).
    On that basis we could say Ben Reeves is our best player :wink:
  • That's it i think but expect Reeco to go out to a National League side.
    Charles-Cooke ?
  • Dazzler21 said:

    I thought I saw that, cheers for confirming. The "striker" was Magennis, the club was Bolton as confirmed by Large.
    Just seen an interview on Sky with Phil Parkinson (they are showing Bolton v Bristol City tomorrow night) where he talks about Madine leaving, Seems a bit pissed off that he left without getting a replacement & says it was the chairmans decision even though that would leave them short upfront. I reckon we could have got a good sum for Magennis if we had wanted to, but can see why KR didn't want to let him go, although if we had got Doyle in instead of him going back to Oldham then it would have been a good bit of business imo
  • Just seen an interview on Sky with Phil Parkinson (they are showing Bolton v Bristol City tomorrow night) where he talks about Madine leaving, Seems a bit pissed off that he left without getting a replacement & says it was the chairmans decision even though that would leave them short upfront. I reckon we could have got a good sum for Magennis if we had wanted to, but can see why KR didn't want to let him go, although if we had got Doyle in instead of him going back to Oldham then it would have been a good bit of business imo
    Again, even if we go 10 Million for Magennis it would never be good business, we wouldn't see a penny of it.
  • Just seen an interview on Sky with Phil Parkinson (they are showing Bolton v Bristol City tomorrow night) where he talks about Madine leaving, Seems a bit pissed off that he left without getting a replacement & says it was the chairmans decision even though that would leave them short upfront. I reckon we could have got a good sum for Magennis if we had wanted to, but can see why KR didn't want to let him go, although if we had got Doyle in instead of him going back to Oldham then it would have been a good bit of business imo
    You can't just force someone under contract off the cuff to go and live in Bolton (or anywhere)
    He's got a family.
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  • You can't just force someone under contract off the cuff to go and live in Bolton (or anywhere)
    He's got a family.
    But if they were giving 20K per week for their fourth choice goalkeeper, think how much their striker could have earnt.
  • SDAddick said:

    A great point chef. And in that time we've sold/let go Holmes, Tex, Ceballos, Novak, Crofts, Lookman, Ajose, Watt. There is a lot of saved money in wages and obviously the Lookman and Holmes fees. If nothing else, Karl's transfer activity has been very good.
    We are still contributing to some of those players
  • Redhenry said:

    We are still contributing to some of those players
    Which one of those isn't sold outright? except Ajose? His wages WERE Bury's problem until a couple of days ago. CAFC aren't contributing to any of the rest.
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    Which one of those isn't sold outright? except Ajose? His wages WERE Bury's problem until a couple of days ago. CAFC aren't contributing to any of the rest.
    Igor is the other one I'd guess. Or I'd hope anyway, given as you say the rest are no longer affiliated with us. I guess we could still be paying off their contracts in installments though.

    I didn't list Igor because we was out on loan and remains out on loan. From a playing squad perspective there's no change, and from a balance sheet perspective I guess it depends on how much we're subsidizing.

    And we were apparently subsidizing Ajose's wages at Bury to some degree.
  • edited February 2018

    Just seen an interview on Sky with Phil Parkinson (they are showing Bolton v Bristol City tomorrow night) where he talks about Madine leaving, Seems a bit pissed off that he left without getting a replacement & says it was the chairmans decision even though that would leave them short upfront. I reckon we could have got a good sum for Magennis if we had wanted to, but can see why KR didn't want to let him go, although if we had got Doyle in instead of him going back to Oldham then it would have been a good bit of business imo
    But Doyle can't play until March. And even then I think he can only start full contract training in March so we'd be without him for half of the rest of the season.

    Whatever we could get for Magennis is nowhere near as valuable as getting promoted. I'm also in the pro-Magennis camp and I think he has a lot to offer, and leaving ourselves short up front because of an opportunity to save/make money is exactly what we did in August and everyone, rightly, complained.
  • Is #onegoal all we score per game!
  • Not a terrible window, better than initially anticipated with Holmes going...

    Re: Ajose, i might be the minority but he could be useful if we decide to change the formation and go 442 fora game or switch during a game, obviously unlikely but still he will get more goals then Magdennis although wont get the all round game(kind of lol) so would only work with two up top. Probably wont get a game though Robbo doesn't fancy him

    In the last minute?
  • Interesting graphic from the OS on how they have chosen to position various players

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    At least shows a strength in depth with two players for every position now.
  • At least shows a strength in depth with two players for every position now.
    There has been a bit of back and forth on Robbo's strength as a manager and the performance of the coaching team. Well there is no way on earth that squad shouldnt comfortably get in the play offs in league 1 and frankly be the team to beat in them.

    We shall see how the coming months go.
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