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  • Heard from a member of staff at the club that apprently it's been going around that Robinson is set to leave us within 24 hours

    Predictable I guess.

    Prehaps JJ or JE will do the press conference if true?

    It will ruin the promotion push!
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    Scoham said:

    masicat said:

    I disagree - these players cannot pass a ball 10 yards. Fosu continually makes bad decisions. As for the rest, let’s see where they end up. Da Silva aside, I suspect none of them will play at a high level. The Konsa rumours were rumours.
    We don’t even have a player who can take a free kick or corner.

    Did you rate players such as Jenkinson, Francis, Fox and Pope? I agree some overrate our players but some will improve and progress as they always have done. We've had plenty that have been inconsistent or played when the club was a mess yet gone on to do well at a higher level. I don't see this group being any different, even if it's only 3 or 4 of them that make that step up.
    I did rate all 4. In fact, I rated Fox more than most. That said, I didn’t rate Dale Stephens, so what do I know.
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008

    Heard from a member of staff at the club that apprently it's been going around that Robinson is set to leave us within 24 hours

    Predictable I guess.

    Prehaps JJ or JE will do the press conference if true?

    I bet he doesn’t.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600

    Heard from a member of staff at the club that apprently it's been going around that Robinson is set to leave us within 24 hours

    Predictable I guess.

    Prehaps JJ or JE will do the press conference if true?

    Lianne on reception won’t be happy.
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,255
    edited March 2018
    I have a thought on the resignation drama. Could it be Robinson agreed terms with Oxford but the compensation package to Charlton was too large. So Robbo offered to resign twice to get this out of the way, only to be knocked back by Roland, who wanted his money for a manager he barely remembered. Hence yesterday KR gave the press the okay to tell everyone about the resignations to try and force RD's hand and get the new job at Oxford announced on time. RD just ignored it, and we all went ballistic.
    This theory suggests that as with the takeover, RD 's outrageous demands have blocked everything, like an oversize turd in a small toilet bowl. KR wants out but Oxford can get a manager for free so why pay compensation? And that's why yesterday came and went with Oxford still managerless.
    Just a theory mind.....
  • Good point Ken, I'll be baffled if he is still here Friday

    We are a circus you just couldn't make it up
  • Cafc website and social media is quiet this morning ?
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    This club has been flying in the face of all logic for several years now - so if our resident second hand car salesman/James Corden tribute act leaves, I reckon I'll have a flutter on us winning the playoffs, such is the potential for a totally unexpected new manager bounce...
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited March 2018
    PaddyP17 said:

    This club has been flying in the face of all logic for several years now - so if our resident second hand car salesman/James Corden tribute act leaves, I reckon I'll have a flutter on us winning the playoffs, such is the potential for a totally unexpected new manager bounce...

    Keep the stake low, better still get @seth plum to go halves with you :wink: .
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  • charltonaddickedmatt
    charltonaddickedmatt Posts: 1,257
    edited March 2018

    I’m glad Richard Murray is still here keeping everything together.

    So true.

    Why is Richard still here, he might as well leave now too, everyone might as well take the afternoon off.

    Really feels like nothing matters and this season now feels,officially written off.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited March 2018

    I’m glad Richard Murray is still here keeping everything together.

    He's not stupid mate, it's a sh*t storm so best to keep one's head down in case it ruins his reputation. :smirk:
  • DPFC
    DPFC Posts: 320
    The reason Murray is still here is the fact he has several million at stake
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    DPFC said:

    The reason Murray is still here is the fact he has several million at stake

    So do other former directors, but they aren't on the board.
  • Assuming the Robinson offering to resign story is true then for the first time I actually have some respect for him, seems strange RD would not accept it though, as surely he does not have to pay Robinson anything if it is a resignation?
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    DPFC said:

    The reason Murray is still here is the fact he has several million at stake

    Granted he has £2.4m secured by a debenture but not the sole reason. It's become a way of life being at the top table for so long. An addiction if you like (excuse the pun) which he just can't give up.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,560
    DPFC said:

    The reason Murray is still here is the fact he has several million at stake

    his money is safe as houses, more so in fact, he doesn't need to hang around like a bad smell keeping tabs on it. He has lost ALL credibility with the fans but all he really cares about is the kudos of being a Director. Sad really. If he'd walked and spoken out about Roland he'd be a 'hero' instead and it wouldn't have altered one iota the fact that his money is ring fenced and untouchable. He chose not to do so, he chose wrongly.

  • JamesSeed said:

    I don't think anyone can really blame KR for not walking away without a payout. Most would do the same.

    Seems quite clear from the latest Dr Kish that KR won't be in charge this weekend. I'd happily have JJ in charge till the end of the season. He always gives us a lift when needed

    On the pitch yes. Fans will be more up for it on Saturday. Perhaps more would turn up.
    But from there, who knows how the players will respond, and how he'll perform in the manager's role. I guess we'll find out by the sounds of it. Can't be any worse than the last two matches can it?
    Wasn't it only four matches ago we were happy enough after a decent performance and a win at MKD? How time flies.
    You were happy lots more still wanted him out
  • benjest1989
    benjest1989 Posts: 388
    Is there not a pre-match press conference today?
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  • MrLargo said:

    Assuming the Robinson offering to resign story is true then for the first time I actually have some respect for him, seems strange RD would not accept it though, as surely he does not have to pay Robinson anything if it is a resignation?

    A resignation in football is completely different from a resignation everywhere else. He has offered to leave in return for a significant amount of money - could be three months pay, could be payment for the remainder of his contract or it could just be asking Roland to release him from his contract without demanding any compensation from Oxford. And he's only offered to go because he's got another job ready to walk straight into.

    I'm not sure why this would generate any respect. He's not doing anything noble, he's asking the club for a favour - "please can I be released from my contract that still has roughly 15 months to run?"
    Thanks for clearing that up, when they said resignation, I naively took it to mean resignation not will you pay me my money early please, brief glimmer of respect for him I had is gone.

    Not that I have a problem with him wanting his money, just as you say, it is not a noble gesture or doing the right thing for the club/team in any way at all.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    JamesSeed said:

    I don't think anyone can really blame KR for not walking away without a payout. Most would do the same.

    Seems quite clear from the latest Dr Kish that KR won't be in charge this weekend. I'd happily have JJ in charge till the end of the season. He always gives us a lift when needed

    On the pitch yes. Fans will be more up for it on Saturday. Perhaps more would turn up.
    But from there, who knows how the players will respond, and how he'll perform in the manager's role. I guess we'll find out by the sounds of it. Can't be any worse than the last two matches can it?
    Wasn't it only four matches ago we were happy enough after a decent performance and a win at MKD? How time flies.
    You were happy lots more still wanted him out
    Always happy to go away, and even happier if we win. There was a good turnout at MKD. You were there?

    We hadn’t played well for quite a few matches before MKD, but even against them we were overrun fo mr about 20 mins in the second half, partly because of tactics, partly because we lack balls in midfield and have for some time. That’s down to Roland not allowing recruitment, although I expect you’ll blame Robinson. But hey, never let the facts spoil a good story lol.
  • HarryLime
    HarryLime Posts: 1,295

    Is there not a pre-match press conference today?

    Normally on a Thursday.
    With nobody other than Tone left, he will give a briefing on various sandwich fillings.
  • JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    I don't think anyone can really blame KR for not walking away without a payout. Most would do the same.

    Seems quite clear from the latest Dr Kish that KR won't be in charge this weekend. I'd happily have JJ in charge till the end of the season. He always gives us a lift when needed

    On the pitch yes. Fans will be more up for it on Saturday. Perhaps more would turn up.
    But from there, who knows how the players will respond, and how he'll perform in the manager's role. I guess we'll find out by the sounds of it. Can't be any worse than the last two matches can it?
    Wasn't it only four matches ago we were happy enough after a decent performance and a win at MKD? How time flies.
    You were happy lots more still wanted him out
    Always happy to go away, and even happier if we win. There was a good turnout at MKD. You were there?

    We hadn’t played well for quite a few matches before MKD, but even against them we were overrun fo mr about 20 mins in the second half, partly because of tactics, partly because we lack balls in midfield and have for some time. That’s down to Roland not allowing recruitment, although I expect you’ll blame Robinson. But hey, never let the facts spoil a good story lol.
    No I didn't go the MK because I refuse to give money to a club who cheated there way into the league.
    KR winning one game in a blue moon against a team in the bottom 3 is hardly a great result.
    He supported the owners, knowing that we were a basket case of a club he's words. He's has had three transfer windows and we are no better than we were under Slade. He just makes it up as he goes along. Now it's RD fault because he's not willing to pay him out.

    I moved jobs and never expected to be paid out for jumping ship.

  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    edited March 2018

    MrLargo said:

    Assuming the Robinson offering to resign story is true then for the first time I actually have some respect for him, seems strange RD would not accept it though, as surely he does not have to pay Robinson anything if it is a resignation?

    A resignation in football is completely different from a resignation everywhere else. He has offered to leave in return for a significant amount of money - could be three months pay, could be payment for the remainder of his contract or it could just be asking Roland to release him from his contract without demanding any compensation from Oxford. And he's only offered to go because he's got another job ready to walk straight into.

    I'm not sure why this would generate any respect. He's not doing anything noble, he's asking the club for a favour - "please can I be released from my contract that still has roughly 15 months to run?"
    Thanks for clearing that up, when they said resignation, I naively took it to mean resignation not will you pay me my money early please, brief glimmer of respect for him I had is gone.

    Not that I have a problem with him wanting his money, just as you say, it is not a noble gesture or doing the right thing for the club/team in any way at all.
    You're basing what you say on somebody else's opinion though.

    Nobody on here knows yet what's actually happening. It's just speculation.

  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,560
    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    I don't think anyone can really blame KR for not walking away without a payout. Most would do the same.

    Seems quite clear from the latest Dr Kish that KR won't be in charge this weekend. I'd happily have JJ in charge till the end of the season. He always gives us a lift when needed

    On the pitch yes. Fans will be more up for it on Saturday. Perhaps more would turn up.
    But from there, who knows how the players will respond, and how he'll perform in the manager's role. I guess we'll find out by the sounds of it. Can't be any worse than the last two matches can it?
    Wasn't it only four matches ago we were happy enough after a decent performance and a win at MKD? How time flies.
    You were happy lots more still wanted him out
    Always happy to go away, and even happier if we win. There was a good turnout at MKD. You were there?

    We hadn’t played well for quite a few matches before MKD, but even against them we were overrun fo mr about 20 mins in the second half, partly because of tactics, partly because we lack balls in midfield and have for some time. That’s down to Roland not allowing recruitment, although I expect you’ll blame Robinson. But hey, never let the facts spoil a good story lol.
    maybe instead of chasing wonder boy (Reeves) for six months his efforts would have been better spent chasing a striker. He knew what he was getting into. No sympathy at all from me, not one iota. Can't wait till the FF pisses off.

  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,032
    DPFC said:

    The reason Murray is still here is the fact he has several million at stake

    Nothing to do with it.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited March 2018

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    I don't think anyone can really blame KR for not walking away without a payout. Most would do the same.

    Seems quite clear from the latest Dr Kish that KR won't be in charge this weekend. I'd happily have JJ in charge till the end of the season. He always gives us a lift when needed

    On the pitch yes. Fans will be more up for it on Saturday. Perhaps more would turn up.
    But from there, who knows how the players will respond, and how he'll perform in the manager's role. I guess we'll find out by the sounds of it. Can't be any worse than the last two matches can it?
    Wasn't it only four matches ago we were happy enough after a decent performance and a win at MKD? How time flies.
    You were happy lots more still wanted him out
    Always happy to go away, and even happier if we win. There was a good turnout at MKD. You were there?

    We hadn’t played well for quite a few matches before MKD, but even against them we were overrun fo mr about 20 mins in the second half, partly because of tactics, partly because we lack balls in midfield and have for some time. That’s down to Roland not allowing recruitment, although I expect you’ll blame Robinson. But hey, never let the facts spoil a good story lol.
    No I didn't go the MK because I refuse to give money to a club who cheated there way into the league.
    KR winning one game in a blue moon against a team in the bottom 3 is hardly a great result.
    He supported the owners, knowing that we were a basket case of a club he's words. He's has had three transfer windows and we are no better than we were under Slade. He just makes it up as he goes along. Now it's RD fault because he's not willing to pay him out.

    I moved jobs and never expected to be paid out for jumping ship.

    Quite right. But you don’t know the facts About Robbo. Who says he’s after a payout? It’s most likely that he wants Duchâtelet to let him go without having to pay compensation for quitting his contract early. Who could blame him.

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    I don't think anyone can really blame KR for not walking away without a payout. Most would do the same.

    Seems quite clear from the latest Dr Kish that KR won't be in charge this weekend. I'd happily have JJ in charge till the end of the season. He always gives us a lift when needed

    On the pitch yes. Fans will be more up for it on Saturday. Perhaps more would turn up.
    But from there, who knows how the players will respond, and how he'll perform in the manager's role. I guess we'll find out by the sounds of it. Can't be any worse than the last two matches can it?
    Wasn't it only four matches ago we were happy enough after a decent performance and a win at MKD? How time flies.
    You were happy lots more still wanted him out
    Always happy to go away, and even happier if we win. There was a good turnout at MKD. You were there?

    We hadn’t played well for quite a few matches before MKD, but even against them we were overrun fo mr about 20 mins in the second half, partly because of tactics, partly because we lack balls in midfield and have for some time. That’s down to Roland not allowing recruitment, although I expect you’ll blame Robinson. But hey, never let the facts spoil a good story lol.
    maybe instead of chasing wonder boy (Reeves) for six months his efforts would have been better spent chasing a striker. He knew what he was getting into. No sympathy at all from me, not one iota. Can't wait till the FF pisses off.

    Well we hear all sorts of stories about who he was and wasn’t chasing. Your anger and hatred is way OTT the way I see it. Sure, he turned out not to be very good, but he tried his best under difficult circumstances, and was found wanting when the goon got tough. I don’t get the personal insults and jibes though, from grown men.

    I hope you’ll be happy to give his replacement time (with backing) to improve things, or have you become used to managers being hired and fired. It’s going to be a tough job, whoever gets it.
  • bazjonster
    bazjonster Posts: 2,875
    edited March 2018
    PopIcon said:

    I disagree - Fosu is a terrific but raw player - Bauer, Pearce and Da Silva are defenders who would get into most teams. You could say the same for JFC and Kashi and then we have promising youngsters like Konsa (being courted by Premiership clubs) and Aribo. And Amos has looked decent this season! The problem is not the players we have, but possibly the players we don't have to provide the best balance!

    Most teams? I'm assuming you mean League One teams? Load of rubbish. None of our players would get in to the Wigan or Blackburn teams (the automatic spots).

    Yeah, KR is tactically inept, but our team lacks really quality. We are fortunate to be anywhere near the play offs.
    I'd add Shrewsbury into that as well. There is a (understandable) tendency on here to sometimes over-inflate the ability of the players we have. At best, the majority are a reflection of the mediocrity of the league in which they play. Likewise, their manager also mirrors that demonstrable conclusion.

    Shrewsbury and Wigan at The Valley was men against boys for example.