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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    Scoham said:
    Slightly concerning if the new owners don't have 40m to buy him out completely
    Been my concern with the Aussie bid all along that they don’t have the money needed to run the club

    I will wait and see what the official line is before getting excited

    If someone doesn’t have 40 mil to buy us out lock stock and smoking barrels then there is serious implications on them being able to make us compete in this league let alone any other ambitious plans they may think they can achieve

    That's the original Aussie bid you're thinking of, before Muir got involved, I think.
    Pay attention Pike!
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    edited May 2018
    I expect they would rather pay the bill later if this is as this it seems a speculative bid to reach the Premier league which will then provide funds for debts to be paid and or sell the club, doesn't fill one with confidence
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    I was told months and months ago that the Aussie interest was preferred but was not the most financially beneficial choice to the club going forward of the three parties

    Player sales % seems to be an ongoing trend in club sales so is not a surprise and if it’s 10% then it’s not that big a deal and I would expect there to be a buyout clause from the new owners on this aspect of the sale

    It’s a wait and see moment we all want two shit chalets gone and that moment can’t come soon enough but it’s going to be a more toned down ambition for where and how we regain a footing in the London football scene let alone anything bigger than that over the next couple of seasons especially if we don’t go up this year



  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    has a price been agreed yet NLA?
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Yes mate
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    the 10% of player sales should only be allowed for the time he was here, anyone in the academy/signed before that saggy bollock rocked up belong to CAFC
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    JamesSeed said:

    Scoham said:
    Slightly concerning if the new owners don't have 40m to buy him out completely
    Been my concern with the Aussie bid all along that they don’t have the money needed to run the club

    I will wait and see what the official line is before getting excited

    If someone doesn’t have 40 mil to buy us out lock stock and smoking barrels then there is serious implications on them being able to make us compete in this league let alone any other ambitious plans they may think they can achieve

    That's the original Aussie bid you're thinking of, before Muir got involved, I think.
    Pay attention Pike!


    Disagree James I am not referring to the AA consortium I was told that this bid had not got the money required to take us back through the leagues

    Don’t mistake personal wealth for money available to a project
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,668
    cfgs said:

    Well hopefully this is the last time I will post this.



    Just sell the club and FUCK OFF.



    Desperately need some good news after last night so please let the takeover be confirmed soon.

    I for one will miss this eloquent prose.
    Worth a promote I reckon.
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,733

    the 10% of player sales should only be allowed for the time he was here, anyone in the academy/signed before that saggy bollock rocked up belong to CAFC

    It's ironic really. Everything Roland touched at Charlton turned into a complete disaster. The only thing he really left alone was the academy, which continued to flourish (well done the U18s!), and now the rancid old scrote wants to use it pay off all his losses, as if somehow he's responsible for all their success!

    He should really be after Daisy for that money. She's the one who wasted most of it on lavish five year contracts for useless footballers and huge fees for their agents.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330

    the 10% of player sales should only be allowed for the time he was here, anyone in the academy/signed before that saggy bollock rocked up belong to CAFC

    Not player sales, youth player sales.

    It is not a question of who developed a player, it is simply a structure to repay any outstanding monies due to Rolly. I would also expect the debt to be secured in some way. All perfectly normal and does not mean they haven’t got the money to spend, just good business.
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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    Well there goes my Valley Gold renewal
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    edited May 2018

    I was told months and months ago that the Aussie interest was preferred but was not the most financially beneficial choice to the club going forward of the three parties

    Player sales % seems to be an ongoing trend in club sales so is not a surprise and if it’s 10% then it’s not that big a deal and I would expect there to be a buyout clause from the new owners on this aspect of the sale

    It’s a wait and see moment we all want two shit chalets gone and that moment can’t come soon enough but it’s going to be a more toned down ambition for where and how we regain a footing in the London football scene let alone anything bigger than that over the next couple of seasons especially if we don’t go up this year



    So a lot more ambition than RD ever had then.

    I never expected a Wolves style takeover with multi million pound signings. Reasonable money on well thought out signings is better than wasting big money on average players. RD spent far more than we had in years and look where that's taken us.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491

    cfgs said:

    Well hopefully this is the last time I will post this.



    Just sell the club and FUCK OFF.



    Desperately need some good news after last night so please let the takeover be confirmed soon.

    I for one will miss this eloquent prose.
    Worth a promote I reckon.
    agreed

    MODS, please give @cfgs a promote.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    Just be nice to be a stable Championship club for a change, with the chance of getting into the playoffs like what Burnley did, or what we used to do in the past. I know the money is different now then even 3 years ago in that league, but top half Championship is where we need to be as table stakes.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    There are still some juicy dates available...... http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/80685/roland-departure-date-prediction/p19

    Gotta be next week though hasn't it!?
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,907

    Looks too much like Rod Stewart for my liking.

    At first glance, I thought it was Barry Manilow
    He's on here isn't he?
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    We've all been aware, for some time now, that RD wanted around £40m and that nobody was stupid enough to pay that - but the stubborn idiot is determined to get it. It seems the only way for a buyer to acquire the club is to pay a lump sum up front and then drip feed the rest to him until he gets his £40m. and the Aussies seem willing to accommodate that. That's probably why they are the preferred bid. Now the devil will be in the details of the arrangement to drip feed the balance. I would guess that he will retain certain assets and then lease them back - and that the terms of the lease will mean that the assets transfer when he has got his £40m (or whatever number). Until the details are made available (if ever) then its all speculation. It does, however, mean that the club is rid of RD's influence and his only interest is that of an investor who will 'disappear' at some point. This is probably the only way we will get to see the back of him - all good as long as the asset ownership have terms agreed for their eventual transfer to the new owners.
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,820
    JamesSeed said:

    There are still some juicy dates available...... http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/80685/roland-departure-date-prediction/p19

    Gotta be next week though hasn't it!?

    Signed today. Two weeks for EFL to approve and announced on the Saturday I reckon. That's the 26th May by my reckoning. Whose got that date?
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,167

    Looks too much like Rod Stewart for my liking.

    At first glance, I thought it was Barry Manilow
    He's on here isn't he?
    I'll pass on the message
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619

    Well there goes my Valley Gold renewal

    In some respects it’s better that we continue to produce saleable talent. Sure if the rumour is true Roland snatches a slice but the lions share goes to the club to either quickly pay off the £40 million or for investment where it sees fit.

    If anything. Our academy products could be the key to getting rid of the bad smell that Roland is.

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  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    I can't pretend to know how it works but I thought, following FIFA's ban on third party ownership, economic rights agreements regarding player transfers were a complete no-no.
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    Following last nights on pitch debacle, this off pitch news soothes the pain.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    Well, here's another day where I'm getting absolutely fuck all work done.

    "We like to sell with Roland, cos Roland's not our mate! And when he sells the Addicks, he sells it all in EIGHT! SEVEN! SIX! (so on)"
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    If Roland is refusing to exchange until this season is resolved one way or another then potentially the exchange could take place next Monday should the team not be able to turn it around. Would certainly take some of the pain out of the result.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,255
    10% of youth player sales isn't a lot, let's be honest.

    But I'd rather the full amount was paid off straight away.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    sam3110 said:

    10% of youth player sales isn't a lot, let's be honest.

    But I'd rather the full amount was paid off straight away.

    Depends, if we sold another Joe Gomez for £3.5m thats £350k into the pocket of Roland...
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,218
    edited May 2018
    Everyone is getting their knickers in a twist over one tweet which even they admit in it, may not be true.
  • JoshrewCAFC
    JoshrewCAFC Posts: 916
    Ahhh, that time of the month we all get excited and then Roland doesn't sell
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,733

    sam3110 said:

    10% of youth player sales isn't a lot, let's be honest.

    But I'd rather the full amount was paid off straight away.

    In my eyes any deal that leaves RD lurking in the back ground is a bad deal. He needs to be gone completely.
    Paying £40m cash for Charlton in its current state is a very bad deal. Roland is legally owed that money. He wants it back and won't take much of a haircut on it and this is what's the cause of all the hold up and aggravation I suspect. How to structure the deal so that Roland gets his money and the new owner's aren't crippled by the debt. Better to pay a sensible amount up front and defer the cost over time. As long as he has no financial interest in the stadium or training ground going forward, I can live with a 10% cut on academy player sales.
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